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ohsocynical wrote:Stupid cow presenter on BBC saying it's all about the economy. It bloody well isn't it's all about the NHS.

Oh God I have to stop swearing!!!!

There was a bit of vox pop from Dudley on WatO today, and apparently the good burghers of Dudley also identified the NHS as the main issue at this election. Which, I presume will lead D "F" Hodges to pen an article which concludes and explains the exact opposite and intone funereally that this, like everything else, is bad news, etc, etc.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

pk1 wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
A bit of afternoon viewing for you, in the form of Labour's latest PPB (to be broadcast tomorrow I believe); simple, straightforward and just downright classy.

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Nice. I've embedded it so it's easy for everybody to watch:

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That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Both he and Tennant are avowed socialists and long time supporters of the Labour Party. It shouldn't matter, obviously, but two actors of their stature throwing their weight behind Labour will sway some, certainly add a little glamour to the image.

pk1 wrote:Ashcroft National Poll, 27-29 March: CON 36%, LAB 34%, LDEM 6%, UKIP 10%, GRN 7%

Doesn't that give the Greens more than they've been showing in other recent polls ?
Was just thinking at the weekend that the Green surge seemed to have fallen flat.

Lord Ashcroft poll. 2% behind, I'll take that, given his usual figures. His spin always raises a smile. This weeks favourite nugget :-

' Labour’s poster warning of future Conservative austerity, which declares “Next time they’ll cut to the bone – the NHS can’t afford the Tory cuts plan”, was best received by those already leaning towards Labour, or at least away from the Conservatives. '

So that'd be approximately 2/3 of the population. But move along, nothing to see

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

pk1 wrote: Nice. I've embedded it so it's easy for everybody to watch:

[youtube]tj_3g6-zSXY[/youtube]

That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Both he and Tennant are avowed socialists and long time supporters of the Labour Party. It shouldn't matter, obviously, but two actors of their stature throwing their weight behind Labour will sway some, certainly add a little glamour to the image.

Well, I knew about Tennant, but not Freeman - thanks for that. I (obvs) know about Eddie Izzard (was at a do in Manchester a few years back where he fetched up - nice guy) and there's also Bill Bailey who's fiercely left wing and pro Labour. I wonder how many more slebs there are? Anyone got more examples? I have suspicions about a few slebs, but no proof positive.

Sky has been at it again with their musical montage dept

No idea why it won't embed so sorry, you will need to click the link:

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Is anybody else having trouble with the site loading again? I have to wait ages between refreshing the page & it finally loading.

Ashcroft's figures are presumably "100% certain to vote" as usual - this normally benefits the Tories.

This election will be as much about turnout as anything.

ohsocynical wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

pk1 wrote: Nice. I've embedded it so it's easy for everybody to watch:

[youtube]tj_3g6-zSXY[/youtube]

That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Not meaning to offend, but it would have been enough for me without the Scottish voice at the end.

But that's no ordinary Scottish voice OhSo, that's David Tennant, a much loved Dr Who.
It may attract a few more votes for Labour from younger voters.

I recently commented on a Grand Designs broadcast where I expressed derision for no mention of the spontaneous reaction of the local community. I suppose I should clarify that I dtdn't intend to cast aspersions. I neither know the couple concerned nor whether or not the programme makers knew of any such contribution. Just saying because there are plenty of posts where I do expect some reading between the lines. There are others where I have no such qualms but then I'm not known for my tact.

Look no typos, but then I'm using On Screen Keyboard before watching Coalition as recommended by LadyCentauria. Now where is my wireless keyboard and what did I say about displacement activities?

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ashcroft's figures are presumably "100% certain to vote" as usual - this normally benefits the Tories.

This election will be as much about turnout as anything.

That's the wierd thing. Labour's definitely will vote % is higher than Conservatives (68 to 62). Shy Tories? Usually trotted out. If this is the case I do wonder why there's no equivalent shy Scottish Labour voters. Hmm.

Welfare-to-work company employees to be sentenced for fraudulent claims

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What a surprise. Isolated incident, obviously....

yahyah wrote:deleted because glitch on site caused double post

If you ever want duplicates removing, just ask one of your 'friendly' mods and we can do it easily for you. You're welcome.

