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Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:31 pm
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:51 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Night night.
Goodnight, PorFavor

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:52 pm
by citizenJA
Theresa May’s Brexit red lines were reckless. Now she has to cross them
This week’s farcical talks exposed the flaws in her government’s approach. She is hostage to the DUP and has made promises she cannot sensibly keep

- Keir Starmer

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -cant-keep" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:55 pm
by tinyclanger2
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... eu-workers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Home Builders Federation says one in six builders are from EU and calls for permit system for skilled workers to build more homes and ease housing crisis
In practical terms is there anyone (other than a handful betting on currency etc) who doesn't want exempting from Brexit?

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:57 pm
by tinyclanger2
In London, where housing demand is at its most acute, some building skills are dominated by EU workers, with more than 70% of carpenters, 63% of demolition and groundworks workers, 61% of general labourers, 54% of plasterers, painters and decorators, 44% of bricklayers and nearly 40% of roofers hailing from other EU countries.
NHS, housing, food.
It's all a bit silly really isn't it.

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 9:58 pm
by AngryAsWell
Experimental Manchester school which cost taxpayers millions to set up faces being shut down after just three years
Another 'failed experiment' in education looks set to end in disaster

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... g-13992430" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:00 pm
by tinyclanger2
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ks-stutter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“The bottom line is that the May government is facing an impossible task,” said Sarvamaa, adding that promises made to British voters during the referendum campaign and before June’s snap election could not be kept. The government was in “an ever-worsening, deteriorating cycle,” he said. “I love Britain and I hate to see what is going on.

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:04 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I missed this from earlier.
Wes Streeting MP‏Verified account
@wesstreeting
13h13 hours ago
More
Arlene Foster should come before the House of Commons. How about midday every Wednesday to answer questions about her government's policies?
:D

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:05 pm
by AngryAsWell
Petitioning Leader of HM Opposition Jeremy Corbyn MP and 5 others
Jeremy Corbyn: Please #StopBrexit now.

https://www.change.org/p/jeremy-corbyn- ... brexit-now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:18 pm
by AngryAsWell
Exclusive: Damian Green blamed by DUP for communications breakdown which led to Brexit talks impasse

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12 ... 1WkY7TBPNc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Determined to get him any way they can - bloody remainer ! (and No, I don't "like" him, but there does seem to be concerted effort to his downfall)

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:40 pm
by SpinningHugo
A - Corbyn & Starmer: end FoM
B - McDonnell: leave SM
C - Watson: stay in SM & CU
D - Starmer: stay in SM & CU
E - Chapman: leave SM
F - Ashworth : Leave SM
G - Abbott: keep FofM
H - Gardiner: leave the CU

I suppose you could take the manifesto as definitive but that was obscure.

It is quite clever really. Labour sends out the signal from across the spectrum so that there is bound to be a Labour opinion for you.

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:54 pm
by SpinningHugo
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-06 ... icjHKCnzqD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Vicious

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 10:56 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
SpinningHugo wrote:A - Corbyn & Starmer: end FoM
B - McDonnell: leave SM
C - Watson: stay in SM & CU
D - Starmer: stay in SM & CU
E - Chapman: leave SM
F - Ashworth : Leave SM
G - Abbott: keep FofM
H - Gardiner: leave the CU

I suppose you could take the manifesto as definitive but that was obscure.

It is quite clever really. Labour sends out the signal from across the spectrum so that there is bound to be a Labour opinion for you.
All need context.

Of course.

Not to say there hasn't been any flip flopping in Labour, but your misrepresentation just firms up my desire to support what they are doing.

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:16 pm
by citizenJA
tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ks-stutter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“The bottom line is that the May government is facing an impossible task,” said Sarvamaa, adding that promises made to British voters during the referendum campaign and before June’s snap election could not be kept. The government was in “an ever-worsening, deteriorating cycle,” he said. “I love Britain and I hate to see what is going on.
Tory government makes series of bad choices
all of those choices prompted by other Tories
their own worst enemies

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:16 pm
by citizenJA
I love you
Goodnight, everyone
cJA

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:20 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:25 pm
by adam
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'Ariadne' by the lovely 'Tiny Birds'

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Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:26 pm
by HindleA
Humans are for life not just Christmas

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Tue 05 Dec, 2017 11:40 pm
by HindleA
(really) listening to the experts by experience on poverty & welfare reform Sarah Batty

https://largerfamiliespovertywelfareref ... rah-batty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Wed 06 Dec, 2017 12:26 am
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42242630" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


BBC to help students identify 'fake news'

Re: Tuesday 5th December 2017

Posted: Wed 06 Dec, 2017 12:28 am
by Sky'sGoneOut
Honestly what's the point in being active in any way in politics in this country if a tiny band of sectarian bigots can dictate the political and economic future of this entire benighted land with a single phone call? I used to be a Lib Dem (to my eternal shame) and look what they did, they tried to do it all properly and by the book and at least put forth a pretence of consensus and what did they get? Absolutely fuck all. The Tories shafted them on even their lilly livered attempt at voting reform and then they went into an electoral death spiral. Whereas this bunch of sub-hominid DUP knuckle draggers, who've already accepted a billion pound bung, currently have the support of a significant part of the English electorate simply for being arrogant intransigent bastards. It doesn't matter what their other lunatic beliefs may be, just that they stopped a perceived 'soft brexit' in its tracks. And our waste of space of a Prime Minister is so weak she allowed it to happen.

A friend of mine recently moved to Canada and I've just emailed him to ask if I can come over and live with him.