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Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:23 pm
by mbc1955
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:"A unique unprecedented coalition of people who would like to break up our country. The only people who can stop them are us, the people in this room."

Who said that?
Judge Dredd?

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:25 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
mbc1955 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:"A unique unprecedented coalition of people who would like to break up our country. The only people who can stop them are us, the people in this room."

Who said that?
Judge Dredd?
Close ;-)

Actually not very close...

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:33 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Nope not Judge Dredd, not Ian Paisley - keep guessing...

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:33 pm
by Hobiejoe
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
mbc1955 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:"A unique unprecedented coalition of people who would like to break up our country. The only people who can stop them are us, the people in this room."

Who said that?
Judge Dredd?
Close ;-)

Actually not very close...
Ian Paisley at an Ulster Unionist seance?

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:33 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Hey where'd you go Hobie Joe?

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:33 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Oh dear...

http://www.ukipcornwall.org/ukip-readmore2.php#welfare
UKIP will continue it's support for Grammar schools.
:D

Fat lot of good a grammar education did them!

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:35 pm
by Hobiejoe
Sorry, got a little PF'd in my posting.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:36 pm
by mbc1955
Ok, if it's not Judge Dredd, it's got to be Abelard Snazz, the man with the two-storey brain!

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:36 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Hobiejoe wrote:Sorry, got a little PF'd in my posting.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:40 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
So in fact it was David Cameron today in Scotland referring to the SNP and Labour.

For me it has a sinister, fascist tone. I really don't like it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31551626" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:41 pm
by gilsey
rebeccariots2 wrote:I was on the doorstep in Fishguard this morning. A lady answered the door to me and seemed disappointed I was canvassing for Labour. Then we got talking - and boy was she angry. She's a woman of a certain age and really pissed off with the Condems for their pension changes - she's losing out big time. After telling me she will be voting Labour she said she's waiting, hoping, for a Conservative canvasser so she can let rip at them. Would love to be there when she does - she has a list of their policies that's she's furious about.
Before I went to bed last night I read in our local paper that our new Tory candidate had been canvassing in the next valley - God knows why, they're all tories anyway. I didn't sleep very well so spent the waking time imagining what I'd say to him if he came here, where would I start?

Mentioned this to mr gilsey who said, start with the pothole at the end of the drive. :roll:


Funnily enough I didn't think of complaining about the pension changes, I did that at the time, wrote to Hague twice and the local paper.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 10:46 pm
by HindleA
@PaulfromYorkshire


Fascistic indeed.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:02 pm
by Hobiejoe
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hey where'd you go Hobie Joe?
Literally? Norway.

Brought the sprogs here for snow, skiing, huskies and family time. Damn fine country until you buy a beer in a bar.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:07 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Hobiejoe wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hey where'd you go Hobie Joe?
Literally? Norway.

Brought the sprogs here for snow, skiing, huskies and family time. Damn fine country until you buy a beer in a bar.
Wow. Sounds great. Yes understand the beer problem from time spent in Sweden ;-)

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:18 pm
by Hobiejoe
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hey where'd you go Hobie Joe?
Literally? Norway.

Brought the sprogs here for snow, skiing, huskies and family time. Damn fine country until you buy a beer in a bar.
Wow. Sounds great. Yes understand the beer problem from time spent in Sweden ;-)
The good news is that you can get beer at upto 4.7% in shops and supermarkets cf 2.8% in Sweden, albeit at twice UK offie prices. And where the Swedes have Systembologet, similar in price to the UK, Norway has Vinmonopolet, about 50% more expensive. No wonder the hand luggage of our fellow travellers chinked so much.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:20 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
RobertSnozers wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:"A unique unprecedented coalition of people who would like to break up our country. The only people who can stop them are us, the people in this room."

Who said that?
John Connor
Well exactly.

Can you believe we have a Prime Minister who could utter such bilge?

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:23 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Cameron does have a point about the SNP. I think Miliband needs to rule out a Coalition with them, though not a confidence and supply arrangement with them or anyone else.

