Wednesday 28th September 2016

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:19 pm

SH.I don't know if you are bit thick about this area.The Government,has itself stated intention to review disability benefits and services,it has in effect abolished the purpose of the WCA beyond kerching and needless harm,so it is actually essential on an opposition to seize the opportunity and provide a non misanthropic alternative.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:26 pm

HindleA wrote:SH.I don't know if you are bit thick about this area.The Government,has itself stated intention to review disability benefits and services,it has in effect abolished the purpose of the WCA beyond kerching and needless harm,so it is actually essential on an opposition to seize the opportunity and provide a non misanthropic alternative.

I need no knowledge of any area of policy at all to be able to say that Labour will not be in any position to be making any decisions about this or anything else for a very longtime indeed, if ever.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:32 pm

Encouragement to tennis player,having balls(7)

Go-nadal

My kind of humour.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:38 pm

If you are so insufficiently aware,as to political effects on Governments and their pursuance of policies of such things I cannot really help you.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:43 pm

Literally nothing can help Hugo. He is the John McTernan of these boards, telling us all how great privatisation has been when we've each had tangible real world experience of how it hasn't all been great at all. If someone had told me that the quote about private landlords had been from Hugo, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid because it sounds exactly like him.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 7:47 pm

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:01 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:Literally nothing can help Hugo. He is the John McTernan of these boards, telling us all how great privatisation has been when we've each had tangible real world experience of how it hasn't all been great at all. If someone had told me that the quote about private landlords had been from Hugo, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid because it sounds exactly like him.

Hmm. Could it be.... that...

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:01 pm

HindleA wrote:If you are so insufficiently aware,as to political effects on Governments and their pursuance of policies of such things I cannot really help you.

Well, I suppose Labour's policies on these things is marginally more interesting than that of, say, the Lib Dems. But not much.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:02 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:Literally nothing can help Hugo. He is the John McTernan of these boards, telling us all how great privatisation has been when we've each had tangible real world experience of how it hasn't all been great at all. If someone had told me that the quote about private landlords had been from Hugo, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid because it sounds exactly like him.

I've argued on here before that we should re-nationalise water, FWIIW.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:04 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
JonnyT1234 wrote:Literally nothing can help Hugo. He is the John McTernan of these boards, telling us all how great privatisation has been when we've each had tangible real world experience of how it hasn't all been great at all. If someone had told me that the quote about private landlords had been from Hugo, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid because it sounds exactly like him.
Hmm. Could it be.... that...

Let's get this straight, no. SH opposed the Iraq war, for one thing

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:06 pm

Prime Ministerial,I refer to the answer I gave earlier even though it has nothing to do with the point.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:49 pm

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/ ... 62/page-66" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
came across this by mistake. Nothing to do with me (never come across it before) but it made me nostalgic for those good old days before the Tories got in and none of us could bear the Guardian a moment longer.

We need to rally round (and yes I mean you looking coyly over the cushion) and get on with it.

Whatever "it" is.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:54 pm

Come on - hands up who are the "handout junkies"!

Seriously, why does this person bother with us here? He's obsessed.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:57 pm

Lord only knows.
But each to their own.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 8:59 pm

I guess we must still be doing something right.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:01 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tan-police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Shit Britain.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:04 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -challenge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Theresa May and the divine right of Thatcher wannabes.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:11 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:

Come on - hands up who are the "handout junkies"!

Seriously, why does this person bother with us here? He's obsessed.

Nowt as queer as folk.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:11 pm

Oh hands up definately for receiving benefits in the past,thick cowardly bastards like rustyarsehole have no fear for me.Only interacted once with him where he showed his stupidity in full glorious technicolour.My late better half could reduce such ignoramuses to sawdust with a look,but of course he sneers with anonymity.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:12 pm

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Dill the Dog. Running rings around something.
Doesn't seem to get him very far.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:14 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
HindleA wrote:SH.I don't know if you are bit thick about this area.The Government,has itself stated intention to review disability benefits and services,it has in effect abolished the purpose of the WCA beyond kerching and needless harm,so it is actually essential on an opposition to seize the opportunity and provide a non misanthropic alternative.
I need no knowledge of any area of policy at all to be able to say that Labour will not be in any position to be making any decisions about this or anything else for a very longtime indeed, if ever.

