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Gove’s Commons Euro Cockup
http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... ockup.html

Gove was, despite all the spin applied by his press pals, a disaster at Education. He has been no better as Chief Whip. If Cameron has any sense, he will sack the SOB, and sack him in short order. Perhaps “Oiky” can be found a job as, oh I dunno, “Minister without portfolio but with special responsibility for briefing to his pals in the right-wing press”. It’s about all he’s fit for.

If Dave doesn’t sack him before PMQs tomorrow, he certainly will soon afterwards.

rebeccariots2 wrote:

Gove’s Commons Euro Cockup
http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... ockup.html

Refreshingly blunt write up. The article we've been missing.

Gove was, despite all the spin applied by his press pals, a disaster at Education. He has been no better as Chief Whip. If Cameron has any sense, he will sack the SOB, and sack him in short order. Perhaps “Oiky” can be found a job as, oh I dunno, “Minister without portfolio but with special responsibility for briefing to his pals in the right-wing press”. It’s about all he’s fit for.

If Dave doesn’t sack him before PMQs tomorrow, he certainly will soon afterwards.

Bet he doesn't. No judgement at all, our Empty.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is an interesting read for all this interested in St Julie of Stafford

http://www.worldmedicaltimes.org/cure-t ... ty-or-not/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cure-the-nhs-ctnhs-is-it-a-charity-or-not

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Shocking news this, Matthew Hancock is a shit MP apparently, I'd never have guessed.

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/11/c ... t-hancock/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is an interesting read for all this interested in St Julie of Stafford

http://www.worldmedicaltimes.org/cure-t ... ty-or-not/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cure-the-nhs-ctnhs-is-it-a-charity-or-not

Interesting indeed Paul. Thanks.
Let's hope something develops from it.

Have bookmarked it for a further and deeper read as spiced aubergines & bombay potatoes are needing cooking.

Night all. Thanks for your energy and posts.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote:

Gove’s Commons Euro Cockup
http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/ ... ockup.html

Refreshingly blunt write up. The article we've been missing.

Gove was, despite all the spin applied by his press pals, a disaster at Education. He has been no better as Chief Whip. If Cameron has any sense, he will sack the SOB, and sack him in short order. Perhaps “Oiky” can be found a job as, oh I dunno, “Minister without portfolio but with special responsibility for briefing to his pals in the right-wing press”. It’s about all he’s fit for.

If Dave doesn’t sack him before PMQs tomorrow, he certainly will soon afterwards.

Bet he doesn't. No judgement at all, our Empty.

Your bet is safe there's no PMQs tomorrow

rebeccariots2 wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Shocking news this, Matthew Hancock is a shit MP apparently, I'd never have guessed.

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/11/c ... t-hancock/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Snap letsskip. Yes - who'd have ever guessed?

Big Bank Hank, the New York rapper who, as part of the Sugarhill Gang, released what is generally regarded as the first rap record, has died at the age of 57.

tom_watson ‏@tom_watson 13m13 minutes ago
Photographer charged with blackmail. Tweeted without comment as he is facing trial. http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5403/ ... -blackmail" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Hobiejoe wrote:Evening all.

Apropos nothing in particular, I ambled over to take a look at Sparrow's blog and immediately struck by how very, very bland the classroom in which CallMe was pictured is. It is almost completely featureless, everything - walls, ceiling, furniture - in various shades of grey. Nothing to show any spark of colour, of difference, of individuality and individual input. Utterly depressing.

I suppose that if you can extract the human essence of education to that extent, then the next step is to do away with teachers and even classrooms and do everything online. Something that bastard Murdoch's been pushing for.

*sigh*

DonutHingeParty wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

citizenJA wrote:@Ohsocynical -

How do Tories get that way? What in the world happened in McVey's life or brain to get like that??

Look at that, will you - I used two question marks. I'll be using smileys at this rate.

From the articles I've read Conservatives are born that way. Psychopathic to a certain degree which merely means they usually stop at murder. They're certainly not what you or I would class as normal.
They certainly have the empathy bump missing.

