Re: Saturday and Sunday, 11th and 12th June respectively, 20
Posted: Sat 11 Jun, 2016 9:10 pm
Wouldn't that be Monmouth, not Brecon and Radnor?
Sir Philip Green calls for Frank Field to resign
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Altogether the wrong approach here from Green, according to the article....Green wrote that the Labour MP’s continued participation in the inquiry would only “obstruct a resolution”.
"I am not prepared to participate in a process which has not even the pretence of fairness and objectivity
and which has as its primary objective the destruction of my reputation,” he wrote. “I therefore require
you to resign immediately from this inquiry."
I assume this panic move wasn't helped by thisTim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 14m14 minutes ago
Tory MPs say Robert Syms asked them to sign letter giving Cameron a stay of execution until October if he loses. But no one wanted to sign
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 15m15 minutes ago
Save Dave plan failed: Tory MPs refused to sign letter saying Cameron should stay until autumn if he loses referendum. See Sunday Times
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 16m16 minutes ago
Tories will keep a low profile on Mon/Tues so Labour figures can lead Remain campaign after panic sets in
Tom McTague Retweeted
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 44m44 minutes ago
YouGov EUReferendum poll Remain 42% Leave 43%
Front page story on Sunday Times - according to the sub head 'Proposal under wraps until after EU vote'.Nick Sutton @suttonnick 28m28 minutes ago
Sunday Times:
Leaked UK plan to open door for 1m Turks
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
Just how utterly incompetent do you have to be to have this sort of thing being discussed in govt circles at a time like this?rebeccariots2 wrote:Or this ...Front page story on Sunday Times - according to the sub head 'Proposal under wraps until after EU vote'.Nick Sutton @suttonnick 28m28 minutes ago
Sunday Times:
Leaked UK plan to open door for 1m Turks
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
Rather depends on who the new Tory leader is - and let's not forget that the members only get the chance to decide between the final two once the others have been eliminated. Osborne's reputation isn't that great now after the Budget. May? Immigration figures probably against her.rebeccariots2 wrote:Over at UK Polling Report they're having a discussion about whether a snap general election in October is on the cards if it's a Brexit win and a new Tory leader is installed. Some are querying whether the opposition would actually support a motion of no confidence - which is what it would take - if they don't particularly want, and probably can't afford, an election that quickly. Hmmmm.
Yes - and many of the Tories may prefer to limp on for as long as they can rather than risk an election.RogerOThornhill wrote:Rather depends on who the new Tory leader is - and let's not forget that the members only get the chance to decide between the final two once the others have been eliminated. Osborne's reputation isn't that great now after the Budget. May? Immigration figures probably against her.rebeccariots2 wrote:Over at UK Polling Report they're having a discussion about whether a snap general election in October is on the cards if it's a Brexit win and a new Tory leader is installed. Some are querying whether the opposition would actually support a motion of no confidence - which is what it would take - if they don't particularly want, and probably can't afford, an election that quickly. Hmmmm.
Not sure that Boris has as great a fanbase within the Parliamentary party as he has outside. I could see someone like Hammond standing as a consensus candidate.
Depending on who the new leader is, Labour might want to keep them going just to watch the fun - especially if it was Boris!
All kinds of permutations are possible...
rebeccariots2 wrote:Good grief. No holds barred.
Think youre not being over Machiavellian. Plus of course discussion of hypotheticals always happens.RogerOThornhill wrote:Just how utterly incompetent do you have to be to have this sort of thing being discussed in govt circles at a time like this?rebeccariots2 wrote:Or this ...Front page story on Sunday Times - according to the sub head 'Proposal under wraps until after EU vote'.Nick Sutton @suttonnick 28m28 minutes ago
Sunday Times:
Leaked UK plan to open door for 1m Turks
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
Unless of course it was a Brexit minister in the FCO that started the ball rolling and then leaked it...a bit Machiavellian that.
