FlyTheNest

If he loved Britain he would have stood the whole way while singing the national anthem.

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First post-Brexit data shows UK inflation rose to 0.6% in July
ONS records rise in fuel, alcohol, hotel and restaurant prices with analysts warning that Brexit’s impact on inflation is yet to be felt

JonnyT1234 wrote:

RogerOThornhill wrote:

At directorate level, Khan retained the trusted group that won him the mayoralty: Patrick Hennessy (communications), David Bellamy (chief of staff), Jack Stenner (political strategy), Nick Bowes (policy) and Leah Kreitzman (external affairs and international relations). Insiders speak of how their familiarity and loyalty mark a break with the days of Johnson when advisers were played off against each other.

That's what leadership looks like...

A bearded man in shorts saying, "Bootiful"?

[sorry in advance]

Resolution Foundation says cut in immigration might boost pay in some low-paid sectors, but would not compensate for slowdown in growth
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... tudy-finds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill wrote:DAG does post some very amusing stuff...

There is an alternative model for our new economic arrangement with the EU – which, I am told, has a 75% chance of being negotiated successfully (that is a wholly spurious probability by the way, and should be interpreted as a statistical version of cabinet ministers crossing their fingers and toes).
This model is being developed by the newly created Department for Exiting the European Union, under David Davis, and it consists of a British reworking of Canada's EU free-trade deal, with - and this is the trickiest part - a bespoke add-on for our service sector.

An unusual £600,000 donation has been handed to 30 Labour and 15 left of centre Liberal Democrat election candidates by a former Lib Dem peer in an attempt to create an Ed Miliband-led progressive government.

yahyah wrote:Tories down to 12 point lead in ICM poll.

Tories 40% Labour 28% Kippers 14% Lib Dems 8%

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... et-beckett" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Labour split risks handing Tories unfettered power, says Margaret Beckett

pk1 wrote:So Matthew Oakeshott donates £25k to set-up this Labour Tomorrow website & is derided for it but let's not be hypocritical about things - at least try to remember how pleased we were when he gave a hefty share of £600k to Labour MPs under Ed Miliband's leadership. £25k looks like small change when compared to £600k.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... y-campaign

An unusual £600,000 donation has been handed to 30 Labour and 15 left of centre Liberal Democrat election candidates by a former Lib Dem peer in an attempt to create an Ed Miliband-led progressive government.

PorFavor wrote:It's the David Blunkett bit that I object to.

pk1 wrote:

yahyah wrote:Tories down to 12 point lead in ICM poll.

Tories 40% Labour 28% Kippers 14% Lib Dems 8%

Hallelujah, we're saved.

Oh......12 point lead for the Cons

Labour MP arrested in Spain after 'fight with ex-wife'
ITV
an hour ago

Simon Danczuk was detained by authorities in Alicante and held overnight.

http://stv.tv/news/politics/1364140-lab ... h-ex-wife/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 92446.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Putting Boris in charge of the country 'like putting the Chuckle Brothers in charge of Newsnight'

yahyah wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/t ... 682310.stm

My memory was only slightly off, six years later. I plead old age.

In his rush to defend his crush on Clegg he tried to stem criticism about the Libs joining the Tories, and defend his position he says

''what are we going to do if it turns out the coalition are more progressive than New Labour on some issues'

utopiandreams wrote:... but as JonnyT hinted they were/are more progressive than New Labour, not to mention on matters of personal liberty. Quite frankly I don't trust the PLP as things currently stand... and why should I?

tinyclanger2 wrote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 92446.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Putting Boris in charge of the country 'like putting the Chuckle Brothers in charge of Newsnight'

Britain has blown it as a serious country.

HindleA wrote:I always travel in between carriages,sometimes there are fip top seats ,even when seats are available,when travelling alone.Not uncommon to have stood when in accompanyment to allow others to sit.I didn't realise it was some kind of sacrifice or statement,it may be because I appreciate I can and that others cannot,I don't really know.I only mention because I find it deeply weird that people are expessing love for somebody on that basis.

TR'sGhost wrote:

HindleA wrote:I always travel in between carriages,sometimes there are fip top seats ,even when seats are available,when travelling alone.Not uncommon to have stood when in accompanyment to allow others to sit.I didn't realise it was some kind of sacrifice or statement,it may be because I appreciate I can and that others cannot,I don't really know.I only mention because I find it deeply weird that people are expessing love for somebody on that basis.

Ah, but a real and electable Labour politician would have travelled in a private first class compartment, not rough it with the plebs. Therefore Corbyn must go!

And to keep in the spirit of the day:

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So there

JonnyT1234 wrote:

utopiandreams wrote:... but as JonnyT hinted they were/are more progressive than New Labour, not to mention on matters of personal liberty. Quite frankly I don't trust the PLP as things currently stand... and why should I?

Point of Order. More progressive than New Labour on some things.

To demonstrate my contempt for them be aware that - given them as the only two options - I would actually vote for Tony Blair to become leader of the Labour Party again before I would ever, ever vote for the Lib Dems.

TR'sGhost wrote:

HindleA wrote:I always travel in between carriages,sometimes there are fip top seats ,even when seats are available,when travelling alone.Not uncommon to have stood when in accompanyment to allow others to sit.I didn't realise it was some kind of sacrifice or statement,it may be because I appreciate I can and that others cannot,I don't really know.I only mention because I find it deeply weird that people are expessing love for somebody on that basis.

Ah, but a real and electable Labour politician would have travelled in a private first class compartment, not rough it with the plebs. Therefore Corbyn must go!

