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tinyclanger2 wrote:

Writing for The Telegraph, he said: “It fills me with slight unease. Why? Because it suggests either the academic world knows something the electorate doesn’t or we’re hopelessly out of touch.

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JonnyT1234 wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:GAURANG ‏@gaurangmorjaria Oct 21
#WitneyByElection
Conservative vote: 45.1%
LibD+Lab+Green: 48.7%
10th Safest Tory Seat
Maj. slashed by 20000
#LeftAlliance would've won

The Lib Dems are NOT left wing. They're no longer even centrist. We've just had 5 years of them proving that to all who could be bothered to pay any attention. So, no, an alliance involving those lying, back stabbing bastards would not have been a win for the left.

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His Labour colleague Steve Reed tweeted: “Belgian province blocks EU-Canada trade deal, any tiny EU country can do same to UK thx [thanks] to Brexit.”

Proponents of the Canada deal say the it would yield billions in added trade through tariff cuts and other measures to lower barriers to commerce. At the same time, the EU says it will keep in place the region's strong safeguards on social, environmental and labour issues. The Walloon government have concerns that the Ceta deal would undermine labour, environment and consumer standards and allow multinationals to crush local firms.

tinyclanger2 wrote:PS. There is a post by yourself on the same page thanked by:

Maeght • RobertSnozers • ohsocynical • utopiandreams • yahyah • thatchersorphan • RogerOThornhill • JustMom

Most have now gone. I miss them all.

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.


A consequence of the referendum that I'd missed.

" Then there is a lingering legacy of the coalition years. When the Conservative and Lib Dem ministers first went into government together, they colluded in the fiction that they were all one big happy family. As time went on and tensions increased, they became more open about ventilating their differences in public. This loosened the bonds of collective responsibility. They were then shattered when David Cameron permitted his cabinet to campaign on both sides of the Brexit referendum. Ministers acquired the habit of arguing with each other on TV – and in the most vituperative terms."

The crew are cutting each other’s throats on Mrs May’s leaking ship

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RogerOThornhill wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:PS. There is a post by yourself on the same page thanked by:

Maeght • RobertSnozers • ohsocynical • utopiandreams • yahyah • thatchersorphan • RogerOThornhill • JustMom

Most have now gone. I miss them all.

Hey, I'm still here! I disappeared off to Derby for a day or so but back now.

RogerOThornhill wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.


A consequence of the referendum that I'd missed.

" Then there is a lingering legacy of the coalition years. When the Conservative and Lib Dem ministers first went into government together, they colluded in the fiction that they were all one big happy family. As time went on and tensions increased, they became more open about ventilating their differences in public. This loosened the bonds of collective responsibility. They were then shattered when David Cameron permitted his cabinet to campaign on both sides of the Brexit referendum. Ministers acquired the habit of arguing with each other on TV – and in the most vituperative terms."

The crew are cutting each other’s throats on Mrs May’s leaking ship

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Yes, that was a huge mistake on Cameron's part.

Usually cabinet collective responsibility is suspended only on moral issues where the government has no view. But the government did take a position on this and anyone in the cabinet who wasn't happy about this should have been made to stand aside. The idea that you could be in the cabinet yet disagree with your own government's position was ludicrous.

StephenDolan wrote:Sees line-up. Resolves to avoid today's Peston on Sunday at all costs.

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Who voted for the intolerance poisoning the national conversation?

This weekend marks four months since the country voted to leave the European Union and there is as yet no consensus on how we progress. We are a nation stuck in an impasse, where a language and culture of intolerance are beginning to emerge. Left unchecked, this could take us to a place where neither Leave nor Remain voters intended us to go.

PorFavor wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:Sees line-up. Resolves to avoid today's Peston on Sunday at all costs.

Who's on, then?

Suzanne Evans to run for UKIP leadership

Suzanne Evans has said she is going to run for the leadership of UKIP, saying she would make the party the "common sense centre" ground of politics. (BBC news)

“What has happened here in Britain is such a great story, an untold story, in how all these foods, from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, were distilled into something else here, the British curry. And it is British – after all there is nowhere else in the world you will find onion bhaji-flavoured crisps. We are exporting mango chutney to India!”
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Why is the Government dawdling over a law that police and public agree would protect children online?

In 2014 the Government promised it would bring in a law to make sexually messaging children a crime, something the police say would be a huge help in the fight against online grooming. We are still waiting for them to act on their words

Best of luck, Theresa!
xxxxxx xxxxxx Tories would like to wish our new Prime Minister, Theresa May, the best of luck in her new position.