It needs more than a motion of no confidence, because of the fixed term thing.rebeccariots2 wrote:Over at UK Polling Report they're having a discussion about whether a snap general election in October is on the cards if it's a Brexit win and a new Tory leader is installed. Some are querying whether the opposition would actually support a motion of no confidence - which is what it would take - if they don't particularly want, and probably can't afford, an election that quickly. Hmmmm.
as I said to you a few weeks ago Tubby, it is not surprising as it is all they have left (but it is working unfortunately) and the lies will only get worseTubby Isaacs wrote:Looks like Sunday Times lying.
Visa free travel for Turks is tourism
If this is true, why did David Cameron take such a gamble by calling a referendum? (Rhetorical question.)David Cameron says state pensions could be at risk if Brexit becomes reality
David Cameron has warned that pledges to raise state pensions every year and ringfence spending for the NHS may have to be ditched in a brutal new phase of austerity if the country votes for Brexit.(Guardian)
Quite. And this from the man who said he had no doubt the UK could thrive outside the EU - a mere few months ago. Not just stupid - he's an arsehole for continually taking the electorate for fools.PorFavor wrote:If this is true, why did David Cameron take such a gamble by calling a referendum? (Rhetorical question.)David Cameron says state pensions could be at risk if Brexit becomes reality
David Cameron has warned that pledges to raise state pensions every year and ringfence spending for the NHS may have to be ditched in a brutal new phase of austerity if the country votes for Brexit.(Guardian)
It's hardly surprising that voters don't believe him, is it? Stupid, stupid man.
Edited to add link -
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ld-reality
I've now got a rather unfortunate mental image of the usual suspects - because I think we know who these Labour colleagues are likely to be - stomping around in full on GAAAAH nuddiness. Horrible.'Naked fury' over Jeremy Corbyn comedy sketch
Jeremy Corbyn has caused "naked fury" among some Labour colleagues by appearing on a TV comedy sketch dressed in a fur coat.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:Quite. And this from the man who said he had no doubt the UK could thrive outside the EU - a mere few months ago. Not just stupid - he's an arsehole for continually taking the electorate for fools.PorFavor wrote:If this is true, why did David Cameron take such a gamble by calling a referendum? (Rhetorical question.)David Cameron says state pensions could be at risk if Brexit becomes reality
David Cameron has warned that pledges to raise state pensions every year and ringfence spending for the NHS may have to be ditched in a brutal new phase of austerity if the country votes for Brexit.(Guardian)
It's hardly surprising that voters don't believe him, is it? Stupid, stupid man.
Edited to add link -
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ld-reality
Who needs privatization? Schools will be hollowed out with companies like this picking up the support services. Wouldn't be at all surprised if they were allowed to take over the teaching staff too eventually.Staff at Colchester Academy in Essex received a letter in the post last June. Cleaning, catering and building maintenance at the struggling school were to be outsourced to a private company.
The academy had been taken over 11 weeks previously by Bright Tribe Multi-Academy Trust, a government-favoured academy chain established by venture capitalist Mike Dwan, which has ambitions to run more than 200 schools.
Bright Tribe had always intended to review auxiliary services at the school, staff were told. Now the takeover of the academy had been completed, a company with the right “resources and infrastructure” had been selected. The winner was a “national facilities management company” called Blue Support.
It was not necessarily a surprise that a profit-making business was being brought in. Outsourcing has become increasingly prevalent in the education sector and Bright Tribe had boasted of being a “new breed of academy trust … which brings together expertise from the education field and the professionalism and influences of commercial partners”.
But in a meeting between union officials and Blue Support executives shortly after the letter arrived, a diligent, if overworked, Unison official admitted to being puzzled. Sitting with her back to the window in one of the new-build school’s soulless rooms, Hazel Corby wondered why the lucky company had the same Stockport address as Bright Tribe’s headquarters. She asked how the company had been so swiftly selected after Bright Tribe’s takeover? Who else had a chance to bid for the contract?
http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... w-businessAre England’s academies becoming a cash cow for business? (Guardian)
Obviously PF's version didn't have the typos.tinyclanger2 wrote:Hello playmates !
Lurking as usual and trying to fit life in amongst all the work and admin that go with it.
Opened today's smorgesboord to see the heading: Saturday and Sunday, 11th and 12th June respectively, 2016
I immediately thought: PorFavor
And lo...