With respect, that's monstering and othering, which is not helpful. It's the kind of attitude that leads people to say "Muslims don't care about life in the same way we do" or "Africa will always be a poor continent because they are lazy".

The attitudes that are inculcated in you at an early stage do tend to stay, and it's fair to say that those of a Conservative bent have generally come from a position of privilege where their prevailing attitude is "Well I did it, why can't you?" or they've been lucky and in the words of Warren Buffet have "mistaken luck for success and success for luck". They are generally the winners in society - the X Factor winners who claim that "Miracles can happen!" whilst we pay no attention to the thousands of discarded individuals for whom the miracle did not happen - or else they're the gamblers; the ones who think that it can happen for them; the ones who get their information from tabloids - if only the government stopped taking so much of their money for "scroungers" then they could win - they could be there with the best.

I've seen people turn from one side to the other, and every time it's been because an attitude they had based on generality was challenged when it affected someone they knew. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Tories aren't evil - they just like easy solutions, and don't do nuance.

Admittedly, I wouldn't want my son to marry one.

Draft Housing Benefit (Amendment) Regulations 2012 — Under Occupation Criteria — Local Housing Allowance Rates — 24 Oct 2012 at 19:48

The majority of MPs voted to limit the amount of Housing Benefit that working age claimants in the social rented sector are entitled to, based on their household size and to set the rates of Local Housing Allowance, which is a key factor in determining the amount of housing benefit paid for private rented accommodation.

The motion approved by the majority of MPs was:

That the draft Housing Benefit (Amendment) Regulations 2012, which were laid before this House on 28 June, be approved.

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.p ... 4&dmp=6672" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB · 1h 1 hour ago
@GOsborneGenius @LordAshcroft I'm impressed with Kelly, CON Rochester candidate. She's spunky & easily beat Reckless in last night's debate

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Have to agree with DHP, I know a fair few people who vote Tory and they are not intrinsically bad people - far from it, on occasion.

In a way, that is the tragedy - there *are* a few sociopaths in their ranks (IDS!) but I am capable of believing that even Cameron meant well, once.

But for the most part, it isn't that they are evil - but that they are wrong. Which is more tricky to deal with, tbh......

But for the most part, it isn't that they are evil - but that they are wrong. Which is more tricky to deal with, tbh.....

Stop The Rent Hike
http://betterbarnet.nationbuilder.com/renthike

Mr Cameron, on a visit to Rochester ahead of next week's by-election, insisted: "I think it is important that it says that there wasn't a cover up some of the people who've been looking for conspiracy theories will have to look elsewhere."
​Mr Wanless said the Prime Minister was "wrong".
"He can only say that in relation to the registered filing system of the Home Office and we made very clear that we can't make a wider conclusion than that based on the task we were given and the information available to us," he told BBC ​R​adio 4's PM programme.
Asked if that meant Mr Cameron was wrong, Mr Wanless said: "He is wrong."

rebeccariots2 wrote:

Job losses look 'inevitable' as South Tees Hospitals Trust looks to save £91m
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teess ... es-8092326

... Following today’s announcement, the Royal College of Nursing’s operational manager, Peta Clark said: “It is an unprecedented ask to cut £91m from the trust’s budget in the space of three years.

"The total budget for the whole trust is only £550 million a year.

“You have to question whether that scale of cut is doable, even with the best will in the world. Let’s be in no doubt....

So we've heard about the massive scale of cuts to local authorities and councils today ... now we're hearing about cuts in the NHS of a magnitude that makes my eyes water ... and we're told Osborne 'needs' to make a further 148bn of cuts (hope I've got that figure right, relying on memory alone).

This is almost beyond imagination ...

And just after we've read that article about Benyon's multi millions made off the back of the state (housing benefit) and working poor. Sickening.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is an interesting read for all this interested in St Julie of Stafford

http://www.worldmedicaltimes.org/cure-t ... ty-or-not/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cure-the-nhs-ctnhs-is-it-a-charity-or-not

pk1 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This is an interesting read for all this interested in St Julie of Stafford

http://www.worldmedicaltimes.org/cure-t ... ty-or-not/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cure-the-nhs-ctnhs-is-it-a-charity-or-not

Interesting reading. Nearly fell off my chair when I read one of the tweets was addressed to me !!