As we begin the Brexit negotiations with the European Union we are lucky to have a strong government united behind its leadership.

RogerOThornhill wrote:Just picked up a leaflet put through the door by the local Tories.

Best of luck, Theresa!
xxxxxx xxxxxx Tories would like to wish our new Prime Minister, Theresa May, the best of luck in her new position.

As we begin the Brexit negotiations with the European Union we are lucky to have a strong government united behind its leadership.

The comedic value is enhanced by the title of the leaflet - In Touch.

AngryAsWell wrote:The Observer view on Britain becoming mean and narrow-minded
Observer editorial

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It featured Dizzee Rascal and Rowan Atkinson, Arctic Monkeys and the London Symphonic Orchestra. It was, according to writer Jonathan Freedland, “a byword for a new approach, not only to British culture but to Britishness itself. Politicians would soon be referring to it, using it as shorthand for a new kind of patriotism that does not lament a vanished Britain but loves the country that has changed.” It was hailed abroad and Britain, it seemed, had shown itself to the world as a vibrant, open, confident, multicultural country.

That all seems like a long time ago.

AngryAsWell wrote:Why ?
CHRISTMAS ARRIVES EARLIER THAN EVER IN PENARTH
Posted on October 23, 2016

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Hot cross buns will be next in line....

Womble44 wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Why ?
CHRISTMAS ARRIVES EARLIER THAN EVER IN PENARTH
Posted on October 23, 2016

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Hot cross buns will be next in line....

It always amuses me that many of the people that complain about xmas coming too early are the same ones that believe it's been banned by PC gone mad

AngryAsWell wrote:

Womble44 wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Why ?
CHRISTMAS ARRIVES EARLIER THAN EVER IN PENARTH
Posted on October 23, 2016

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Hot cross buns will be next in line....

It always amuses me that many of the people that complain about xmas coming too early are the same ones that believe it's been banned by PC gone mad

Err - I don't like Christmas arriving so early as this (which is why I posted the link) but no way do I fall into the it's been banned by PC gone mad category.

AngryAsWell wrote:Why ?
CHRISTMAS ARRIVES EARLIER THAN EVER IN PENARTH
Posted on October 23, 2016

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Hot cross buns will be next in line....

Womble44 wrote:As long as they aren't lighting them yet, I don't mind them getting the lights up. Probably works out cheaper in some way with the contractors, and local budgets are ever shrinking. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up staying up all year if it's cheaper.

refitman wrote:

Womble44 wrote:As long as they aren't lighting them yet, I don't mind them getting the lights up. Probably works out cheaper in some way with the contractors, and local budgets are ever shrinking. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up staying up all year if it's cheaper.

Where I live, they never take them down.

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yahyah wrote:Off topic but I'd appreciate views from people who use Kindles etc.

Having previously sworn I'd never buy a digital reading device, the time is coming where I may need to dip my toes into the water and use one for a project I'm working on.

Any recommendations/warnings about which brands to avoid would be gratefully received.

There, in microcosm, you see how debate has changed in this country. Everyone’s switched sides.

Because, until quite recently, it was the socially conservative who complained that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially liberal. Now, it’s the socially liberal who complain that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially conservative.

It’s fascinating: a complete role reversal. What are the people calling for Lineker to lose his job, after all, if not hyper-sensitive “special snowflakes” who are trying to “no-platform” someone, merely because he expressed an opinion they didn’t like? Why do they find the word racist so “triggering”? Is their generation so cosseted it can’t handle a bit of criticism? Can’t Lineker even mention immigration without people jumping down his throat? Aren’t they just shutting down debate about his legitimate concerns, by taking offence and playing the victim card? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Honestly. It’s political incorrectness gone mad.

yahyah wrote:Off topic but I'd appreciate views from people who use Kindles etc.

Having previously sworn I'd never buy a digital reading device, the time is coming where I may need to dip my toes into the water and use one for a project I'm working on.

Any recommendations/warnings about which brands to avoid would be gratefully received.

AngryAsWell wrote:

yahyah wrote:Off topic but I'd appreciate views from people who use Kindles etc.

Having previously sworn I'd never buy a digital reading device, the time is coming where I may need to dip my toes into the water and use one for a project I'm working on.

Any recommendations/warnings about which brands to avoid would be gratefully received.

My grandson uses his phone to access Google Books, buy's what he wants and downloads them to the phone where he stores them to read or pops them over to his computer for later reading (after transferring back to the phone).

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