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howsillyofme1 wrote:Iain Dale just seems to be assuming all the UKIP voters will vote for the Tories....I think this seems to be what is being picked up in the national polling too

Will this actually hold true though when it comes to voting day - especially in Labour areas where ex-UKIP voters may not be so keen on Tory social policies

Will have to watch this space.....

He's got Hartlepool going Tory, I find that very hard to imagine, would be interested to know what Hindle thinks.
I think UKIP could take it.

It's been said a greater Tory majority won't alter EU 'Brexit' negotiations.
I'm inclined to agree with that.
In d’Ancona's latest daft warbling, he insists a bigger Tory majority will strengthen T May's negotiation stance.
If it doesn't matter how many Tory's sit on T May's front bench, does it matter who gets returned to government at all from the EU's point of view?

Marching for Europe placards:

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/culture ... -1-4946442" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1. EU citizens as bargaining chips
2. Whingeing liberal elitist snowflake (and proud)
3. Brits abroad as bargaining chips
4. More austerity over Brexit fears
5. 5% spike in price of food
6. Hate crime up 50%

The Donald:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 10781.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Donald Trump describes US constitution as 'archaic' and 'really bad'

@gilsey
Only now go by what my local correspondent thinks in weekly updates as a 92 year old (remainer,uncommited but usually Labour,liked Mandy(as MP in dealings),not overly fond of the departing Wright,dislikes relentless Corbyn attacks,thinks UKIP have a chance,thinks pressure from them and increasing discord with Wright the reason for his leaving.

tinyclanger2 wrote:The Donald:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 10781.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Donald Trump describes US constitution as 'archaic' and 'really bad'

Are US Presidents allowed to question the validity of the US Constitution in such a manner? It's treason, isn't it? Some thought did go into setting up checks, balances, what-if-we-inadvertently-elect-a-nut

An Ed fan or not, you have to admit that he does do that Twitter rather well...

Ed Miliband‏Verified account @Ed_Miliband 24m24 minutes ago
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Strong & Stable Gov 1 (2015):PM resigns, manifesto shredded, Scottish independence threat, election called, man buys shed. Fancy the sequel?

Mr A's shed is better obv (back by popular demand):

Closing in the polls (real or otherwise) removes any complacency from the blue vote.

BTW I noticed NicholasB was back at the other place last week.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 11006.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Former UK ambassador to Ireland is applying for Irish citizenship because of Brexit
Sir Ivor Roberts says he wants an Irish passport to hold onto his EU citizenship

Just watching the news, I notice that Theresa May has "absolutely no plans" to raise taxes.

Funny, I seem to recall there being similar...er...promises the last three times they went and raised the rate of VAT afterwards.

RogerOThornhill wrote:Just watching the news, I notice that Theresa May has "absolutely no plans" to raise taxes.

Funny, I seem to recall there being similar...er...promises the last three times they went and raised the rate of VAT afterwards.

not forgetting the absolutely no plan to call a snap election

citizenJA wrote:It's been said a greater Tory majority won't alter EU 'Brexit' negotiations.
I'm inclined to agree with that.
In d’Ancona's latest daft warbling, he insists a bigger Tory majority will strengthen T May's negotiation stance.
If it doesn't matter how many Tory's sit on T May's front bench, does it matter who gets returned to government at all from the EU's point of view?

Not sure - they've still got to negotiate with whoever's in charge, so presumably the intended process will stay the same. At the very least they'd get to spend time with Keir Starmer instead of David Davis . Labour's brexit objectives are different to Tories (kind of like Brexit with Benefits), so there should be some differences in approach. I think Labour have said they'd have a meaningful vote at the end of it, presumably with the option of further talks or staying in EU, rather than jump off a cliff. That might affect any 'deal' offered.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/16301054" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Don’t Be Fooled By The Spin - Labour Is Offering A Clear Alternative To A Tory Hard Brexit"

Somehow I fail to find the reassurance in my PM feeling the need to clarify this:

http://www.euronews.com/2017/04/30/ther ... ent-galaxy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“I’m not in a different galaxy. What this shows is that there are going to be times when these negotiations are going to be tough,” she said.