Good riddance if Dave gets the elbow, but it's setting Labour up to be the scapegoat if Brexit wins.rebeccariots2 wrote:I assume this panic move wasn't helped by thisTim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 14m14 minutes ago
Tory MPs say Robert Syms asked them to sign letter giving Cameron a stay of execution until October if he loses. But no one wanted to sign
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 15m15 minutes ago
Save Dave plan failed: Tory MPs refused to sign letter saying Cameron should stay until autumn if he loses referendum. See Sunday Times
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 16m16 minutes ago
Tories will keep a low profile on Mon/Tues so Labour figures can lead Remain campaign after panic sets inTom McTague Retweeted
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 44m44 minutes ago
YouGov EUReferendum poll Remain 42% Leave 43%
Maeght wrote:When is the only possible time that David Cameron can appear a bit reasonable?
Answer: when you have just watched Nigel Farage on the Andrew Marr show. The man is repellent.
Now watching Peston on Sunday and John McDonell. Much less anxiety inducing. I think he is really, impressive.
Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.howsillyofme1 wrote:Maeght wrote:When is the only possible time that David Cameron can appear a bit reasonable?
Answer: when you have just watched Nigel Farage on the Andrew Marr show. The man is repellent.
Now watching Peston on Sunday and John McDonell. Much less anxiety inducing. I think he is really, impressive.
but he is good at lying though and has no worry in making things up and fantasising....a normal human being would have seem embarrassment at being such but with him it is fine....
Interesting to see Helena Kennedy having a go at Marr for letting some non-entity from the TPA witter on for ages whilst interrupting her...also why were there 3 paper reviewers today? One intellectual heavyweight in Kennedy and two extreme right-wingers...including that sinister Frum from the US
Maeght wrote:Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.howsillyofme1 wrote:Maeght wrote:When is the only possible time that David Cameron can appear a bit reasonable?
Answer: when you have just watched Nigel Farage on the Andrew Marr show. The man is repellent.
Now watching Peston on Sunday and John McDonell. Much less anxiety inducing. I think he is really, impressive.
but he is good at lying though and has no worry in making things up and fantasising....a normal human being would have seem embarrassment at being such but with him it is fine....
Interesting to see Helena Kennedy having a go at Marr for letting some non-entity from the TPA witter on for ages whilst interrupting her...also why were there 3 paper reviewers today? One intellectual heavyweight in Kennedy and two extreme right-wingers...including that sinister Frum from the US
And it does give me a peculiar brain ache, having to agree with him, when instinctively I want to take the opposite position to him, but can't.
However, everything is supposed to be relative and I still have to prefer him to Nigel Farage.
Fixed it for Chairman Humph.PorFavor wrote:Maeght wrote:Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.howsillyofme1 wrote:
but he is good at lying though and has no worry in making things up and fantasising....a normal human being would have seem embarrassment at being such but with him it is fine....
Interesting to see Helena Kennedy having a go at Marr for letting some non-entity from the TPA witter on for ages whilst interrupting her...also why were there 3 paper reviewers today? One intellectual heavyweight in Kennedy and two extreme right-wingers...including that sinister Frum from the US
And it does give me a peculiar brain ache, having to agree with him, when instinctively I want to take the opposite position to him, but can't.
However, everything is supposed to be relative and I still have to prefer him to Nigel Farage.
He's handled the whole thing so badly, though. I honestly can't work out what he thought he could gain from his strategy and little minty sweets. He's not standing for re-election so what was going on in his mind? Because even as a career move to bolster his prospects outside mainstream politics it makes no sense to me. He can't have impressed anyone.
I was talking about Farage....even worse than CameronMaeght wrote:Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.howsillyofme1 wrote:Maeght wrote:When is the only possible time that David Cameron can appear a bit reasonable?
Answer: when you have just watched Nigel Farage on the Andrew Marr show. The man is repellent.
Now watching Peston on Sunday and John McDonell. Much less anxiety inducing. I think he is really, impressive.
but he is good at lying though and has no worry in making things up and fantasising....a normal human being would have seem embarrassment at being such but with him it is fine....