And to keep in the spirit of the day:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

So there

Tizme1 wrote:Greetings all,

I'm not in a position to comment on local Labour party meetings to decide on supporting a leadership candidate or not. Instead I'll share with you brief details of a local Green party meeting we had last night to decide whether to endorse any of the Green Party leadership candidates. We'd already previously read the candidates pitches so watched a video of a recent hustings. After which we had a discussion. Basically it amounted to we knew who we didn't want but there was no single candidate we felt overwhelming support for. In a way I found that rather disappointing - it would be nice if one candidate was the stand out obvious choice.

Btw @Tem - have you decided/voted as yet?

He's already done that. The PLP are now fully backing Owen Smith, who is pretty much aping all of Corbyn's policies while telling us how absolutely, completely, 100%, till the day I die Labour he is. Of course, Kendall and Cooper and many in the PLP completely disagreed with Corbyn's policies before, but now they're on side, because they know most of his policies are popular.

No longer will the Labour leader be able to stand for nothing. No longer will "Tory cuts, but with a nicer face" be a good enough opposition. They'll be expected to stand with doctors, nurses, teachers, public sector workers and those on the margins of society. They'll be expected to advocate rail renationalisation, a more humane and rational foreign policy and proper investment in social housing. Corbyn has already achieved what he set out to do. If nothing else, he's now made offering some actual opposition - some actual alternative to the neoliberal consensus - a thing that all Labour leaders should aspire to.

pala wrote:Commenter on the G:

He's already done that. The PLP are now fully backing Owen Smith, who is pretty much aping all of Corbyn's policies while telling us how absolutely, completely, 100%, till the day I die Labour he is. Of course, Kendall and Cooper and many in the PLP completely disagreed with Corbyn's policies before, but now they're on side, because they know most of his policies are popular.

No longer will the Labour leader be able to stand for nothing. No longer will "Tory cuts, but with a nicer face" be a good enough opposition. They'll be expected to stand with doctors, nurses, teachers, public sector workers and those on the margins of society. They'll be expected to advocate rail renationalisation, a more humane and rational foreign policy and proper investment in social housing. Corbyn has already achieved what he set out to do. If nothing else, he's now made offering some actual opposition - some actual alternative to the neoliberal consensus - a thing that all Labour leaders should aspire to.

And people wonder why his supporters respond to the detractors with anger.

Temulkar wrote:

Tizme1 wrote:Greetings all,

I'm not in a position to comment on local Labour party meetings to decide on supporting a leadership candidate or not. Instead I'll share with you brief details of a local Green party meeting we had last night to decide whether to endorse any of the Green Party leadership candidates. We'd already previously read the candidates pitches so watched a video of a recent hustings. After which we had a discussion. Basically it amounted to we knew who we didn't want but there was no single candidate we felt overwhelming support for. In a way I found that rather disappointing - it would be nice if one candidate was the stand out obvious choice.

Btw @Tem - have you decided/voted as yet?

Yes Caroline (and JB though with serious reservations about him), and Amelia for me.

tinyclanger2 wrote:A pal of mine was once in the same carriage as Wayne Rooney travelling on the train from Manchester to London. Got a photo with him. Was quite jealous.

ohsocynical wrote:

TR'sGhost wrote:

HindleA wrote:I always travel in between carriages,sometimes there are fip top seats ,even when seats are available,when travelling alone.Not uncommon to have stood when in accompanyment to allow others to sit.I didn't realise it was some kind of sacrifice or statement,it may be because I appreciate I can and that others cannot,I don't really know.I only mention because I find it deeply weird that people are expessing love for somebody on that basis.

Ah, but a real and electable Labour politician would have travelled in a private first class compartment, not rough it with the plebs. Therefore Corbyn must go!

And to keep in the spirit of the day:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

So there

I dunno what it means, but I agree. 100%.

Temulkar wrote:

TR'sGhost wrote:

HindleA wrote:I always travel in between carriages,sometimes there are fip top seats ,even when seats are available,when travelling alone.Not uncommon to have stood when in accompanyment to allow others to sit.I didn't realise it was some kind of sacrifice or statement,it may be because I appreciate I can and that others cannot,I don't really know.I only mention because I find it deeply weird that people are expessing love for somebody on that basis.

Ah, but a real and electable Labour politician would have travelled in a private first class compartment, not rough it with the plebs. Therefore Corbyn must go!

And to keep in the spirit of the day:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

So there

I blame Cicero for that one - another sandal wearing, gardening, beardie plotting to bring down the state!

MsChin wrote:I don't doubt that you did consider it, Jonny, & I wouldn't expect any less of you, tbh, or respect you any less for posting them. It's just a personal thing for me having worked in the field, as has Phillips I believe, and a panic room is not something you just install on a whim. I just wanted to tell people here how I feel about this.

JonnyT1234 wrote:I did think before I posted those. They weren't done lightly. I think it's fair comment to mock her propensity to bemoan threats to her safety in such an overtly public fashion that increases rather than diminishes any risks to her safety. Personally, I think her 'me, me, me, look at me' actions are insulting and belittling to people who have suffered violence.

ohsocynical wrote:

JonnyT1234 wrote:I did think before I posted those. They weren't done lightly. I think it's fair comment to mock her propensity to bemoan threats to her safety in such an overtly public fashion that increases rather than diminishes any risks to her safety. Personally, I think her 'me, me, me, look at me' actions are insulting and belittling to people who have suffered violence.

I've been trying to find a letter from a Woman's support group asking her to support Corbyn. And I think I posted something similar on one of the Corbyn Thread pages.

I heard her on BBC4 today and she's very confrontational. Some of her Tweets are the same. And I believe she has blocked a great many women.

Edited to add:
And she should be getting as many women involved as she can instead of alienating them.