Someone who only 11% can even vote for being in government for somewhere they want to leave is pretty mindboggling in UK terms.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:25 pm
by pk1
@ RR2, yahyah & Lady C

Thank you ladies. He's home with an almighty great wound because his tumour had dug into the gluteal muscle & was significantly bigger than any of us had expected. Whether it is malignant or not, we won't know until he goes for the follow up next Friday. In the meantime it's antibiotics & pain relief - in addition to being pampered, obviously ;)

Hope Musica is as comfortable as she can be Rebecca

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:28 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Cameron does have a point about the SNP. I think Miliband needs to rule out a Coalition with them, though not a confidence and supply arrangement with them or anyone else.

Someone who only 11% can even vote for being in government for somewhere they want to leave is pretty mindboggling in UK terms.
Hasn't Sturgeon already ruled coalition out?

The fact that Cameron's so scared of it is of real interest to me.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:30 pm
by rebeccariots2
pk1 wrote:@ RR2, yahyah & Lady C

Thank you ladies. He's home with an almighty great wound because his tumour had dug into the gluteal muscle & was significantly bigger than any of us had expected. Whether it is malignant or not, we won't know until he goes for the follow up next Friday. In the meantime it's antibiotics & pain relief - in addition to being pampered, obviously ;)

Hope Musica is as comfortable as she can be Rebecca
Likewise your boy pk. Glad he's home. It's touch and go with Musica I'm afraid - we'll see what the morning brings.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:32 pm
by rebeccariots2
an Dunt retweeted
Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 15m15 minutes ago
They've stuck it on P1. Uncontainable rage from friends at the Telegraph tonight. Dam is going to break.
That Telegraph article is causing a storm.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:35 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Cameron does have a point about the SNP. I think Miliband needs to rule out a Coalition with them, though not a confidence and supply arrangement with them or anyone else.

Someone who only 11% can even vote for being in government for somewhere they want to leave is pretty mindboggling in UK terms.
Hasn't Sturgeon already ruled coalition out?

The fact that Cameron's so scared of it is of real interest to me.
He's not scared. It's the best thing the Tories (becoming an English nationalist party) can have. Would help the Tories out of the EU too.

Miliband should rule out Coalition as well as Sturgeon.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:37 pm
by RogerOThornhill
rebeccariots2 wrote:
an Dunt retweeted
Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 15m15 minutes ago
They've stuck it on P1. Uncontainable rage from friends at the Telegraph tonight. Dam is going to break.
That Telegraph article is causing a storm.
It's been noted that both the article about The guardian indulging in blurred lines between advertising and content, and the one about the Times suicides have "By Telegraph Reporter" as a byline.

They're lashing out blindly like a cornered animal right now.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:42 pm
by TechnicalEphemera
As we are doing the mighty Russian air force as an existential threat bollocks.....

This is from 2010 - source Wikipedia - source MoD

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Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:42 pm
by HindleA
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 60745.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


People in need at risk of losing tax credits after being wrongly accused of cheating

Thousands unfairly hounded over tax credits by US services company working for HMRC

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:45 pm
by TechnicalEphemera
RogerOThornhill wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
an Dunt retweeted
Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 15m15 minutes ago
They've stuck it on P1. Uncontainable rage from friends at the Telegraph tonight. Dam is going to break.
That Telegraph article is causing a storm.
It's been noted that both the article about The guardian indulging in blurred lines between advertising and content, and the one about the Times suicides have "By Telegraph Reporter" as a byline.

They're lashing out blindly like a cornered animal right now.
I don't get the Telegraph thing, are they reporting news or just making shit up? Why is everybody so pissed off (other than the fact it is a clear case of fattening a squirrel).

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:50 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
DT probably think this sort of thing is "political correctness".

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Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Fri 20 Feb, 2015 11:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Private sector jobs miracle.

Northants County Council outsource everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-31544256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:02 am
by HindleA
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60220.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government accused of spending taxpayers' money on banners featuring Tory election slogans

The Government banners bear the Conservative slogan 'long term economic plan'

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:02 am
by rebeccariots2
HindleA wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 60745.html


People in need at risk of losing tax credits after being wrongly accused of cheating

Thousands unfairly hounded over tax credits by US services company working for HMRC
That is yet again an appalling situation for thousands of people. I hope a huge stink is made about it in the run up to the election. Tax credits are claimed by an awful lot of working people ... it surely won't go unnoticed?

