The high-pitched squealing sound of a Tory apologist is as offensive as Tory Hunt's work hard will make you free noise.RogerOThornhill wrote:
Ooh, I don't know Ryan...maybe because they're coming from a cabinet member talking about millions of workers while the other is a few hotheads impacting on about half a dozen people?
have you noticed that the frothing right seem far more interested about what's going on outside the conference than about what's going on inside?
Monday 5th October 2015
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Why would I believe polls?TechnicalEphemera wrote:Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
They must be doing something right.
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The party big wigs have lost control of the process. It's the downside of having a very motivated base who win you lots of governorships and House seats.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Nobody does bat shit crazy quite like the Republican primaries.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 80806.html
Yep atheist crisps. That's where it's at.
Campaign to the base, then spend the general election trying to present yourself as a moderate before losing to the mainstream Democrat because you can't disown your statements in the primaries.
(Although La Clinton isn't a great candidate).
I'm not an expert on American politics, but the Republicans do fairly well out of the whole nonsense, even with the problem they have with the presidency.
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And well placed to do it again, with a very high number of SNP MPs returning in 2020.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
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There should be actual GDP figures for capital investment somewhere. How do they look?
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Because they are the best data out there on what people are thinking. And because they are inaccurate, but they aren't that inaccurate.citizenJA wrote:Why would I believe polls?TechnicalEphemera wrote:Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
They must be doing something right.
The results in May will be a reality check for some (although if Labour start winning councils all over the south of England I will be happy to concede my perception of reality is skewed).
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Labour are well placed already in lots of the places in England with local elections next year.
Labour are well placed already in lots of the places in England with local elections next year.
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On investment, worth recalling what the IFS said. 2009 (albeit with some investment brought forward by Darling) saw the highest level of government investment since 1975.
I'll venture that's not been surpassed, even nearly so.
I'll venture that's not been surpassed, even nearly so.
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So they should make large advances in all those councils in marginal seats then. However I rather suspect they won't. In fact I suspect in large areas they will go backwards, possibly quite markedly. However I am quite prepared to be wrong.Tubby Isaacs wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ki ... ns%2C_2016
Labour are well placed already in lots of the places in England with local elections next year.
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Goodnight, everyone.
love,
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love,
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John West tuna is not as wildlife friendly as it promised to be. Only 2% of its tuna is caught by 'pole and line', and is 'aggregated' in with the net-catch, which can (and does) catch up dolphin, shark, and turtles, amongst other sea-life. John West is now owned by a Thai company. Sorry this is behind a paywall:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environme ... 577368.eceBritain’s biggest tinned tuna supplier has secretly gone back on a promise to save dolphins, sharks and turtles from its fishing nets.
In 2011 John West Foods committed to catching at least half of its British tuna by the “pole and line” method — a sustainable technique that minimises the risk of other species becoming trapped in the nets — by the end of last year.
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Goodnight cJA. Dream sweetly. xcitizenJA wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
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And if they don't make those gains, 4.5 years from the next election, it will be the fault of ......?TechnicalEphemera wrote:So they should make large advances in all those councils in marginal seats then. However I rather suspect they won't. In fact I suspect in large areas they will go backwards, possibly quite markedly. However I am quite prepared to be wrong.Tubby Isaacs wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ki ... ns%2C_2016
Labour are well placed already in lots of the places in England with local elections next year.
And if Labour had elected ..... as leader they would be making these gains?
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They already control the council in lots of marginal seats.
Corbyn will have to do well to match where they are now.
Corbyn will have to do well to match where they are now.
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Quadruple sigh.