SpinningHugo wrote:RobertSnozers wrote:SpinningHugo wrote:
Did he?
What was the Tredinick quote?
Here is the Corbyn twitter one
"I believe that homeo-meds works for some ppl and that it compliments 'convential' meds. they both come from organic matter."
2007 Early Day Motion 1240
That this House welcomes the positive contribution made to the health of the nation by the NHS homeopathic hospitals; notes that some six million people use complementary treatments each year; believes that complementary medicine has the potential to offer clinically-effective and cost-effective solutions to common health problems faced by NHS patients, including chronic difficult to treat conditions such as musculoskeletal and other chronic pain, eczema, depression, anxiety and insomnia, allergy, chronic fatigue and irritable bowel syndrome; expresses concern that NHS cuts are threatening the future of these hospitals; and calls on the Government actively to support these valuable national assets.
2011 backed Early Day Motion 1820
That this House welcomes the campaign by the Homeopathy Research Institute (HRI) to place homeopathy research on the national agenda as a credible scientific field of inquiry; notes that the HRI is an innovative charity that does not promote the practice of homeopathy itself, but rather promotes and facilitates scientific research into homeopathy,of which the most controversial aspect is the use ofhighly diluted medicines; acknowledges that, in the UK, the practice of homeopathy has been part of the National Health Service (NHS) since its inception, and since thattime homeopathic medicines have been prescribable to patients; observes that the Faculty of Homeopathy Act 1950 states that the public has access to homeopathy under the NHS so long as patients demand it and doctors are trained to provide it; and calls on the Government to facilitate research into this important area to ascertain the effectiveness of homeopathy.
Both signed by Corbyn.
Homeopathy is for cranks with no judgment.
In my view.
But perhaps he just wants to widen the debate. Or something.
He also didn't say it complements regular medicine. Rather surprisingly he thinks it compliments it. I do like the scare quotes around 'conventional' and the reassurance that both come from organic mater.
Tredinnick quoted above. 'Compliments' is evidently a typo - picking this up is snide by even your standards. I could single out your reassuring organic mother, for example.
Tredinnick's position and Corbyn's are markedly different. Tredinnick is a loon who thinks astrology should be provided on the NHS and homeopathy should be an integral part of health services. He stood for the role of Chair of the Health Select Committee, and raises homeopathy any chance he gets. (He also had to pay back expenses claimed for software that diagnoses health complaints through astrology). Corbyn has signed a couple of EDMs indicating they can supplement conventional treatment (the second of which calls for support for research into homeopathy, not homeopathy itself). Trying to put them in the same bracket on this is unfair.
I don't agree with providing homeopathy on the NHS, and I was in full agreement with my employer West Kent PCT when it withdrew funding. However, I know many people who feel they benefited from homeopathy and I don't believe the viciously dismissive attitude of those wedded entirely to Western medicine (which isn't nearly as evidence-based as they'd like people to believe) is helpful.
No quote above that I can see.
I'll put my faith in 'conventional' (ie actual) science I think. I'll leave homeopathy to the cranks and extremists who reject everything mainstream. It is snakeoil, and should just be condemned.
Sadly, we are no longer in a position to laugh at the idiot Tories who believe in it.
Now Hugo, you are being silly.
A lot of people use homeopathy as a...the clue is in the word...complementary remedy.
Are all the people who use arnica cream 'rejecting everything mainstream ?
Surely not.
One of the GPs at the practice I worked at recommended homeopathic remedies for patients for a variety of reasons.
For minor ailments, where a patient is on a lot of conventional medicines and additional drugs could cause interactions, then homeopathic remedies may be a good idea, and keep the patient happy.
And even if they are 'quack' have you never read anything about the role of placebos ?
That GP was not only much loved and respected by patients and other medical staff, he had a good reputation for getting trainee GPs through their MRCGP exam and went on to be Dean of a medical postgraduate centre. Part of his success was in teaching new doctors to understand the patient rather than seeing them as a parcel of symptoms to throw drugs at.
When I left my job I was about to embark on a project for our PCT, with a pharmacist and me doing admin, list searches etc, looking at identifying problems relating to polypharmacy amongst our elderly patients.
My brain's getting a little middle aged and I can't remember offhand the number of patients admitted to hospital because of problems related to their medication.
It was quoted at a work training course, and it was high, and not anything to do with 'loons' or homeopathy but regular conventional medical treatments.
But, hey ho, you know it all Dr Hugo, keep bashing away at Corbyn why don't you ?