PorFavor wrote:BBC News24 -

"David Cameron held his final audience with the Queen"?? I bet he'll have that on a permanent loop . . .

I wonder if she 'purred' into his ear?

Thanks Ernst.

There used to be a way to delete them yourself but it seems to have have gone [used to show when you edited] and the delete icon wouldn't work as it said the post had been replied to.
If that makes sense.

pk1 wrote:Sky has been at it again with their musical montage dept

No idea why it won't embed so sorry, you will need to click the link:

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Is anybody else having trouble with the site loading again? I have to wait ages between refreshing the page & it finally loading.

Yes, I've had difficulty too.

yahyah wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote: That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Not meaning to offend, but it would have been enough for me without the Scottish voice at the end.

But that's no ordinary Scottish voice OhSo, that's David Tennant, a much loved Dr Who.
It may attract a few more votes for Labour from younger voters.

I thought it might be. You know you've reached your dotage when stuff like that fails to move you in any direction

ErnstRemarx wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote: That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Both he and Tennant are avowed socialists and long time supporters of the Labour Party. It shouldn't matter, obviously, but two actors of their stature throwing their weight behind Labour will sway some, certainly add a little glamour to the image.

Well, I knew about Tennant, but not Freeman - thanks for that. I (obvs) know about Eddie Izzard (was at a do in Manchester a few years back where he fetched up - nice guy) and there's also Bill Bailey who's fiercely left wing and pro Labour. I wonder how many more slebs there are? Anyone got more examples? I have suspicions about a few slebs, but no proof positive.

Maureen Lipman was pro Labour, but then earlier this year professed she might even leave the country because of the stance Ed was taking over Israel and Palestine.

Ed's a natural in that Sky music video.

He's a loss to the boy band world.

@ pk1

Yes - the site's playing up a bit for me, too.

What is it with these celebrities and rich folks threatening to leave the country if things don't go as they want.
They must have the most enormous egos.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote: That's very good, and quite subtle in its own way. Very nice to see the 'choice of values' line - that'll resonate, I think. Is Martin Freeman a lefty then? News to me.

Both he and Tennant are avowed socialists and long time supporters of the Labour Party. It shouldn't matter, obviously, but two actors of their stature throwing their weight behind Labour will sway some, certainly add a little glamour to the image.

Well, I knew about Tennant, but not Freeman - thanks for that. I (obvs) know about Eddie Izzard (was at a do in Manchester a few years back where he fetched up - nice guy) and there's also Bill Bailey who's fiercely left wing and pro Labour. I wonder how many more slebs there are? Anyone got more examples? I have suspicions about a few slebs, but no proof positive.

Well Martin Freeman appeared in the first episode of Black Books which starred Dylan Moran and Bill Bailey both of whom (along with Freeman) have appeared in various Edgar Wright films alongside Simon Pegg. I only mention this because I went to the same school as Edgar Wright. He would have been a couple of years below me so I don't remember him unfortunately, but it was a just a regular comprehensive which just shows you don't have to attend a posh school to do well (it just helps).

Just sometimes I enjoy the Daily Mail

Nick Clegg's election campaign went from the sublime to the ridiculous today, as he travelled from a meeting with the Queen to a hedgehog sanctuary in Solihull.
The Lib Dem leader was introduced to Humpty, a hedgehog with a head injury which means he keeps walking round in circles.
Mr Clegg was told the animals have a lifespan of just five years, which he might be able to relate to as his party face the prospect of being booted out of government for the first time since 2010.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Vt3RAsKe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

My other half's just transferred another batch of vinyl to cd.

Anyone else here a Fairport fan ?
Just playing Mattie Groves from the Sydney live recording. What a fantastic track, what a loss Sandy was.

StephenDolan wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ashcroft's figures are presumably "100% certain to vote" as usual - this normally benefits the Tories.

This election will be as much about turnout as anything.

That's the wierd thing. Labour's definitely will vote % is higher than Conservatives (68 to 62). Shy Tories? Usually trotted out. If this is the case I do wonder why there's no equivalent shy Scottish Labour voters. Hmm.

