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HindleA wrote:"Real conservatism is compassionate and responsible. We look after people, especially our most vulnerable"


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The peanut in the can Tory,the "vulnerable" are necessary only to serve the purpose of self aggrandisement.Nanny Stateists extraordinaire,they need protection when the "vulnerable" dare complain.

Maugham, the project’s founder, said: “We have spending limits to stop our democracy being captured by those with limitless sums to spend. The Electoral Commission’s role is to police those spending limits – to protect our democracy. If it doesn’t do its job our democracy can’t function.

“These facts raise obvious and serious questions about the conduct of the Electoral Commission and the referendum. Was our watchdog asleep on the job?”

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HindleA wrote:Well it has been very nice posting bollox to you all,a very good night.You would have thought there would be some kind of limit before a word of sense would intervene,obviously not.

PM pledges to freeze tuition fees

The Conservative Party conference will see the announcement of policies aimed to win over young voters
(BBC News website)

Corbyn gives every appearance of wallowing in the attention. But, wisely, he adopts a saintly air of modesty. After a portrait of his head crowned by a halo was paraded in the conference centre, he told Sky News he had worked hard in the election campaign but, mighty though his labours were, he did not deserve to be sanctified. “I often feel deeply embarrassed by it. It’s not my wish and it’s not my doing.” If he meant a word of this, Corbyn would ask his aides why they appeared to take the Lord’s name in vain by addressing him as “JC” in public.

HindleA wrote:http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1659128 ... over-young

The fact Theresa May thinks she can win over young people by pledging to freeze tuition fees only weeks after increasing them to £9,250 shows just how out of touch cynical she is - Rayner

Labour Leavers’ claims that EU blocks state takeovers are rejected by experts

EU officials bewildered by claims the union is a one-size fits all club when there are many more social democratic, statist members than the UK
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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has long been sympathetic to the Labour Brexit – or “Lexit” – argument for the UK to leave the single market, if not the customs union, to escape a Brussels oligarchy that some believe has frowned on efforts by left-leaning governments to support individual industries or nationalise them to protect consumers’ and workers’ rights.

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But a legal assessment of Labour’s 26 specific economic proposals by Andrea Biondi, director of the Centre of European Law at King’s College London, found that the effect of remaining inside the EU “would likely be negligible”.

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Most European countries have a nationalised railway system.

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The European commission has estimated that its history of exemptions shows that more than three-quarters of submissions for state aid have been waved through.

‘Hang the Tories’ protest banner on Salford bridge denounced by MPs
Huge hand-painted sign removed from bridge by police ahead of Conservative party’s conference in Manchester
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Anti-austerity protesters branded 'disgusting' after hanging a Tory dummy from an overpass in sick stunt

Drivers were shocked to see the suited mannequin above the M60
Police took the dummy down amid fears it would cause an accident
It comes after protesters have hurled eggs at Tory conference delegates

tinyclanger2 wrote:PS my point being that while I imagine the stunt 2 years ago could have been genuinely alarming for motorists - this year's is on totally different scale AND it's all been done before. AND this has what seems to be a clue to the fact that many honest getting-a-six-month-prison-sentence-for-receiving-a-pair-of-looted-shorts-compared-to-suspended-sentence-for-privileged-oxford-student-who-stabbed-her-boyfriend mancs probably sing this in the pub regularly.

It’s not just a rich white girl getting a let-off; it’s also a victim of domestic violence with severe mental health and substance misuse problems being given a chance to rebuild her life. You may not care for that latter interpretation, but it’s no less valid than the former preferred by today’s front page “Toff Justice” tabloid headlines, implicitly recycling the nasty myth that money confers mental health immunity.

gilsey wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:PS my point being that while I imagine the stunt 2 years ago could have been genuinely alarming for motorists - this year's is on totally different scale AND it's all been done before. AND this has what seems to be a clue to the fact that many honest getting-a-six-month-prison-sentence-for-receiving-a-pair-of-looted-shorts-compared-to-suspended-sentence-for-privileged-oxford-student-who-stabbed-her-boyfriend mancs probably sing this in the pub regularly.