I don't watch or listen to media, I prefer to wait and read, if possible.
I've just finished reading Jeremy Corbyn's speech having seen or heard almost nothing about it prior to its being linked here earlier.

Jeremy Corbyn, Leader of the Labour Party, speech at Annual Conference in Liverpool 2016

I'm much more cheerful about Labour's electoral prospects. I appreciated the Labour leader clearly indicating a Labour government
is his goal. Get ready for it, he said. A UK GE may be closer than we think and Labour must be ready for government. The same
Tory government remains in leadership. Over six years of disaster and they're up a tree keeping country and people there too.
What does a citizen do when there's a crisis, when the political party they rely on to provide good leadership is weakened
by division? Turn up to help save it, everyone. If you want a Labour government, we'll all have to work binding Labour
together.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:16 pm

Exclusive: Shami Chakrabarti set to become shadow attorney general

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... ey-general

With the conclusion of Labour conference (here are five lessons from it), Jeremy Corbyn's attention will turn to assembling a new shadow cabinet. The leadership is expected to agree to allow MPs to elect a proportion of the frontbench. But Corbyn intends to begin appointments next week in advance of a deal.

Shami Chakrabarti, who recently became a Labour peer and chaired the party's anti-Semitism inquiry, is set to become shadow attorney general, I can reveal. The barrister and former Liberty director "wants to do more" and the "gig is a no brainer," a source said. Her slated brief has been unfilled since Karl Turner's resignation in June.

Others expected to join the shadow cabinet include Keir Starmer (who could become shadow home secretary following Andy Burnham's departure), former shadow housing minister John Healey and former shadow Wales secretary Nia Griffith. Stephen Pound is said to have turned down the post of shadow leader of the House, currently filled by 81-year-old Paul Flynn, who doubles up as shadow Wales secretary. In his conference speech, he praised Corbyn's "job creation scheme for geriatrics".

Starmer in as shadow Home Secretary?

Excellent news. Adds a lot of gravitas to the front bench and will be streets ahead of Amber Rudd.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:21 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:

Come on - hands up who are the "handout junkies"!

Seriously, why does this person bother with us here? He's obsessed.

Well, that is just silly. SpinningHugo is a Labour party supporter by his own admission. That rust Tweeter character is confused and mistaken.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:39 pm

He baits the sick for self aggrandisement,best used as an example of how not to be.I wouldn't waste energy in any more thought,CJA.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:41 pm

We are all best off ignoring that.

And AK is right. I opposed the Iraq War, and thought and think it contrary to public international law. I left Labour over Iraq (but rejoined). I am in a minority even in the 4.5%.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:41 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 34871.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sarkozy on Frexit Brexit Eurenegotiation, Wotevoh

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:43 pm

I feel a bit sick

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:47 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:I feel a bit sick

I've got some biscuits. Would like them and some tea?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:48 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tan-police
Shit Britain.

Its not happening, you know. An invention of the embittered metropolitan elite.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:49 pm

tea deffo.
But the silhouette demands i refrain from the biscuits.
sadly.
even off the vermouth.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:50 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... tan-police
Shit Britain.
Its not happening, you know. An invention of the embittered metropolitan elite.

Bleeding metropolitans, coming over here and opening ice-cream parlours.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:54 pm

Can this fiasco get any worse?

Child abuse inquiry counsel Ben Emmerson QC suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37500878

The most senior lawyer working for the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales has been suspended from duty.

The inquiry said it had "become very concerned about aspects" of Ben Emmerson QC's leadership of his team.

Mr Emmerson said he was "unable" to comment at this time.

The inquiry said press suggestions Mr Emmerson was considering resigning after raising disagreements over its future direction were untrue.

In a statement, it said: "They are not a matter on which he has advised the chair or panel."

It said he had been suspended so matters "can be properly investigated".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:56 pm

tinyclanger2

tea deffo is a new one on me,is it of superior taste?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 9:58 pm

am strictly PG tips or Yorkshire, though other non-poncy teas* are considered.

*copyright Kathy Burke room 101 on poncy hippy teas.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:03 pm

Rusty wrote: Once in a while I like to cast a little bait to ensure that Rog is still obsessively checking my Twitter account on an hourly basis. Naturally he bit, almost instantly. Keep it up Rog, there's a good lad.

Yes of course you did.