That's funny, I almost posted the same comment this morning. We know that polling companies have weighted their polls to take account of 'Shy Tories' since Thatcher but is it still relevant? Can any of us say we've met a shy Tory lately? If the last 5 years have done anything it's shown that the right-wing are certainly not shy anymore.

But as you say, what about the shy Labour voter? Labour have been blamed for everything, some of it deserved and some of it total made-up cobblers, and they've been lambasted continuously by the media and by left and right-wing parties for more than 5 years for it. Isn't it probable that the same effect now exists for Labour but that the polling companies don't correct for it in their calculations because there hasn't been a GE to prove it exists?

Perhaps it's just grasping at straws but I think that the polling companies are working on methodologies which include certain things that are no longer relevant to the multi-party UK we appear to live in now. I think they know this but they don't have any baseline from which to properly adjust their calculations.

For Ephie, hope it doesn't put you off your tea.

ohsocynical wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote: Both he and Tennant are avowed socialists and long time supporters of the Labour Party. It shouldn't matter, obviously, but two actors of their stature throwing their weight behind Labour will sway some, certainly add a little glamour to the image.

Well, I knew about Tennant, but not Freeman - thanks for that. I (obvs) know about Eddie Izzard (was at a do in Manchester a few years back where he fetched up - nice guy) and there's also Bill Bailey who's fiercely left wing and pro Labour. I wonder how many more slebs there are? Anyone got more examples? I have suspicions about a few slebs, but no proof positive.

Maureen Lipman was pro Labour, but then earlier this year professed she might even leave the country because of the stance Ed was taking over Israel and Palestine.

<furrows brow> The only person I can find with sleb status is Harry Styles of youthful popster fame, but I thought that people like Julie Desmondhalgh and Brian Cox were supporters - however no proof. Come on people - it can't be this hard can it?

Also, I've read somewhere that Clegg is now 10% behind Labour in Sheffield Hallam!

Please, please can someone confirm that this is, in fact, the case. If so I'll be investing in a bottle of Moet (well, probably Prosecco) this evening...

@ernst

Patrick Stewart, Jeanette Winterton, Grayson Perry, Kathy Lette are Labour.

& Grayson Perry, Bianca Jagger, Janet Street-Porter, David Morrissey.
Stephen Fry also attended a Labour fundraiser last summer.

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ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Just sometimes I enjoy the Daily Mail

Nick Clegg's election campaign went from the sublime to the ridiculous today, as he travelled from a meeting with the Queen to a hedgehog sanctuary in Solihull.
The Lib Dem leader was introduced to Humpty, a hedgehog with a head injury which means he keeps walking round in circles.
Mr Clegg was told the animals have a lifespan of just five years, which he might be able to relate to as his party face the prospect of being booted out of government for the first time since 2010.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Vt3RAsKe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I thought it was going to say Clegg was walking around in circles

Daniel Radcliffe, Alan Davies, Frank Skinner, JK Rowling, Paloma Faith, Lily Allen, Jo Brand, Richard Wilson, Paul O'Grady.

@ErnstRemarx.

What do you mean by "sleb"? Is that a specific type of celebrity or just an abbrev?! Anyway, I'm pretty certain Patrick Stewart of Star Trek fame is a full on signed up Labour member, if that's the sort of thing you're looking for.

Chilling photograph captured in door of Nr 10 as Cameron announces election campaign

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/03/ ... -campaign/

I wish.....

yahyah wrote:


For Ephie, hope it doesn't put you off your tea.

Thanks for that, yahyah.

Maybe we won't have sausages, then.

ErnstRemarx wrote:Also, I've read somewhere that Clegg is now 10% behind Labour in Sheffield Hallam!

Please, please can someone confirm that this is, in fact, the case. If so I'll be investing in a bottle of Moet (well, probably Prosecco) this evening...

Is it this you mean? From February.

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index. ... tion-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've got my latest batch of 'phone canvassing sheets. Expect me to become a bit disconnected again.

Spacedone wrote:

ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

Well,Orcs are quite kippery ,don't you think?

It looks like Osborne's "pension freedom" policy is getting off to a cracking start.