There's a lot more about that here, not having a go at you tc2.
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It’s not just a rich white girl getting a let-off; it’s also a victim of domestic violence with severe mental health and substance misuse problems being given a chance to rebuild her life. You may not care for that latter interpretation, but it’s no less valid than the former preferred by today’s front page “Toff Justice” tabloid headlines, implicitly recycling the nasty myth that money confers mental health immunity.

tinyclanger2 wrote:Some of the sentences meted out after the 2011 riots were inhuman. And am sure many promising lives were negatively impacted by them.

gilsey wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:Some of the sentences meted out after the 2011 riots were inhuman. And am sure many promising lives were negatively impacted by them.

Couldn't agree more.

Two wrongs don't make a right, as my Mum used to say.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:The riots sentences are the exceptions, Lavinia Woodward isn't.

tinyclanger2 wrote:

gilsey wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:Some of the sentences meted out after the 2011 riots were inhuman. And am sure many promising lives were negatively impacted by them.

Couldn't agree more.

Two wrongs don't make a right, as my Mum used to say.

Yes as I say, I'm not saying, necessarily the Oxford student should be in jail; I'm saying other lives should be viewed equally empathetically. And indeed am put out that the life of a future surgeon is seemingly considered (by the judge) to be more promising and socially impactful than the life of a future anything else.

Buckingham Palace was infuriated with Theresa May after she misled the Queen about the progress of negotiations as she sought to form a government, it has been reported.

The Prime Minister was said to have suffered a crisis of confidence in the wake of surrendering her majority in the snap general election, with aides reportedly considering enlisting a special forces commander to give her a pep talk.

tinyclanger2 wrote:UK has lost any sense of (admittedly dark) humour it may have had. I have no idea what the poster makers meant - as I haven't talked to them. But then again nor has anyone else, and that's my problem with it.

But it could equally be no more sinister than singing Hang the Tories to the tune of Panic, or as sinister as others seem to believe. Without talking to the sign makers we will never know, but our knee jerk reaction these days it to make a big thing of it.

tinybgoat wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:UK has lost any sense of (admittedly dark) humour it may have had. I have no idea what the poster makers meant - as I haven't talked to them. But then again nor has anyone else, and that's my problem with it.

But it could equally be no more sinister than singing Hang the Tories to the tune of Panic, or as sinister as others seem to believe. Without talking to the sign makers we will never know, but our knee jerk reaction these days it to make a big thing of it.

Theresa May hasn't got the equivalent of the 'Oh, Jeremy Corbyn' chant, yet, but not sure this one's the best choice.

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76406.html

Buckingham Palace was infuriated with Theresa May after she misled the Queen about the progress of negotiations as she sought to form a government, it has been reported.

The Prime Minister was said to have suffered a crisis of confidence in the wake of surrendering her majority in the snap general election, with aides reportedly considering enlisting a special forces commander to give her a pep talk.

I'm not sure what this means, but doesn't sound good.

tinyclanger2 wrote:

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76406.html

Buckingham Palace was infuriated with Theresa May after she misled the Queen about the progress of negotiations as she sought to form a government, it has been reported.

The Prime Minister was said to have suffered a crisis of confidence in the wake of surrendering her majority in the snap general election, with aides reportedly considering enlisting a special forces commander to give her a pep talk.

I'm not sure what this means, but doesn't sound good.

So how come the rest of us knew?

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76406.html

Buckingham Palace was infuriated with Theresa May after she misled the Queen about the progress of negotiations as she sought to form a government, it has been reported.

The Prime Minister was said to have suffered a crisis of confidence in the wake of surrendering her majority in the snap general election, with aides reportedly considering enlisting a special forces commander to give her a pep talk.

I'm not sure what this means, but doesn't sound good.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:The riots sentences are the exceptions, Lavinia Woodward isn't.