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:* suddenly I doubt that statement - is there a PMQs tomorrow?

But the data of the views of activists, compiled by Dr Richard Carr from Anglia Ruskin University’s Labour History Research Unit revealed that 83.5 per cent backed Mr Miliband.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... laims.html

Mr Cameron, on a visit to Rochester ahead of next week's by-election, insisted: "I think it is important that it says that there wasn't a cover up some of the people who've been looking for conspiracy theories will have to look elsewhere."
​Mr Wanless said the Prime Minister was "wrong".
"He can only say that in relation to the registered filing system of the Home Office and we made very clear that we can't make a wider conclusion than that based on the task we were given and the information available to us," he told BBC ​R​adio 4's PM programme.
Asked if that meant Mr Cameron was wrong, Mr Wanless said: "He is wrong."

David Lammy retweeted
Sarah Hayward ‏@Sarah_Hayward 25m25 minutes ago
Barnet Tories to hike council rent to 80% of market. This could be sign of future if Labour doesn't win next year. http://betterbarnet.nationbuilder.com/renthike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... laims.html

Mr Cameron, on a visit to Rochester ahead of next week's by-election, insisted: "I think it is important that it says that there wasn't a cover up some of the people who've been looking for conspiracy theories will have to look elsewhere."
​Mr Wanless said the Prime Minister was "wrong".
"He can only say that in relation to the registered filing system of the Home Office and we made very clear that we can't make a wider conclusion than that based on the task we were given and the information available to us," he told BBC ​R​adio 4's PM programme.
Asked if that meant Mr Cameron was wrong, Mr Wanless said: "He is wrong."

He's got to be very very careful. This is one of the issues that I think people really won't stand for any of his ridiculous attempts at tricksy dodgings and waving away noncholantly ... as the Jimmy Savile stuff gets worse and worse - people are beginning to realise that what might once have seemed beyond the realms of reality, been able to be dismissed as paranoia, just cannot be anymore. Some of the truth has been worse than people might have imagined.

citizenJA wrote:good night all.

I love you.

JA

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... laims.html

Mr Cameron, on a visit to Rochester ahead of next week's by-election, insisted: "I think it is important that it says that there wasn't a cover up some of the people who've been looking for conspiracy theories will have to look elsewhere."
​Mr Wanless said the Prime Minister was "wrong".
"He can only say that in relation to the registered filing system of the Home Office and we made very clear that we can't make a wider conclusion than that based on the task we were given and the information available to us," he told BBC ​R​adio 4's PM programme.
Asked if that meant Mr Cameron was wrong, Mr Wanless said: "He is wrong."

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

Birthday wishes (belated and otherwise!)

Eric Pickles in do as I say, not as I do shocker. Bonus pics of Gideon at the end. Look how *wierd* he is
http://huff.to/1u1kIQo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I had a YouGov political survey today, first in a long long time. Feels rather cathartic slamming the coalition.

mash wrote:“With a hot alpha male appearance and easygoing body language he could win the next election and boost party coffers by doing lucrative underwear campaigns.”

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@tc2

yuk I was just about to get some dinner

tinyclanger2 wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@tc2

yuk I was just about to get some dinner

Sorry about that. I must admit I have quite put myself off. Don't know what I was thinking.

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote:

letsskiptotheleft wrote:Shocking news this, Matthew Hancock is a shit MP apparently, I'd never have guessed.

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2014/11/c ... t-hancock/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Snap letsskip. Yes - who'd have ever guessed?

To be fair, that could be local council grandstanding- Hancock's old pals?

er, Mike Hancock's pals.

mash wrote:BRITAIN got two chocolate bars for the price of one following negotiations with a Brussels vending machine, according to George Osborne.

PorFavor wrote:
Don't think so, in this case. Labour Councillors have been keen to see the back of him - dockyard and all that.

Goodnight, everyone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs ... -says.html

If Rolling stones can work into their seventies so can anyone, Esther McVey says
The employment minister, hails record numbers of older people in work as she says that the gap between parents and children has all but disappeared

Hobiejoe wrote:Evening all.

