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Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 10:13 pm
by howsillyofme1
SpinningHugo wrote:howsillyofme1 wrote:Last week you told us how well suited Cameron was to the role......
I would take my chances with Ed Miliband every time over your guy
For one thing we wouldn’t be in line to leave the EU but then again you never seem to blame Cameron for that funnily enough
What I said was *ignoring the policies* (I asterisked it at the time), Cameron was well suited to the role. He was a good front of house performer for the Tories, winning in 2015 when the Tories should have lost badly after years of austerity. This is nothing to do with left v right. Miliband managed to lose an election he should have won easily, and which it becomes increasingly clear was the crucial one.
It won't avail you if you are right on ths substance, as Labour was in 2015, if you're fronted by a candidate for PM who is obviously not trusted to fufill the role. Miliband's own tragedy was that he didn't see his own limitations. Just like Brown in that regard. The soft left seems to be full of characters like that,
See
https://spinninghugo.wordpress.com/2016 ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
NB that you don't like the result (and I don't) isn't an argument against the referendum. So, just as you need to be able to distinguish substantive policies and technical proficiency as a political performer (a distinction that eludes you), you'll also need to be able to distinguish between procedural fairness and the substantive outcome.
I doubt you can do that either.
You seem to admire different capabilities than I do
Being able to lie, avoid questions and various other charlatan behaviour is what you admire. Fair enough but excuse me if I accept human frailties and honesty above that
Cameron was one of the most despicable politicians I have ever encountered and my view of him stays very negative
That you admire the values of Cameron above those of Miliband is clear and I will allow others to judge
On my own personal capabilities. I have certain but not infallible and i know that. I like most posters on here for making interesting and relevant points that challenge my, often flawed, opinion
I will leave others to judge but your opinion is the least important as I have no respect for either you character or, alleged by you, intellect
I say again Ed Miliband would have made a more effective PM than Cameron. Cameron may have acted that part but his actual performance can be seen in the current situation
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 10:55 pm
by HindleA
If I knew he was looking,I would simply say "presentational" isn't an objective view and ridiculous to ascribe such singularity as to effects or extent of before you get to the strenuous efforts to skew and make the "truth".Disregarding politics I found Cameron a swarmy performer who came across as totally disingenuous with a tendency to go into a tantrum on the least threat of being exposed,but there you go.
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:14 pm
by HindleA
No PTO from PF,the nerve of the woman.
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:22 pm
by HindleA
:-
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:26 pm
by HindleA
An immorally negligent Budget on various levels.
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:27 pm
by HindleA
But hey isn't Phil funny,do us a favour.
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:35 pm
by HindleA
http://blog.spicker.uk/tinkering-with-universal-credit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tinkering with Universal Credit
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:48 pm
by HindleA
https://makingrightsmakesense.wordpress ... -be-human/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The right to be human
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:56 pm
by HindleA
http://careandsupportalliance.com/the-c ... mber-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Care and Support Alliance’s response to the Government’s Budget November 2017
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Wed 22 Nov, 2017 11:57 pm
by HindleA
http://www.4socialhousing.co.uk/2017_budget" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SHOUT response to 2017 Budget
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 12:06 am
by HindleA
http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... esa-17-19/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ESA and PIP claimants share experience of assessments
In the next session the evidence collected and heard will be put to representatives of the contracted assessors themselves.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nts-17-19/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 12:41 am
by HindleA
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... y-13941399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Large-scale disturbance' in Liverpool city centre - latest updates
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 12:42 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/ ... y-one-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ashes 2017: Australia v England: first Test, day one – live!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/15665499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 12:43 am
by RogerOThornhill
Evening all...
That Kent school which wanted to create an unsafe space?
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So James Soderholm, the professor who tried to bring Milo to Simon Langton, and who's now behind the UNSAFE space stunt, has written for Breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/12/0 ... ar-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ….
What a surprise...he's also associated with University of Kent as is Joanna Williams, Furedi and a few others.
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 12:59 am
by gilsey
So far so could be worse
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/ ... y-one-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Night night
Re: Wednesday 22nd November 2017
Posted: Thu 23 Nov, 2017 1:09 am
by RogerOThornhill
Luckily for me I have a BT Internet email address so can watch for the first time in years...and so can my son down in Cardiff.
Who needs Sky eh?