Have we seen this new Twitter account?

Hadn't seen this.

Philip Collins‏Verified account @PCollinsTimes Apr 28
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I am usually a strong defender of politics but this empty, choreographed, stale, boring Tory campaign essentially implies we are all idiots.

Yep.

RogerOThornhill wrote:Hadn't seen this.

Philip Collins‏Verified account @PCollinsTimes Apr 28
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I am usually a strong defender of politics but this empty, choreographed, stale, boring Tory campaign essentially implies we are all idiots.

Yep.

Tories want people annoyed, fearful, anxious and feeling patronised.
Greater likelihood of many people turning away from any and all political engagement.

RogerOThornhill wrote:An Ed fan or not, you have to admit that he does do that Twitter rather well...

Ed Miliband‏Verified account @Ed_Miliband 24m24 minutes ago
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Strong & Stable Gov 1 (2015):PM resigns, manifesto shredded, Scottish independence threat, election called, man buys shed. Fancy the sequel?

Then you read the responses from young 'Lydia Suffield' and see why he didn't win.

TL DR: People are selfish c**ts.

It will backfire

NonOxCol wrote:

RogerOThornhill wrote:An Ed fan or not, you have to admit that he does do that Twitter rather well...

Ed Miliband‏Verified account @Ed_Miliband 24m24 minutes ago
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Strong & Stable Gov 1 (2015):PM resigns, manifesto shredded, Scottish independence threat, election called, man buys shed. Fancy the sequel?

Then you read the responses from young 'Lydia Suffield' and see why he didn't win.

TL DR: People are selfish c**ts.

I agree but take consolation it's only a few dozen people tops posting crap like that
It's objective is demoralisation, nothing more, nothing less
The more knowledge, information we learn opens up hope, different ideas, ways to counter the tedious lulling

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Apparently Ian Hislop called out BBC pro-Tory bias on HIGNFY this weekend! A clear indicator of how far it's sunk since 2010.

Can I also recommend the Twitter feed of 'Stabledoor Metaphor', particularly a long thread from
last night (Sat) about why 'strong and stable' will resonate with a certain kind of voter.

tinyclanger2 wrote:Somehow I fail to find the reassurance in my PM feeling the need to clarify this:

http://www.euronews.com/2017/04/30/ther ... ent-galaxy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“I’m not in a different galaxy. What this shows is that there are going to be times when these negotiations are going to be tough,” she said.

"imgur"

I've nothing to offer besides a hope that you all might eventually become sane.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 06826.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bed-ridden stroke victim told to use food banks after DWP admin error leaves him without benefit

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/t ... o-10329116" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Thousands of people who score 'zero points' for disability benefit win fight to get it back


More than 13,000 people rejected for disability benefit after scoring "zero points" on their assessment have had the decision overturned, new figures show.

Campaigners warn Anybody that has followed from initial conception warned the inevitable consequence would be an assessment process for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) which is "broken" and has "deep and widespread" failures.

Jeremy Cliffe from the Economist tweets about May and Junker's pre-negotiations - a long twitter stream, the only way I can get it all in the link is to pull up his standard stream so go to the bottom and work your way up

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/

"I leave Downing St ten times as sceptical as I was before" Juncker told May as he left

(That is far from the worst of it)

Among the articles linked to further above, the other point to make about negotiations is the idea that leaving the EU has never been the point of this, it was just a step on the way. The point was destroying the 20th century welfare state and wider social contract - privatising or just abolishing every aspect of social security except to a level a long way below the bare minimum, introducing insurance based healthcare, removing employment protection. This is what labour should be campaigning about - we know these negotiations are going to fail, so let's be loud and clear about where that will lead.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... ing-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Inappropriate to use the Local Housing Allowance rate, says Committee

The Government should scrap plans to base rent allowances for supported housing tenants on rates used for claimants in the private rented sector, the Work and Pensions and Communities and Local Government Committees conclude in a joint report on the future of supported housing.

