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Rossendale result now confirmed as Labour hold - new, corrected, official declaration has been issued

rebeccariots2 wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

I think he's probably mouthing to her (between clenched teeth) ---- I told you there would be far too much red in this picture.

Miriam is definitely thinking Nick looks a total tw*t, you can see it in her eyes; if you could see Sam's eyes the look of despair would be plainly visible, and I'm sure she is gripping his right arm behind his back to stop him pointing again. And, although it may be partisan, it has to be said that the Miliband's picture is utterly charming.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

I know I'm biased but isn't the pic of the Milibands just lovely?

Hard to credit that someone would look at these 3 Xmas cards and conclude that Ed Miliband is the "weird" one, isn't it? At least Clegg is trying to be witty and modern, even if he doesn't really pull it off, but the Cameron one is a bit disquieting in a way I can't quite put my finger on - something about the fact that slightly batty old dears merrily voting Tory because they always have, blissfully unaware of what this current bunch of Tories have got up to, is the reason the poor and the vulnerable may face 5 more years of the worst government we have seen in a long time. The conman and his slightly befuddled supporters, beaming from Downing Street as they plot yet more cuts for the working age poor, because they actually believe cuts only effect "other people".

George Osborne's autumn statement is a sham
http://www.uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/ta ... l?#hmqK7wN" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:JP Janson De Couet retweeted
LabourList ‏@LabourList 6m6 minutes ago
Burnham calls on Shadow Cabinet to "raise our game" and support Miliband http://labli.st/1ylYIgL" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From that link the following, the final notation in that article:

Burnham calls on Shadow Cabinet to “raise our game” and support Miliband
DECEMBER 5, 2014 10:25 AM

Update: Worth noting that this interview took place a month ago (when questions about Miliband’s leadership emerged in the press after anonymous briefing), so they should be read in that context.

(my bold)

The LabourList article is new, the interview with Burnham a month old, I post this to emphasise the Labour party & leadership issues dragged up again today are nonsense

Having written that, I concede the Labour party Shadow Cabinet don't ring me personally to discuss this sort of thing.

Latest survey from Populus - Lab 35 Con 33 UKIP 14 LibDem 9.

Another rabbit pulled from the Tory hat and still no poll lead, it would seem - how many more chances will they get?

citizenJA wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:JP Janson De Couet retweeted
LabourList ‏@LabourList 6m6 minutes ago
Burnham calls on Shadow Cabinet to "raise our game" and support Miliband http://labli.st/1ylYIgL" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From that link the following, the final notation in that article:

Burnham calls on Shadow Cabinet to “raise our game” and support Miliband
DECEMBER 5, 2014 10:25 AM

Update: Worth noting that this interview took place a month ago (when questions about Miliband’s leadership emerged in the press after anonymous briefing), so they should be read in that context.

(my bold)

The LabourList article is new, the interview with Burnham a month old, I post this to emphasise the Labour party & leadership issues dragged up again today are nonsense

Having written that, I concede the Labour party Shadow Cabinet don't ring me personally to discuss this sort of thing.

I did wonder. Actual dates don't seem to be nearly as important to journalists as they used to be.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Latest survey from Populus - Lab 35 Con 33 UKIP 14 LibDem 9.

Another rabbit pulled from the Tory hat and still no poll lead, it would seem - how many more chances will they get?

God - am already reliving this time 5 years ago. Will be on pills for me nerves by the time May 7 comes around.

This is why the cost of living crisis is relevant still MSM.
British workers suffer biggest real-wage fall of major G20 countries

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tinyclanger2 wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Latest survey from Populus - Lab 35 Con 33 UKIP 14 LibDem 9.

Another rabbit pulled from the Tory hat and still no poll lead, it would seem - how many more chances will they get?

God - am already reliving this time 5 years ago. Will be on pills for me nerves by the time May 7 comes around.

Oh, its a *lot* tenser now than it was then

I was pretty much resigned to Labour losing office before the 2010 GE, though by late 2009 I was optimistic the Tories could be denied a majority - and they were

Ed Balls ‏@edballsmp · 40s40 seconds ago
Grade 4 piano exam done - 2 week wait to see if I passed - nerve-wracking as always, hands shaky - but my best sight-reading ever..

