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Tubby Isaacs wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:When is Corbyn actually giving this much trailed speech, anyway? I'm looking forward to finding out how accurate the speculations of the Graun in particular were.

Isn't it more likely he'll have dropped big chunks of it, if it's different?

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yahyah wrote:Radio 4 this morning said he would say Brexit could make us better. Could not would.

"Either you do a cap or you look at the levels of disparity within organisations," he said. "Other countries have got some policies developing this and I think we need to consult with them and learn some lessons on this."

Willow904 wrote:

yahyah wrote:Radio 4 this morning said he would say Brexit could make us better. Could not would.

Unlikely, though.

At least, the sentiments that appear to have driven Brexit don't encourage me to think the UK will react to being poorer and having less influence in the world by becoming a more caring, sharing place somehow.

SpinningHugo wrote:Ben Chu always worth reading

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yahyah wrote:Can't remember what the multiple used is, but the Chair of John Lewis's re-numeration is linked to so many times what the lowest paid JL/Waitrose partner earns. Think it has always been part of the JL Constitution which rules how the company operates.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:When is Corbyn actually giving this much trailed speech, anyway? I'm looking forward to finding out how accurate the speculations of the Graun in particular were.

Isn't it more likely he'll have dropped big chunks of it, if it's different?

Well possibly, but it has been noted none of the quoted sections from it (in various places) back up the Graun claim he will say "Brexit will make us better off" in particular.

The spin both the Mirror and LabourList put on it was notably different.

citizenJA wrote:

SpinningHugo wrote: As you know, I backed Labour for decades. I'd love the Labour party that was pro-free movement a year ago to still be in favour of it. But it isn't. I'd like there to be an option to return to the government of 1997-2010. But that is not on the ballot paper.

(cJA edit)

If I demand a political party 'stand for' everything I 'stand for', I couldn't vote for any of them. Your suggestion isn't realistic.

gilsey wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

SpinningHugo wrote: As you know, I backed Labour for decades. I'd love the Labour party that was pro-free movement a year ago to still be in favour of it. But it isn't. I'd like there to be an option to return to the government of 1997-2010. But that is not on the ballot paper.

(cJA edit)

If I demand a political party 'stand for' everything I 'stand for', I couldn't vote for any of them. Your suggestion isn't realistic.

There seems to be a massive contradiction there anyway. The Blairites are the ones falling over themselves to say we should respond to 'concerns about immigration', surely Burnham, Kinnock, Reeves et al would be the people in a 'New Labour' govt now if we had one.

SH, all we know is that you say you backed labour for decades. I take it as seriously as I do those btl posters at the G who say they voted remain but now think we should get on with leaving.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: So he personally actually is "wedded to freedom of movement", and was really talking about a more regulated labour market?

Good lord.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:In fairness, SH did say the Blairites didn't represent him any more.

gilsey wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote: So he personally actually is "wedded to freedom of movement", and was really talking about a more regulated labour market?

Good lord.

That's what he's been saying all along, isn't it?
When you read or listen to him, rather than commentators.

StephenDolan wrote:

yahyah wrote:Can't remember what the multiple used is, but the Chair of John Lewis's re-numeration is linked to so many times what the lowest paid JL/Waitrose partner earns. Think it has always been part of the JL Constitution which rules how the company operates.

75 I read somewhere or that could've been Lloyd's.

StephenDolan wrote:John Mann. As predictable as ever. Still, pleasantly surprised to hear Debbie Abrahams on wato.

I agree with AK (sorry Owen Jones), there's no reason why the Tories can't be hit on multiple fronts,so long as each cuts through to the public consciousness.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Pedant alert.

Lloyd's is the insurance market thing.

Lloyds is the bank.

Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has said that a Brext deal that jeopardised trade between the UK and Germany would be “the heigh of insanity”. Taking questions in the Commons he said:
As you will know very well there is now a big operation going on by UKTI (UK Trade & Investment), by British diplomacy to point out the salient facts that German investment in this country is responsible for about 344,000 jobs here in the UK, UK investment in Germany is responsible for 222,000 jobs. It would be the height of insanity to imperil either of those sets of investments.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:

yahyah wrote:Can't remember what the multiple used is, but the Chair of John Lewis's re-numeration is linked to so many times what the lowest paid JL/Waitrose partner earns. Think it has always been part of the JL Constitution which rules how the company operates.