Information commissioner investigates alleged sales of pension pot data
Privacy watchdog to investigate report in Daily Mail that details of pensioners’ salaries, investments and size of their pensions are being sold for 5p
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/m ... n-pot-data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An investigation has been launched into claims millions of people’s pension pot details are being sold and ending up in the hands of criminals. Pensioners’ salaries, the value of their investments and the size of their pensions are being sold for as little as 5p without their consent, the Daily Mail reports. The financial details are allegedly being bought by fraudsters and cold-calling firms.

The paper reports that its undercover reporters were sold pension pot details for 15,000 people without any checks being made on who they were and what they wanted the data for.

ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

Quoted because it's absolutely on the numbers. You don't have to be a nostalgic, reality-denying, darky/forner hating halfwit with the IQ of a grapefruit and all the social graces of a pissed up not right to vote UKIP, but it apparently is a trait.

The Kippers I've met have been - to a person - idiots. People whose horizons are so amazingly small that you wonder if they've ever seen a world atlas, let alone travelled. These are people who view - or seem to - the world through a prism made in the late 40s/early 50s; there's no subtlety, no shade of nuance, only fixity of function and absolute black and white answers to any and everything in their worlds. Kids playing up? Beat the kids. Got a speeding ticket? Abolish speed limits. Life not fair and you aren't the success you obviously deserve to be? Vote UKIP and all will be well.

I've just seen an advert for a daytime ITV programme to run daily at 12.30pm for an hour.

Daily studio debate show hosted by James O'Brien. A celebrity panel, experts and a studio audience discuss the major issues affecting people in the UK.

Apparently today was the first of 10 episodes.

Did John Mann release the statement he mentioned yesterday ?

Spacedone wrote:

ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."
"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."

I don't think anyone's mentioned Alan Rickman yet. I'm pretty sure he's a Labour supporter. Oh, and I found this from Jan 2015 on Michael Eavis:

"I am a Labour Party member but I am disappointed with Blair and the war. Every day we have to pay the price for that. I think there will be an alliance between Labour and the SNP that will form the next government. I think Miliband is a good bloke – I know he doesn't come over very well but he has a good social conscience and he will do the right thing. With the help of the Scot Nats, I think they will win."

Read more: http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Glas ... z3VtGtT5Dz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Follow us: @WesternDaily on Twitter | WesternDaily on Facebook

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that's a pretty decent endorsement for Ed and a real hint that putting himself up against his brother was worth it. I'm not sure David M would have been able to put the Iraq War behind the Labour party in the way Ed has. The MSM wouldn't have let him.

Spacedone wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:Also, I've read somewhere that Clegg is now 10% behind Labour in Sheffield Hallam!

Please, please can someone confirm that this is, in fact, the case. If so I'll be investing in a bottle of Moet (well, probably Prosecco) this evening...

Is it this you mean? From February.

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index. ... tion-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For once, I think an emoticon will say it all.

Even Clegg seems embarrassed to use party colours and admit he's a Lib Dem.

Rebecca wrote:

Spacedone wrote:

ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

Well,Orcs are quite kippery ,don't you think?

You speaks the truth my precious.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

Spacedone wrote:

ephemerid wrote:Anyone fancy a bit of UKIP Twattery?

"Call me Phil" Tweeted this -
"Just watching The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring - makes me sad for the England we have lost. Vote for common sense Vote UKIP"

There was me thinking that Middle Earth was a fiction and the movie was filmed in New Zealand......

These people are quite quite mad.

That's begging for a UKIP Hobbiton parody Twitter account.

"UKIP Hobbiton supports every Hobbits' right to smoke pipe-weed and drink Barliman's Best, regardless of what those interfering Big Folk in Bree say!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."
"Everyone knows that only those strange Tooks and Baggins want to travel outside the Shire. We propose closing the border at the Brandywine."

"UKIP Hobbiton is the only party to ban those bad folks from Mordor from joining."

"UKIP Hobbiton strongly protest about the scenes of men sharing their 'feelings' with each other at the end of The Return of the King. Not in our Hobbiton!"

"these so called Rangers are simply gippoes - they'll be banned off the earth when we get in. Vote small, for those so minded."

Just tried to find the post on Twitter, but can't find it. In short a kipper PPC called for Obaman to be kidnapped by the Israelies just as they did Eichman.