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AnatolyKasparov wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Press AssociationVerified account
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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn refuses to give an interview as he hits the by-election campaign trail in Stoke-on-Trent

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What IS the matter with him ! ?

Actually - and I am being fully serious now - his absolute and utter contempt for the media is maybe one of his biggest plus points.

We actually KNOW that journalists are prepared to twist and distort what he says to fit their agenda (cf Kuenssberg and "shoot to kill")

Can we blame him for wanting to interact with them as little as possible?

pk1 wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Press AssociationVerified account
‏@PA
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn refuses to give an interview as he hits the by-election campaign trail in Stoke-on-Trent

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What IS the matter with him ! ?

Actually - and I am being fully serious now - his absolute and utter contempt for the media is maybe one of his biggest plus points.

We actually KNOW that journalists are prepared to twist and distort what he says to fit their agenda (cf Kuenssberg and "shoot to kill")

Can we blame him for wanting to interact with them as little as possible?

And who is it that we rely on to carry the Labour message to the country ? The Canary ? Facebook ? Twitter ? Yeah, that worked real well for Ed didn't it.

Treating the media with contempt means they can legitimately ignore Labour then when everyone whines that the media ignore Labour, they'll have nobody to blame but themselves !

A legal challenge has been filed against Donald Trump’s executive order, which imposes a three-month ban on refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries and from Syria permanently.

HindleA wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:

UN condemns President's bar on asylum and entry from Muslim-majority countries
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Trump's hatred makes me feel physically sick.

Maybe try singing instead?

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Richard Murphy on 'Fuck You' wrote:And if you’re offended, I’m not apologising. The time for subtlety has gone.

Expatexit: One entrepreneur is helping foreigners leave the UK because of Brexit and find jobs elsewhere
While financial firms are discussing whether they will need to move European headquarters or their staff to the continent, one entrepreneur sees the UK's possible brain drain as an opportunity
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:I think Corbyn''s contempt for newspapers is fine. But TV news is much more trusted, even if it has much wrong with it. I think he needs to be more careful there.

It's easy to look silly if you get cornered on camera though.

yahyah wrote:Brain Drain ! Don't be negative, embrace the opportunity. Explain it away as a good thing, part of draining the elite swamp.

edited to add. - Refitman - I'm not sure why my posts are coming out so big, the text box is bigger than I'm using.

yahyah wrote:Thanks Refitman. I'll try and resize it again. Thought I'd got it right.

pk1 wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Of course they "should", everybody should. But in reality a lot of politics is about deciding when to compromise and when to make a stand.

(and another thing supporting A50 doesn't do is preclude anybody from supporting rejoining the EU in the future - not impossible if Brexit turns out as badly as it might)

Rejoining the EU means accepting the Euro as our currency. That won't happen in my lifetime & rightly so.

pk1 wrote:

Tubby Isaacs wrote:I think Corbyn''s contempt for newspapers is fine. But TV news is much more trusted, even if it has much wrong with it. I think he needs to be more careful there.

It's easy to look silly if you get cornered on camera though.

Yes, but they should be using every opportunity to cooperative positively with the press, particularly local news in the midst of a by-election campaign.

yahyah wrote:Jezza allegedly beat a hasty retreat when a Press Association reporter asked about the Stoke Labour candidate calling him ''an IRA supporting friend of Hamas career politician'' in a Tweet last year.

A free trade deal with the United States and other countries would not make up for the loss to the UK's economy of leaving the single market, a report has claimed.

Eric_WLothian wrote:

yahyah wrote:Jezza allegedly beat a hasty retreat when a Press Association reporter asked about the Stoke Labour candidate calling him ''an IRA supporting friend of Hamas career politician'' in a Tweet last year.

Iain Gray hiding in a sandwich shop when confronted by SNP supporters didn't do Scottish Labour any good.

StephenDolan wrote:AK, I voted for Watson as deputy. It was a toss-up between him and Creasy.

Theresa May said it [fighter jet deal] could open the way to billions of pounds worth of business, as she became the first foreign leader to visit Turkey since Recep Tayyip Erdogan ordered a wave of arrests and sackings in the wake of last summer's coup.

Questioned over human rights concerns, Downing Street officials said the deal to design the TF-X jets was sealed in light of Turkey's status as a Nato ally and claimed Ms May could approach human rights as a "separate" issue.

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None of the US papers put Theresa May's visit to the White House on their front page. It's time to face our insignificance
While the British newspapers didn't hesitate to lead with the Prime Minister's first meeting with President Trump, for the American audience it didn't seem particularly relevant
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Theresa May refuses to condemn Trump refugee ban

Jamie Grierson Jamie Grierson
Theresa May has ducked a series of questions on Donald Trump’s migrant and refugee ban, according to reporters at the scene of a joint press conference with the Turkish PM.
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Charities must adapt to a low-trust society
Tim Lott
Trust in British charitable organisations is falling. But social enterprise offers a way to ensure giving is truly effective
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the Gross National Product includes air pollution, ambulances to clear our highways from carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and jails for the people who break them. The Gross National Product includes the destruction of the redwoods and the death of Lake Superior. It grows with the production of napalm and missles and nuclear warheads.... It includes... the broadcasting of television programs which glorify violence to sell goods to our children. And if the Gross National Product includes all this, there is much that it does not comprehend. It does not allow for the health of our families, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It is indifferent to the decency of our factories and the safety of our streets alike. It does not include the beauty of our poetry, or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials... the Gross National Product measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country. It measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile, and it can tell us everything about America -- except whether we are proud to be Americans.

tinyclanger2 wrote:

Theresa May refuses to condemn Trump refugee ban

Jamie Grierson Jamie Grierson
Theresa May has ducked a series of questions on Donald Trump’s migrant and refugee ban, according to reporters at the scene of a joint press conference with the Turkish PM.
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Britain should be up in arms about all this, but instead we carry on thinking the Tories are doing a cracking job.
WTF?

Watson was urging sensible action over Brexit at a conference in central London where he also said Britain must be open-minded about Donald Trump’s economic policies. He said he hoped the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, would meet the US president when he travels to the UK for a state visit later this year.
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watson wrote:“But, let me just be very clear, I understand this is very unique circumstances and we are going to deal with this issue very sensitively.”

yahyah wrote:How could it be done ? What would it take ?

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The way people tried to get rid of Jez last summer was precisely the wrong way.

He is vulnerable now because his approach over Brexit has cost him the support of some who previously strongly backed him. Senior people in Labour should try to get some sort of deal that he agrees to step down in the relatively near future, in return for a left candidate being guaranteed access to the ballot in the subsequent contest.