When we got to the informal 'audience with Stephen Crabb MP' yesterday evening it had already started and there was a very vocal table of people giving him a hard time about the pitiful pay, zero hours contracts, nil security and general lack of jobs locally. He tried to use the general spin line of them having created .... loads of jobs and 80% of them are full time and people are always better off in work. It simply didn't wash with the audience who told him back the reality - a care worker told him how much she earned an hour - £7 - and said that she is taxed not only on the little she earns but 80% of her widows pension is also taken away in tax. She said she is really struggling. Someone else told him straight that there were NO jobs at all the last time they went into the Cardigan job centre - that's right NONE - and there was one computer (yup, 1 computer) and all the telephones have now been removed. The job centre website he has to use (presume this is universal jobmatch) is worse than useless. He puts in jobs up to 15 miles - because that's about the max distance you could get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time around here - and he said it was extraordinary how the website decides that 15 miles extends to the other side of Swansea - a lot of very cynical laughter in the room. The jobs he sees on there are all commission only, Kleeneze, zero hours or minimum wage sessional or part time. Crabb claimed he didn't see or hear about this reality - he heard better, more positive news. Just about everyone in the audience expressed their disgust with how the majority of people were being treated by this government in comparison with bankers and big earning tax dodgers. He should know a bit more about the situation on the ground now.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:04 am
by 51A
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Private sector jobs miracle.

Northants County Council outsource everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-31544256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well it will sure as heck reduce the pensions bill. Astoundingly awful.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:07 am
by thatchersorphan
GetYou wrote:Meanwhile, in persecutionville...

https://speye.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/ ... se-victim/

Domestic Violence sanctuary rooms are now counted as bedrooms for the purposes of the bedroom tax (following a judicial review). Yeah, have that, spongers!
Not only that - if they move to get away from the bedroom tax - they will likely not get a safe room, or any extra safety features in the new smaller property
Quote : “She won’t have a steel door, she won’t have bulletproof glass, a fireproof letter box, a special link to 999”. When these features are installed, “you are told very clearly it’s a one off. You only get those adaptations once”.

Source: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... panic-room" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:07 am
by GetYou
HindleA wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60220.html
The Conservative-controlled council claimed work to implement the "Next Generation Model" would see it explore how services can become "separate stand-alone organisations free from statutory restraints".
Yeah, those statutory restraints. They're far too legal for my liking.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:13 am
by RogerOThornhill
51A wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Private sector jobs miracle.

Northants County Council outsource everything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-31544256" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well it will sure as heck reduce the pensions bill. Astoundingly awful.
And if those "mutuals" get taken over by the private sector *shrug* well, shit happens...

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:16 am
by 51A
pk1 wrote:@ RR2, yahyah & Lady C

Thank you ladies. He's home with an almighty great wound because his tumour had dug into the gluteal muscle & was significantly bigger than any of us had expected. Whether it is malignant or not, we won't know until he goes for the follow up next Friday. In the meantime it's antibiotics & pain relief - in addition to being pampered, obviously ;)

Hope Musica is as comfortable as she can be Rebecca
If it's of any help, I had a tumour on my wrist a few years ago, that too was deeper than they thought it was, but benign and apparently the benign ones often go deeper un-noticed because they don't attach to any significant organ or blood vessel so don't spread. So that could be good news. I hope it is for you.

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:17 am
by Tubby Isaacs
alan rusbridger ‏@arusbridger 13m13 minutes ago
.@MMacLennanTMG come on, Murdoch. If you guys can take down HSBC stories you can take down this, too

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:23 am
by thatchersorphan
“Do tax evaders make your blood boil?” Jon Snow interviews Iain Duncan Smith | Channel 4 News " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; IDS told mandatory treatment is illegal and unworkable, so says its just a 'review to look at it'

Re: Friday 20th February 2015

Posted: Sat 21 Feb, 2015 12:28 am
by RogerOThornhill
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
alan rusbridger ‏@arusbridger 13m13 minutes ago
.@MMacLennanTMG come on, Murdoch. If you guys can take down HSBC stories you can take down this, too
Alan rusbridger retweeted
Chris Cook @xtophercook · 7m 7 minutes ago
I just had a text from a Telegraph reporter in which only one word is not a breach of the BBC style guide. It was "Holy".


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