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-net ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ig-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nce-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gig economy" companies free-riding on the welfare state

Benefit cap "starting to bite" across Britain

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nce-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"As the benefit cap starts to bite across Britain it looks from the evidence we’ve seen so far like a drastic cut to income for people who are really unable to cut their living costs any further. The evidence does not show us that being plunged further into poverty encourages or helps people to find work, and the vast majority of those hit by this cut are already recognised as unable to work at the moment. It is very hard to see any benefit from the benefit cap."

"Salivating ignorant twattism is popular"

adam wrote:Jeremy Cliffe from the Economist tweets about May and Junker's pre-negotiations - a long twitter stream, the only way I can get it all in the link is to pull up his standard stream so go to the bottom and work your way up

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/

"I leave Downing St ten times as sceptical as I was before" Juncker told May as he left

(That is far from the worst of it)

This is from February but explains May's delusion very well.
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Good Morfternoon

(Bank holiday cover for PorFavor)

HindleA wrote:"Salivating ignorant twattism is popular"

Though an interesting - and widely missed - detail from recent polling is that benefit cuts are becoming *less* popular.

Think I'd better take a break from doing crosswords for a bit,trying to work out the answer to "semi-skimmed milk"

HindleA wrote:
Benefit cap "starting to bite" across Britain

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nce-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"As the benefit cap starts to bite across Britain it looks from the evidence we’ve seen so far like a drastic cut to income for people who are really unable to cut their living costs any further. The evidence does not show us that being plunged further into poverty encourages or helps people to find work, and the vast majority of those hit by this cut are already recognised as unable to work at the moment. It is very hard to see any benefit from the benefit cap."

Utterly damning from the committee, hope we hear plenty more about it from Labour.

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/housing-net ... are_btn_tw

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... ing-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apologies if Hindle's already posted this link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/john-he ... mg00000004" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Country’s 11Million Private Renters Need A Consumer Rights Revolution - Labour Will Give It To Them

adam wrote:Jeremy Cliffe from the Economist tweets about May and Junker's pre-negotiations - a long twitter stream, the only way I can get it all in the link is to pull up his standard stream so go to the bottom and work your way up

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/

"I leave Downing St ten times as sceptical as I was before" Juncker told May as he left

(That is far from the worst of it)

Here it is in 1 - 30 & it's absolutely extraordinary

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20 years ago today, millions were electing Labour to oust the Tories.

Ex-Manchester United defender, Patrice Evra, has a message of cheer for everyone:

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We could certainly have done with him at his peak this season!

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Tory candidate defends spending up to £1m on West Midlands mayor campaign

AnatolyKasparov wrote:We could certainly have done with him at his peak this season!

Quite. Gawd only knows how we get through to the end of this maddest of seasons with no fit defenders & Rashford taking all the set plays despite having the far better free-kick & corner taker, Rooney, on the pitch

citizenJA wrote:

"Unlike “affordable”, “social” or “key worker” schemes, municipal housing was intended to be universal, and for 35 years has been under continual attack. Private renting, in hugely insecure circumstances is increasingly dominant in the big cities. ...return to unambiguous, publicly owned council housing, available to everyone who wants and needs it, rather than those with the time for housing co-ops or the wherewithal for community land trusts. ...build the sort of democratic structures of collective ownership...."
- Owen Hatherley

I've been told by a number of people that I don't 'deserve' my council flat and that 'these places should be for vulnerable people only'. I tried to explain that having whole estates full of vulnerable people usually end up as sink estates and that having a mixture of people was better.

Next I was told I should be paying 2/3 of my salary for something further out of town like everyone else. I asked why me paying more rent and therefore having less to spend in the economy a good thing? ::silence::

Naturally these same people are paying less than me for a mortgage on their own larger place, bought with help from rich parents.

seeingclearly wrote:

HindleA wrote:Not wheelchair accessible


Looks likes a portaloo with pretensions to me.

Good-afternoon, everyone

Average weekly take-away outlet leaflet update: 3.2 (a rise of .3 on same week last year)
Charity bag steady at 3
solar panels drop to .6
double glazing .4

Everybody enjoying the sunny weather then, I assume?

It went cloudy here just a few minutes ago.......