Seemingly a man of many talents.

tinyclanger2 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:I see I have a coat slung across the back of a nearby chair - I could easily reach it if I tried.

Please no. Just use it to cover any indiscreet areas of flesh and stay around

Will take more than that. This is the only place I can read more than three lines of these days.
On flesh, my aversion to public biology does not permit me to have actual flesh. I have to exist only in hologram form to avoid offending myself.

In other words you're a shadow of your former self

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

I know I'm biased but isn't the pic of the Milibands just lovely?

I'm probably (certainly) being lazy - but where?


Good afternoon, everyone.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:There is, unusually, a by-election today (in Adur DC) so my review won't be appearing until early next week.

But, also, the above information is wrong - Rossendale is a Labour hold. The confusion has arisen because whoever compiled the official declaration got the Labour and Tory figures mixed up (the council website has the correct result, and tweets from last night confirm it was a Labour win)

(my bold)

That's yet another great big mistake involving the reporting of Labour party support, election results. Scary.

Add stupid to my last post. I'm too lazy to do it myself. Obvs.

PorFavor wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

I know I'm biased but isn't the pic of the Milibands just lovely?

I'm probably (certainly) being lazy - but where?


Good afternoon, everyone.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

Yes. The Milibands just look really weird en famille, don't they?

PorFavor wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

Yes. The Milibands just look really weird en famille, don't they?

Indeed. I mean who has Christmas without an attendant group of uniformed Chelsea Pensioners?

ohsocynical wrote:
In other words you're a shadow of your former self

Boom Boom!

@tinyclanger

Thank you! But you left it just that little too late to avoid my having to go to the enormous effort of finding it (from your last link) for myself. Not good enough!!! (Seriously - thanks again.)

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hmm not sure I'm looking forward to Anatoly's round-up today.

"UKIP Tim" won in Thurrock and

Every Ballot Box ‏@EveryBallotBox 32m32 minutes ago
UK #localgov byelection results for @RossendaleBC #longholme -
CON 505,LAB 390,UKIP 258 - CON gain from Labour, turnout 28.15%

Two things spring to mind - local factors, anything special there Paul? and the fact that Tories turn out to vote whatever. Labour voters tend to be less attentive and if it's a by or local elections, then the Tory vote frequently holds up much better than the Labour one. Look at that turnout; that tells its own tale.

I learned something new about my Linux operating system & software in the posting of the 2014 Miliband Family Merry Christmas photo posted above. I'm grateful. Please enjoy.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:There is, unusually, a by-election today (in Adur DC) so my review won't be appearing until early next week.

But, also, the above information is wrong - Rossendale is a Labour hold. The confusion has arisen because whoever compiled the official declaration got the Labour and Tory figures mixed up (the council website has the correct result, and tweets from last night confirm it was a Labour win)

Ignore my previous analysis!

Independent Living Fund judgement on Monday


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Oh dear. Even the readers of the rabid coalition-fest that is the G currently vote 90% trust BBC over Osborne.

Perhaps one of Ed Miliband's sons is plotting to run for Labour party leadership? That might distract us for a bit.

(edited to remove misleading "among")

PorFavor wrote:@tinyclanger

Thank you! But you left it just that little too late to avoid my having to go to the enormous effort of finding it (from your last link) for myself. Not good enough!!! (Seriously - thanks again.)

inadequacy of service noted. put it down to my (more) evil alter ego being in charge today.

DECLARATION OF RESULT OF POLL
Rossendale
Election of a Borough Councillor for
Longholme
on Thursday 4 December 2014
I, Helen Lockwood, being the Returning Officer at the above election, do hereby give notice that
the number of votes recorded for each Candidate at the said election is as follows:

BARNES, Gary UK Independence Party 258
CHARLTON-MOCKETT, Mischa The Conservative Party Candidate 390
MCMAHON, Ann Labour Party Candidate 505 Elected

Vacant Seats: 1
Electorate: 4107
Ballot Papers Issued: 1156
Turnout: 28.15%

And I do hereby declare that, Ann McMahon is duly elected.

http://www.rossendale.gov.uk/downloads/ ... ember_2014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 wrote:

PorFavor wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/seaso ... 05663.html

Seasons greetings from santa clegg

(note how much more normal the Camerons look compared to the Milibands)

Yes. The Milibands just look really weird en famille, don't they?