Have you really got nothing better to do with your time than to jeer at random people on the internet?

What a dick.

And no comment about Starmer?

You ought to be worried about that one - more brainpower than the Three Stooges of Brexit put together.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:04 pm

was preparing to enter the z-zone but now must put kettle on.
back in a bit.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:06 pm

Ignorant and a compulsive liar.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:13 pm

Yorkshire -excellent choice.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:17 pm

Praise for Jeremy Corbyn from that well known Trot Rabble Dog Peter Oborne

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/ac ... 1488108898" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

according-british-media-class-last-week-has-been-unmitigated-disaster-labour-lead-1488108898

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:18 pm

HindleA wrote:Yorkshire -excellent choice.

No I don't think so.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:18 pm

The only problem with Starmer is that justice presumably stays with the incumbent, who is a dimwit.

not on the Truss scale though.

I see Rudd was married to AA Gill.

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:19 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
JonnyT1234 wrote:Literally nothing can help Hugo. He is the John McTernan of these boards, telling us all how great privatisation has been when we've each had tangible real world experience of how it hasn't all been great at all. If someone had told me that the quote about private landlords had been from Hugo, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid because it sounds exactly like him.

I've argued on here before that we should re-nationalise water, FWIIW.

Nationally owned water supplies were accepted as the best and safest way to do things by all but a few die-hard laissez-faire/"taxes are theft" types from when Joseph Chamberlain convinced Birmingham council to take over the city's water to prevent cholera and other water-borne diseases in the 1880s through to when Joseph and Hayek's Centre For Policy Studies and their protege Thatcher took over the Tories in the 1970s.

Nowadays the successors to Hayek and co. argue that state regulation of water companies for public health reasons is a moral outrage and makes their free market gods cry. I guess they're of the opinion that advocating ultra-right wing economic policies is an effective personal vaccine against King Cholera.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:23 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
HindleA wrote:Yorkshire -excellent choice.
No I don't think so.

I had in mind they were Tories but can't find much evidence on line.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:27 pm

Oh,bum.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:29 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:34 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:was preparing to enter the z-zone but now must put kettle on.
back in a bit.

hindleA wrote: ignorant and compulsive liar

well I can exaggerate from time to time, but wouldn't go that far!

tea is in hand. have cut down to quarter of a teaspoon of sugar (given the silhouette)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:39 pm

There is a quarter of a teaspoon quantity?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:41 pm

Just checked teabags-my error.NON Yorkshire Tory supporting teabags

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:44 pm

wikipedia wrote:Yorkshire Tea is a black tea blend produced by The Bettys & Taylors Group. It is the third most popular tea brand in the UK, and was introduced in 1886 by Charles Edward Taylor. Founded as CE Taylor & Co., later shortened to "Taylor's", the company was purchased by rival 'Betty's Tea Rooms' which today forms The Bettys & Taylors Group. Taylor's is still based in Harrogate, Yorkshire, in the first 'Betty's' tea room. The group is still owned by the founder of Betty's' family, Fredrick Belmont and is currently chaired by Lesley Wild.[1] The company is one of the few remaining family tea and coffee merchants in the country, whilst competing with the British-owned PG Tips (Unilever) and Tetley (Tata), where Yorkshire Tea is now the third most purchased tea brand in the UK, overtaking Twinings and Typhoo

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Wed 28 Sep, 2016 10:45 pm

Rusty wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Lord only knows.
But each to their own.
Once in a while I like to cast a little bait to ensure that Rog is still obsessively checking my Twitter account on an hourly basis. Naturally he bit, almost instantly. Keep it up Rog, there's a good lad.

And yes Mr Hindle I do recall our sole interaction, where you made yourself look ridiculous by trying to argue that all First Class train travellers are nasty people. I'm pleased to see that my explanation of psychological projection has rooted itself so firmly in your mind.

So, Shami Chakrabarti to become Shadow Attorney General. She has been richly rewarded indeed for whitewashing Labour's anti-semitism problem. A new low for Corbyn and Labour, in a year of new lows.

Night all!
Rusty

Thank you for your contribution @Rusty. It really does put so much in perspective. Unfortunately I am unaware of your twitter account. I have a limited amount of time to spend on twitter so I tend to follow scientists plus evidence based accounts. Still, I'm sure it's entertaining for some people.

Greetings all btw.