Apropos nothing in particular, I ambled over to take a look at Sparrow's blog and was immediately struck by how very, very bland the classroom in which CallMe was pictured is. It is almost completely featureless, everything - walls, ceiling, furniture - in various shades of grey. Nothing to show any spark of colour, of difference, of individuality and individual input. Utterly depressing.

I suppose that if you can extract the human essence of education to that extent, then the next step is to do away with teachers and even classrooms and do everything online. Something that bastard Murdoch's been pushing for.

*sigh*

ohsocynical wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs ... -says.html

If Rolling stones can work into their seventies so can anyone, Esther McVey says
The employment minister, hails record numbers of older people in work as she says that the gap between parents and children has all but disappeared

What a load of bollocks! Scuse my language, but honest to God....

The Stones have roadies, cooks, and every other sort of help, plus they have oxygen tanks backstage and take a quick pull every so often plus they have tropical island homes to recuperate in. They'd bloody collapse in a heap if they had to do a day's labouring with a couple of weeks on a package holiday if they were lucky.

And the gob forgot a lot of women end up caring for their parents when they're in their fifties...Grrrrrrr.

ephemerid wrote: I have been targeted by a CIF poster in the past - Cinimon/Flower3/other/same person - who usually stayed on the cartoon threads until she got a bee in her bonnet about me. She followed me all over CIF wherever I went, making weird passive-aggressive comments to wind me up, then accusing me of bullying when I responded. Martin Rowson told her off on numerous occasions.
She had a sidekick called FriendOfTheLeft (who was nothing of the kind) and they took to following me and LightaCandle onTwitter doing the same sort of stuff. Very weird. Then they disappeared after Rowson got really exasperated with them.

RogerOThornhill wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs ... -says.html

If Rolling stones can work into their seventies so can anyone, Esther McVey says
The employment minister, hails record numbers of older people in work as she says that the gap between parents and children has all but disappeared

What a load of bollocks! Scuse my language, but honest to God....

The Stones have roadies, cooks, and every other sort of help, plus they have oxygen tanks backstage and take a quick pull every so often plus they have tropical island homes to recuperate in. They'd bloody collapse in a heap if they had to do a day's labouring with a couple of weeks on a package holiday if they were lucky.

And the gob forgot a lot of women end up caring for their parents when they're in their fifties...Grrrrrrr.

A quick read of the best comments...and they're not impressed with her logic.

TechnicalEphemera wrote: Stunningly stupid, ignoring the fact that the Stones are hopeless live these days, it is the total lack of real world knowledge that amazes me. Does she think everybody sits on their arse in useless meetings all day, like her.

Calling all right wing wankers: Remember personal experience is not evidence.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Rewinding a bit.

ephemerid wrote: I have been targeted by a CIF poster in the past - Cinimon/Flower3/other/same person - who usually stayed on the cartoon threads until she got a bee in her bonnet about me. She followed me all over CIF wherever I went, making weird passive-aggressive comments to wind me up, then accusing me of bullying when I responded. Martin Rowson told her off on numerous occasions.
She had a sidekick called FriendOfTheLeft (who was nothing of the kind) and they took to following me and LightaCandle onTwitter doing the same sort of stuff. Very weird. Then they disappeared after Rowson got really exasperated with them.

Fairly certain Cinimon was a bloke, despite the female avatar. It was also a complete tosser, tried that stunt with me a few years ago. Didn't work for them so they left me alone.

But yes CiF is a shithole, the mods have allowed it to turn into the Telegraph. These days I report unsubstantiated slurs. The last time a Kipper went on about Labour endorsing child abuse I was pretty blunt in my abuse report as to the sort of shithole it would turn into if that sort of comment went unmodded.

It all went shit when they allowed people to refer to Blair as a war criminal.

Two years ago when I went round several Primary schools in the area to have a look. None were any good, some were awful.

Tell me he area and I'll have a look and see whether your assessment looks accurate.

No thanks. Who do you think you are, El Prez?! I will be the judge of whether I want to send my children to a particular school. Why would I believe someone who will cite whatever politically driven sources he chooses to reinforce his own political prejudice