Indeed. I mean who has Christmas without an attendant group of uniformed Chelsea Pensioners?

Where'd Dave leave his kids?

citizenJA wrote:I learned something new about my Linux operating system & software in the posting of the 2014 Miliband Family Merry Christmas photo posted above. I'm grateful. Please enjoy.

Do share - I use Linux and it's a closed book to me. I just press the buttons (often the wrong ones - but I refuse to engage with "Windows").

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CMG at #1
BBC at 91 %

http://www.uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs ... .html?vp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jose Mourinho: No room for egos in my Chelsea team

tinyclanger2 wrote:

Rebecca wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote: To be completely fair to Farage on this, I'm not a massive fan of public biology and still recoil at the memory of a colleague breast-



feeding at a departmental meeting, many years ago.

Sorry to disagree with you Tiny,but as a former midwife,hv and mum(well,I'm still a mum)I find the thought of you recoiling at even the memory of a woman breastfeeding in public pretty repulsive.

Each to their own. I didn't like seeing someone breastfeeding at a meeting at work. Some women don't like watching football. So what?

Good Lord.That is the strangest comparison I have ever read.Feeding a baby /football.
Anyway,if you have time,there are a few like minded posters btl at the guardian piece on this being bullied,they would probably be pleased with some moral support.
My favourite comment goes like this(thanks bllckchps)

A loverly mum had the front
to publicly breastfeed her runt,
Farage had to scorn her
"go sit in the corner!"
What a massive bellend and a .....

Am with you

Understood!

citizenJA wrote:DECLARATION OF RESULT OF POLL
Rossendale
Election of a Borough Councillor for
Longholme
on Thursday 4 December 2014
I, Helen Lockwood, being the Returning Officer at the above election, do hereby give notice that
the number of votes recorded for each Candidate at the said election is as follows:

BARNES, Gary UK Independence Party 258
CHARLTON-MOCKETT, Mischa The Conservative Party Candidate 390
MCMAHON, Ann Labour Party Candidate 505 Elected

Vacant Seats: 1
Electorate: 4107
Ballot Papers Issued: 1156
Turnout: 28.15%

And I do hereby declare that, Ann McMahon is duly elected.

http://www.rossendale.gov.uk/downloads/ ... ember_2014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That site's interesting - Longholme used to regularly return Tory councillors until Liz McInnes got elected a mere 4 years back - and now she's an MP. Helluva rise to prominence. You might have expected the ward to go Tory again, but clearly whatever she said/did for the people of that ward, they've decided to stick with Labour. The 2010 was obviously a squeaker, so I'm guessing the new incumbent worked their arse off to retain the ward (see my first comment about voting habits and by elections). Well done Ms. McMahon, from a fellow councillor (in a neighbouring council).

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs ... .html?vp=1
Jose Mourinho: No room for egos in my Chelsea team

Certainly not! I would guess that Mourinho wouldn't stand for the competition. Incidentally, is it just me, or is he the most enormous bellend?

PorFavor wrote:

citizenJA wrote:I learned something new about my Linux operating system & software in the posting of the 2014 Miliband Family Merry Christmas photo posted above. I'm grateful. Please enjoy.

Do share - I use Linux and it's a closed book to me. I just press the buttons (often the wrong ones - but I refuse to engage with "Windows").

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Linux is basically unix tamed for the home - domesticated, I suppose you'd say. I have it on one of my PCs and were I to upgrade my no. 2 PC now, it would be to Ubuntu or similar, as Windows 7-8-9 (whatever it is now) is a memory hungry pig of an OS. The only reason I reboot my Ubuntu box is to check it'll still do it; with Win7, it's reboot every day unless you want to watch it slowly die before your eyes. Having said that, it's still better than the wretched Vista that MsRemarx has on her laptop. I've never seen a PC run so slowly, it's almost like Micro$oft didn't give a shit what rubbish they produce...

ErnstRemarx wrote:

PorFavor wrote:

citizenJA wrote:I learned something new about my Linux operating system & software in the posting of the 2014 Miliband Family Merry Christmas photo posted above. I'm grateful. Please enjoy.

