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Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:01 pm
by Eric_WLothian
refitman wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:There're an awful lot of Prime Ministers mooching about the place today.
I see what you mean.

What happens next ?

.... Adam .....!
S'me! Will have to look at the thresholds (might be some demotions). That or someone is going to become SoS for the Milky Way :?
Well, I'm keeping my bike and I'm not using the side gate. :lol: :lol:

f***ing plebs.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Tim Fenton ‏@zelo_street 8m8 minutes ago
I have caught a well-known pundit telling another particularly nasty lie about Ed #Miliband. You will enjoy this one #later
What's the betting it's Toadmeister, via the same source as on the WLFS mess?

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:06 pm
by yahyah
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May 8th pic in advance :clap:

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:07 pm
by AngryAsWell
AngryAsWell wrote:Count how many times top Tories dodge a simple question

More :lol:

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Thank you :)

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:07 pm
by yahyah
Oh blow, still can't get Ed's head in the pic - he's outside No 10.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
John Curtice is an excitable chap. He did lots of "Labour doing badly" a year or so ago.

He's now got LAB on 302, even with 48 SNP. Assume that would be 10 LAB MPs in Sco.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:09 pm
by yahyah
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Prime ministerial ? Hell, yes !

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:17 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Let's not get ahead of ourselves - a few weeks left and there's bound to be some nasty stories around to try and knock Labour off-course.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:24 pm
by AngryAsWell
RogerOThornhill wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves - a few weeks left and there's bound to be some nasty stories around to try and knock Labour off-course.
Yar- boo! Hiss (and other pantomime noises) its cheer up Saturday :lol:

:lol!:

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:24 pm
by yahyah
RogerOThornhill wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves - a few weeks left and there's bound to be some nasty stories around to try and knock Labour off-course.

Am just rehearsing it Roger, like sports psychologists say to do, having a goal in sight.
You've got to hope that the people of this country will do the right thing, at least until events prove otherwise.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:28 pm
by ohsocynical
Ron Moore MP retweeted
Chris Tandy ‏@Hugh_Amye 55 mins55 minutes ago
@RonMooreMoreRon #ToryGrandNational Michael Gove (who rode 'Private Academy' last year) disqualified for poor use of the whip.
I am finding a lot to laugh at today...

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:29 pm
by yahyah
AngryAsWell wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves - a few weeks left and there's bound to be some nasty stories around to try and knock Labour off-course.
Yar- boo! Hiss (and other pantomime noises) its cheer up Saturday :lol:

:lol!:

Blame my excercise endorphins !
Not long been back from a windy walk up on the hills, it got my spirits back up and am feeling positive about the outcome.

But Roger's right, there's probably a Dacre/Crosby war party brewing up a 'Red Ed shagged my grandmother at a sauna and the miserable bastard left Wayne Rooney to pay the bill'' story as we speak.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:32 pm
by tinyclanger2
BEWARE FOOTBALL MAGIC

Don't be Bayern Munich.

Help - I need the photo gone. Me nerves are in tatters.

edited to correct "to" to "the"

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:35 pm
by ohsocynical
I've just seen the BBC described as:

As balanced as a one legged drunk with an ear infection.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
RogerOThornhill wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves - a few weeks left and there's bound to be some nasty stories around to try and knock Labour off-course.
Yes, indeed. With Crosby around, Muslims will get a good airing.

Unless they're abusing kids in Oxfordshire, of course.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:37 pm
by ohsocynical
Peter Smith ‏@Redpeter99 2h2 hours ago
If @bbcnews didn't contain long words I could swear it was edited by Grant Shapps. As balanced as a one legged drunk with an ear infection.

Ron Moore MP ‏@RonMooreMoreRon 25 secs26 seconds ago

.... chased across a rolling log by an angry bear with a wasp up its arse.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:39 pm
by AngryAsWell
tinyclanger2 wrote:BEWARE FOOTBALL MAGIC

Don't be Bayern Munich.

Help - I need to photo gone. Me nerves are in tatters.
Never forget "RED" Ed :) and the party is just as united ;)

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:40 pm
by Spacedone
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 16 mins16 minutes ago
Some good news for the #splittheleft strategy
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First time I've seen them admit that they have a strategy to encourage left-wing voters to vote for other parties.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:49 pm
by ohsocynical
Tony Aspinall retweeted
Miliband for PM ‏@MilibandforPM 7 hrs7 hours ago
Professor John Curtice this morning said if polls stay as they are labour could get above 300 seats

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 5:58 pm
by ohsocynical
Sheila Scoular ‏@sheilascoular 6 mins6 minutes ago Ilford, London
I wonder what became of the Tory SPAD who fell on his sword to get @Jeremy_Hunt off Levison's hook. I wonder if Hunt ever thinks of him?
Good question.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:00 pm
by AngryAsWell
Spacedone wrote:
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 16 mins16 minutes ago
Some good news for the #splittheleft strategy
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First time I've seen them admit that they have a strategy to encourage left-wing voters to vote for other parties.
Wonder who's funding them ? That's a lot of deposits for what were small parties - membership is only £10 (last time I looked) and student rates were as low as a £1 over university freshman's (or whatever 1st week is called) week