Interesting to see Helena Kennedy having a go at Marr for letting some non-entity from the TPA witter on for ages whilst interrupting her...also why were there 3 paper reviewers today? One intellectual heavyweight in Kennedy and two extreme right-wingers...including that sinister Frum from the US
And it does give me a peculiar brain ache, having to agree with him, when instinctively I want to take the opposite position to him, but can't.
However, everything is supposed to be relative and I still have to prefer him to Nigel Farage.
Repeal the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 with a majority vote in the HouseTubby Isaacs wrote:It needs more than a motion of no confidence, because of the fixed term thing.rebeccariots2 wrote:Over at UK Polling Report they're having a discussion about whether a snap general election in October is on the cards if it's a Brexit win and a new Tory leader is installed. Some are querying whether the opposition would actually support a motion of no confidence - which is what it would take - if they don't particularly want, and probably can't afford, an election that quickly. Hmmmm.
Labour should say "you have a mandatem govern".
You and I both. Though a decisive in/out vote at odds with some polling data wouldn't stop some from insisting the vote was tampered with.RogerOThornhill wrote:Whichever way the vote goes, I hope that it's sufficient either way to be classed as valid. A 50.1% leave or remain would be the worst result possible - the other side would simply cry foul and ask for a retake.
The only explanation I can come up with is that Cameron is fantastically more stupid, self-centred and incapable of understanding probable outcomes than the most cynical and pessimistic of us imagined. I cannot conceive of a mindset that thinks that the disaster unfurling before us- which is going to last waaaaay beyond the result - is a desirable thing or even worth the risk, and so I can only put it down to massive stupidity. Cameron really had no idea of what he was doing and what he was unleashing. Already, what we took for normal, for civilised, has vanished. It's not coming back. It really isn't.PorFavor wrote:Maeght wrote:Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.howsillyofme1 wrote:
but he is good at lying though and has no worry in making things up and fantasising....a normal human being would have seem embarrassment at being such but with him it is fine....
Interesting to see Helena Kennedy having a go at Marr for letting some non-entity from the TPA witter on for ages whilst interrupting her...also why were there 3 paper reviewers today? One intellectual heavyweight in Kennedy and two extreme right-wingers...including that sinister Frum from the US
And it does give me a peculiar brain ache, having to agree with him, when instinctively I want to take the opposite position to him, but can't.
However, everything is supposed to be relative and I still have to prefer him to Nigel Farage.
He's handled the whole thing so badly, though. I honestly can't work out what he thought he could gain from his strategy and tactics. He's not standing for re-election so what was going on in his mind? Because even as a career move to bolster his prospects outside mainstream politics it makes no sense to me. He can't have impressed anyone.
(my emphasis)Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011
Published Thursday, October 16, 2014
"The Act applies until it is repealed, so future Parliaments will operate on a five year cycle."
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I hope you're wrong, but fear you're not.mbc1955 wrote: Already, what we took for normal, for civilised, has vanished. It's not coming back. It really isn't.
My son works on rich people's gardens. Believe me, if you heard how they live and act, you wouldn't question Cameron's behaviour.mbc1955 wrote:The only explanation I can come up with is that Cameron is fantastically more stupid, self-centred and incapable of understanding probable outcomes than the most cynical and pessimistic of us imagined. I cannot conceive of a mindset that thinks that the disaster unfurling before us- which is going to last waaaaay beyond the result - is a desirable thing or even worth the risk, and so I can only put it down to massive stupidity. Cameron really had no idea of what he was doing and what he was unleashing. Already, what we took for normal, for civilised, has vanished. It's not coming back. It really isn't.PorFavor wrote:Maeght wrote: Of course he is a liar. There is only one thing I agree with him about - Remain.
And it does give me a peculiar brain ache, having to agree with him, when instinctively I want to take the opposite position to him, but can't.
However, everything is supposed to be relative and I still have to prefer him to Nigel Farage.
He's handled the whole thing so badly, though. I honestly can't work out what he thought he could gain from his strategy and tactics. He's not standing for re-election so what was going on in his mind? Because even as a career move to bolster his prospects outside mainstream politics it makes no sense to me. He can't have impressed anyone.