75 I read somewhere or that could've been Lloyd's.

Pedant alert.

Lloyd's is the insurance market thing.

Lloyds is the bank.

gilsey wrote:

Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has said that a Brext deal that jeopardised trade between the UK and Germany would be “the heigh of insanity”. Taking questions in the Commons he said:
As you will know very well there is now a big operation going on by UKTI (UK Trade & Investment), by British diplomacy to point out the salient facts that German investment in this country is responsible for about 344,000 jobs here in the UK, UK investment in Germany is responsible for 222,000 jobs. It would be the height of insanity to imperil either of those sets of investments.

gilsey wrote:

Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has said that a Brext deal that jeopardised trade between the UK and Germany would be “the heigh of insanity”. Taking questions in the Commons he said:
As you will know very well there is now a big operation going on by UKTI (UK Trade & Investment), by British diplomacy to point out the salient facts that German investment in this country is responsible for about 344,000 jobs here in the UK, UK investment in Germany is responsible for 222,000 jobs. It would be the height of insanity to imperil either of those sets of investments.

StephenDolan wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

StephenDolan wrote: 75 I read somewhere or that could've been Lloyd's.

Pedant alert.

Lloyd's is the insurance market thing.

Lloyds is the bank.

I blame SwiftKey

gilsey wrote:

Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has said that a Brext deal that jeopardised trade between the UK and Germany would be “the heigh of insanity”. Taking questions in the Commons he said:
As you will know very well there is now a big operation going on by UKTI (UK Trade & Investment), by British diplomacy to point out the salient facts that German investment in this country is responsible for about 344,000 jobs here in the UK, UK investment in Germany is responsible for 222,000 jobs. It would be the height of insanity to imperil either of those sets of investments.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:John Mann. As predictable as ever. Still, pleasantly surprised to hear Debbie Abrahams on wato.

I agree with AK (sorry Owen Jones), there's no reason why the Tories can't be hit on multiple fronts,so long as each cuts through to the public consciousness.

Trouble is he can't punch a hole in a political wet echo.

Brexit and Health are enough to be going on with, for any politician.

citizenJA wrote:

StephenDolan wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote: Pedant alert.

Lloyd's is the insurance market thing.

Lloyds is the bank.

I blame SwiftKey

I thought we were discussing John Lewis?!
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Willow904 wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:When is Corbyn actually giving this much trailed speech, anyway? I'm looking forward to finding out how accurate the speculations of the Graun in particular were.

3.30pm according to Sparrow. Politicians of all stripes are in agreement that it's important to save all their most interesting pronouncements for when most people have returned to work from lunch and stay at home mums are safely out of the way on the school run, hence 3pm/3.30pm is the preferred time for these sorts of things.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: We're negotiating with Germany, are we?

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Before I scurry off to the kitchen (baked spuds with selection of toppings for us btw) can I just commend all FTNers for the lively, informative debate here today. Great stuff

pk1 wrote:

Willow904 wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:When is Corbyn actually giving this much trailed speech, anyway? I'm looking forward to finding out how accurate the speculations of the Graun in particular were.

3.30pm according to Sparrow. Politicians of all stripes are in agreement that it's important to save all their most interesting pronouncements for when most people have returned to work from lunch and stay at home mums are safely out of the way on the school run, hence 3pm/3.30pm is the preferred time for these sorts of things.

Never knew that & I'm surprised tbh seeing as stay at home mums are more likely to have the TV on and therefore pick up snippets even if not actually watching, than mums at work.

StephenDolan wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Before I scurry off to the kitchen (baked spuds with selection of toppings for us btw) can I just commend all FTNers for the lively, informative debate here today. Great stuff

Grated Red Leicester and lime pickle on mine please.

AngryAsWell wrote:R 5 might be covering the speech live, just caught a "..and JC's speech will be starting soon"

SpinningHugo wrote:Really odd to be focusing on "rising inequality" given those ONS figures out today. Do you think they expected them to show the opposite?