Do share - I use Linux and it's a closed book to me. I just press the buttons (often the wrong ones - but I refuse to engage with "Windows").

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Linux is basically unix tamed for the home - domesticated, I suppose you'd say. I have it on one of my PCs and were I to upgrade my no. 2 PC now, it would be to Ubuntu or similar, as Windows 7-8-9 (whatever it is now) is a memory hungry pig of an OS. The only reason I reboot my Ubuntu box is to check it'll still do it; with Win7, it's reboot every day unless you want to watch it slowly die before your eyes. Having said that, it's still better than the wretched Vista that MsRemarx has on her laptop. I've never seen a PC run so slowly, it's almost like Micro$oft didn't give a shit what rubbish they produce...

I use Linux for advanced networking (production scale hardware accelerated 10G stuff). Why anybody would use it for a home computer is beyond me (unless they are an IT or networking hobbyist).

Windows 7 runs brilliantly on my home machine and it is 5 years old. For the laptop go to Win 7 and get some more RAM.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/why ... go-4745427" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

piece from the Mirror on CMG
another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name. Mirror piece starts with the not at all sanctiommonious:

Participants of the hashtag campaign #CameronMustGo have bemoaned the lack of press coverage - alleging censorship and a media blackout. This sounds dreadful. So we thought we’d look into it.

But we found that what they seem to ignore is that press coverage also implies a certain level of scrutiny.

Of course it does.

It still, IMO, goes no way at all to explaining the obvious media blackout.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

PorFavor wrote: Do share - I use Linux and it's a closed book to me. I just press the buttons (often the wrong ones - but I refuse to engage with "Windows").

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Linux is basically unix tamed for the home - domesticated, I suppose you'd say. I have it on one of my PCs and were I to upgrade my no. 2 PC now, it would be to Ubuntu or similar, as Windows 7-8-9 (whatever it is now) is a memory hungry pig of an OS. The only reason I reboot my Ubuntu box is to check it'll still do it; with Win7, it's reboot every day unless you want to watch it slowly die before your eyes. Having said that, it's still better than the wretched Vista that MsRemarx has on her laptop. I've never seen a PC run so slowly, it's almost like Micro$oft didn't give a shit what rubbish they produce...

I use Linux for advanced networking (production scale hardware accelerated 10G stuff). Why anybody would use it for a home computer is beyond me (unless they are an IT or networking hobbyist).

Windows 7 runs brilliantly on my home machine and it is 5 years old. For the laptop go to Win 7 and get some more RAM.

Well, TE, one good reason is the paucity of performance problems you'll get with linux. The one running Ubuntu is about 10 years old and has 1GB of RAM - and it still fires up and runs quicker than the Win7 box with four times as much RAM and a far faster (and younger) processor. Another that springs to mind is freedom from malware/trojans/etc. Granted, it's not immunity, but it's a lot easier to handle it than in Win7. Memory seems to be released back more efficiently than Win7, and hence little need to reboot.

I'll certainly acknowledge that Windows has improved considerably in the last 10 years, it would have perished had it not. But unix was always reliable and solid and all that was missing was the GUI shop window for ordinary people. It now has that, and what's more it costs peanuts compared to a Windows licence.

I'm pretty agnostic about the the issues overall, as both work in their own ways, it's just that I can rely on linux in the same way I can't Windows. The only downsides I can see are (a) your favourite Windows app may well not run on linux and (b) if it does go tits up, then you're in a whole new world of pain, with very few people who can directly help out.

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/why ... go-4745427

piece from the Mirror on CMG
another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name. Mirror piece starts with the not at all sanctiommonious:

Participants of the hashtag campaign #CameronMustGo have bemoaned the lack of press coverage - alleging censorship and a media blackout. This sounds dreadful. So we thought we’d look into it.

But we found that what they seem to ignore is that press coverage also implies a certain level of scrutiny.

Of course it does.

It still, IMO, goes no way at all to explaining the obvious media blackout.

another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name

And the remaining 204% of us think that perhaps someone should have proof read/sub edited the stats prior to publication...

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/why ... go-4745427

piece from the Mirror on CMG
another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name. Mirror piece starts with the not at all sanctiommonious:

Participants of the hashtag campaign #CameronMustGo have bemoaned the lack of press coverage - alleging censorship and a media blackout. This sounds dreadful. So we thought we’d look into it.

