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Low-skilled jobs, those that do not require a degree or equivalent, would be closed to EU nationals in line with rules restricting applications from non-EU migrants. And jobs that EU nationals could apply for would have to pay a minimum of £30,000. In certain key sectors, this threshold would be raised.

SpinningHugo wrote:Why would this matter?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/m ... c57ff2b51a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

After all, Corbyn just ignored last yea's conference resolution on Brexit. Member power only really means member power when he agrees with them.

tinyclanger2 wrote:Brexit means Brecit.

EXCL Len McCluskey tells Theresa May: I never compared myself to Nelson Mandela
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/wo ... red-myself" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

howsillyofme1 wrote:Is that the English use of the word 'interesting' ?

tinyclanger2 wrote:

howsillyofme1 wrote:Is that the English use of the word 'interesting' ?

Coincidentally I have spent some of this weekend practising saying 'interesting' in different tones which allow me to be non-committal - or even oppositional - without being perceived as sarcastic. I think I have it nailed now.

PorFavor wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:

howsillyofme1 wrote:Is that the English use of the word 'interesting' ?

Coincidentally I have spent some of this weekend practising saying 'interesting' in different tones which allow me to be non-committal - or even oppositional - without being perceived as sarcastic. I think I have it nailed now.

Interesting. (How am I doing?)

tinyclanger2 wrote:

EXCL Len McCluskey tells Theresa May: I never compared myself to Nelson Mandela
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/wo ... red-myself" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Whereas most of the rest of us have?

The future of New Zealand’s new government has been put in the hands of Winston Peters, a cantankerous, anti-immigration politician who prefers fishing to politics, after vote counting finished in the general election.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... parliament" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Corbyn says a lot of people were fed up with the way things were.

Willow904 wrote:---
Weird how all these xenophobic leave voters are perfectly happy to give all our best jobs away to Johnny foreigner. It's almost as if it's not foreigners they despise, but poor people. Poorly paid people are the bedrock of everything they take for granted about our advanced economy, though. No gratitude, some people.

Ultimately, this study demonstrates that generous welfare states are more likely to grant immigrants access to welfare benefits, and less generous welfare states are more likely to exclude immigrants from access.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10. ... 8717696441" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA wrote:I always think of Manny Shinwell when the Labour Party Conference, is on,must be etched in my nonce from an early viewing.One of the few mentioned,by my mum.



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On Twitter Andy Tarrant, an EU competition law specialist, flags up a report he wrote with Andrea Biondi, a law professor, for the Renewal: A Journal of Social Democracy saying that EU law would not stop Labour implementing its policies. He thinks Jeremy Corbyn was wrong in what he said about this on the Marr show. (See 11.01am.)

Here is their conclusion.

As it develops its position on the UK’s future relationship with the EU, the Labour party should not be held back by incorrect assumptions about the constraints imposed by single market membership on its economic policies. Neither EU state aid rules, nor other EU rules which are distinct from state aid rules but sometimes considered in the same bracket, provide any obvious barrier to the implementation in the UK of the measures contained in Labour’s 2017 election manifesto. (Politics Live, Guardian)

PorFavor wrote:

On Twitter Andy Tarrant, an EU competition law specialist, flags up a report he wrote with Andrea Biondi, a law professor, for the Renewal: A Journal of Social Democracy saying that EU law would not stop Labour implementing its policies. He thinks Jeremy Corbyn was wrong in what he said about this on the Marr show. (See 11.01am.)

Here is their conclusion.

As it develops its position on the UK’s future relationship with the EU, the Labour party should not be held back by incorrect assumptions about the constraints imposed by single market membership on its economic policies. Neither EU state aid rules, nor other EU rules which are distinct from state aid rules but sometimes considered in the same bracket, provide any obvious barrier to the implementation in the UK of the measures contained in Labour’s 2017 election manifesto. (Politics Live, Guardian)

I really wish that this issue could be put conclusively to bed - one way or another. If the above is incontrovertably true, then Jeremy Corbyn must get to grips with it and outline what his objections to the EU really are - and if he thinks that there are any changes that he would like to see made to find a way around them. As a (not unconditional) EU membership supporter, this is important to me.

citizenJA wrote:@Willow904
I share your concerns about the Labour leader over this issue

PorFavor wrote:

On Twitter Andy Tarrant, an EU competition law specialist, flags up a report he wrote with Andrea Biondi, a law professor, for the Renewal: A Journal of Social Democracy saying that EU law would not stop Labour implementing its policies. He thinks Jeremy Corbyn was wrong in what he said about this on the Marr show. (See 11.01am.)

Here is their conclusion.

As it develops its position on the UK’s future relationship with the EU, the Labour party should not be held back by incorrect assumptions about the constraints imposed by single market membership on its economic policies. Neither EU state aid rules, nor other EU rules which are distinct from state aid rules but sometimes considered in the same bracket, provide any obvious barrier to the implementation in the UK of the measures contained in Labour’s 2017 election manifesto. (Politics Live, Guardian)

I really wish that this issue could be put conclusively to bed - one way or another. If the above is incontrovertably true, then Jeremy Corbyn must get to grips with it and outline what his objections to the EU really are - and if he thinks that there are any changes that he would like to see made to find a way around them. As a (not unconditional) EU membership supporter, this is important to me.

Every time Jeremy Corbyn is interviewed about the EU and the SM he chooses to highlight perceived (often erroneous) negatives about them. It's not the behaviour of someone who supports the EU or our remaining in the single market in any meaningful way. The fact that Dennis Skinner voted for a Tory EU withdrawal bill that seriously threatens the sovereignty of Parliament reflects how even the most principled left winger can have obsessional blindspots which are very much not in the nation's best interests. Corbyn may be isolated in his views on the EU but he is also the Labour leader so what he says has influence and in respect of the EU, whether deliberately or not, that influence is being used to misinform people in a way that persuades them away from supporting a soft Brexit towards supporting a hard Brexit. It's very frustrating, to say the least.