But we found that what they seem to ignore is that press coverage also implies a certain level of scrutiny.

Of course it does.

It still, IMO, goes no way at all to explaining the obvious media blackout.

And it doesn't explain why BBC #trending failed to give it prominence.

Meant to add.

And if they want to know why so many people Tweeted #CameronMustGo, there's a pretty wide range of reasons I'd say.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs ... .html?vp=1
Jose Mourinho: No room for egos in my Chelsea team

Certainly not! I would guess that Mourinho wouldn't stand for the competition. Incidentally, is it just me, or is he the most enormous bellend?

It is just you!

Confession time. I've been a Chelsea fan from childhood, their training ground used to be in Mitcham, where I grew up, so we always saw the likes of Osgood, Harris, Bonetti, Dave Sexton etc around. I like Mourinho, he knows how to play the game and I don't just mean on the pitch, but the way he manipulates the media; by acting the bellend (and it is largely an act) the press concentrate on him and leaves the team alone to get on with playing - that nonsense with John Terry few years back * would not have happened with Mourinho at the help.

Doubt that will be a popular opinion, but we're six points clear so do I look worried?

* Don't get me wrong, I think Terry is a knuckle dragging thug, but racist?

ErnstRemarx wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/why ... go-4745427

piece from the Mirror on CMG
another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name. Mirror piece starts with the not at all sanctiommonious:

Participants of the hashtag campaign #CameronMustGo have bemoaned the lack of press coverage - alleging censorship and a media blackout. This sounds dreadful. So we thought we’d look into it.

But we found that what they seem to ignore is that press coverage also implies a certain level of scrutiny.

Of course it does.

It still, IMO, goes no way at all to explaining the obvious media blackout.

another poll at the end 63% think CMG is spreading awareness; 38% think it's giving the left a bad name

And the remaining 204% of us think that perhaps someone should have proof read/sub edited the stats prior to publication...

Poll now at 68 (spreading awareness) 32 (giving left a bad name).

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

PorFavor wrote: Do share - I use Linux and it's a closed book to me. I just press the buttons (often the wrong ones - but I refuse to engage with "Windows").

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Linux is basically unix tamed for the home - domesticated, I suppose you'd say. I have it on one of my PCs and were I to upgrade my no. 2 PC now, it would be to Ubuntu or similar, as Windows 7-8-9 (whatever it is now) is a memory hungry pig of an OS. The only reason I reboot my Ubuntu box is to check it'll still do it; with Win7, it's reboot every day unless you want to watch it slowly die before your eyes. Having said that, it's still better than the wretched Vista that MsRemarx has on her laptop. I've never seen a PC run so slowly, it's almost like Micro$oft didn't give a shit what rubbish they produce...

I use Linux for advanced networking (production scale hardware accelerated 10G stuff). Why anybody would use it for a home computer is beyond me (unless they are an IT or networking hobbyist).

Windows 7 runs brilliantly on my home machine and it is 5 years old. For the laptop go to Win 7 and get some more RAM.

I run Kubuntu on my desktop and Win7 on my laptop. Kubuntu is a bit more windows-esque in its presentation than Ubuntu (IMHO) and I have been using it for years. Both 'main' versions of Ubuntu are now pretty user friendly and you only have to resort to command line in extreme circumstances.

Law to ban wild animals in UK circuses being blocked by three Tory MPs
UK lags behind Bolivia and Bosnia in banning the use of wild animals, such as lions, tigers, zebras and camels, in travelling circuses
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... e-tory-mps
A new law to ban the use of wild animals in circuses is being repeatedly blocked by a trio of Tory backbenchers, despite the personal support of David Cameron, the government, Labour and over 90% of the British public.

The bill was blocked for the seventh time on Friday afternoon, a move its supporters called a “travesty” and an “outrage”. Dozens of lions, tigers, zebras and camels are still used in travelling circuses and in 2012 the government pledged to outlaw what Cameron called the “outdated practice”. But despite publishing the draft law in 2013, it has since failed to pass it....

And if you want to know who these barstewards are .... Rosindell, Chope and Davies.

I don't have sufficiently nasty words to describe them.