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 11s12 seconds ago
CON take lead with Opinium
Con 36% (+3), Lab 34% (+1), Lib Dems 7% (n/c), UKIP 11% (-3), Greens 6%
Good Green score there.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:04 pm
by yahyah
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 11s12 seconds ago
CON take lead with Opinium
Con 36% (+3), Lab 34% (+1), Lib Dems 7% (n/c), UKIP 11% (-3), Greens 6%
Good Green score there.
Best they've had in a while.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:06 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 11s12 seconds ago
CON take lead with Opinium
Con 36% (+3), Lab 34% (+1), Lib Dems 7% (n/c), UKIP 11% (-3), Greens 6%
Good Green score there.
Yes, Ed needs to take the opportunity of that opposition leaders debate to point to the Green's policies and ask pointed questions about their costing of them.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:09 pm
by yahyah
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 11s12 seconds ago
CON take lead with Opinium
Con 36% (+3), Lab 34% (+1), Lib Dems 7% (n/c), UKIP 11% (-3), Greens 6%
Good Green score there.
Yes, Ed needs to take the opportunity of that opposition leaders debate to point to the Green's policies and ask pointed questions about their costing of them.

The greens will probably respond with 'that's the politics of fear not hope, don't ask us for facts'.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:21 pm
by Willow904
Re Green candidates. I have no idea if it's students funding them, but if our constituency is anything to go by it's students who are standing for them. Ours is a Bath Uni student, studying politics and french. She has very little to say about pretty much all policy areas compared to the other candidates. Still, with Rees-Mogg coming out with charming little gems like the following, she probably doesn't need to say much to win some votes!:
"During the course of this Parliament the Government has put measures in place to increase youth productivity"
http://www.somersetguardian.co.uk/North ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is it just me or is there something very wrong about that statement? I have an image now of Rees-Mogg with whip poised above the backs of our poor unproductive youth as they build a Rees-Mogg like sphinx on workfare. Help!

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:22 pm
by TheGrimSqueaker
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Tim Fenton ‏@zelo_street 8m8 minutes ago
I have caught a well-known pundit telling another particularly nasty lie about Ed #Miliband. You will enjoy this one #later
What's the betting it's Toadmeister, via the same source as on the WLFS mess?
It is Platell, yet again. :wall:

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Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:26 pm
by citizenJA
yahyah wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Good Green score there.
Yes, Ed needs to take the opportunity of that opposition leaders debate to point to the Green's policies and ask pointed questions about their costing of them.

The greens will probably respond with 'that's the politics of fear not hope, don't ask us for facts'.
There's no doubt in my mind anyone wanting what the Greens offer need to support Labour & work on representing people, training with public servants in order to learn how to effectively govern. I hope I offend no one writing this. I'm sure many may disagree. I'm offering my opinion on how to best achieve Green party goals. Don't split the vote here now. That's my advice. Nothing more.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:27 pm
by citizenJA
Good-afternoon, friends.
I love you all very much.
Rest up, enjoy the beautiful evening.
xx
cJA

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:30 pm
by ohsocynical
Willow904 wrote:Re Green candidates. I have no idea if it's students funding them, but if our constituency is anything to go by it's students who are standing for them. Ours is a Bath Uni student, studying politics and french. She has very little to say about pretty much all policy areas compared to the other candidates. Still, with Rees-Mogg coming out with charming little gems like the following, she probably doesn't need to say much to win some votes!:
"During the course of this Parliament the Government has put measures in place to increase youth productivity"
http://www.somersetguardian.co.uk/North ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is it just me or is there something very wrong about that statement? I have an image now of Rees-Mogg with whip poised above the backs of our poor unproductive youth as they build a Rees-Mogg like sphinx on workfare. Help!
It shows the deep chasm between the Tories and every day people.
I hope today's youngsters realise how social mobility and equality have been pushed back to the beginning of the twentieth century.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:47 pm
by rearofthestore
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 34m34 minutes ago

ENGLAND & WALES ONLY figures from today's Opinium poll CON 38.16% LAB 34.05% LD 7.42% UKIP 11.66% A CON to LAB swing of 3% since GE10
This suggests Conservative vote down less than 1% since 2010 (in fact 0.68%) which just does not seem to ring true to me, but of course I'm biased. Another outlier?
Edited to make sense.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:57 pm
by tinyclanger2
ohsocynical wrote:
It shows the deep chasm between the Tories and every day people.
I hope today's youngsters realise how social mobility and equality have been pushed back to the beginning of the twentieth century.
Unfortunately it appears to be a deep chasm of which a significant proportion of every day people (especially in the East, South and countryside) seem to be more or less unaware.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 6:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 11s12 seconds ago
CON take lead with Opinium
Con 36% (+3), Lab 34% (+1), Lib Dems 7% (n/c), UKIP 11% (-3), Greens 6%
Good Green score there.
Yes, Ed needs to take the opportunity of that opposition leaders debate to point to the Green's policies and ask pointed questions about their costing of them.
I wonder if the Greens are basically a "brand" and having Miliband attack them just makes them look different.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:05 pm
by LadyCentauria
ohsocynical wrote:Incredible.

http://dailydip.tv/father-and-daughter- ... t-meeting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well that's me in floods of tears. I remember seeing footage of Tansy playing with those two, at the time, when she was a little toddly thing. How very lovely :)

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:16 pm
by rebeccariots2
Mathematics probably not my strongest suit but ... 8 billion annually times 5 years = 40 billion.

Didn't the coalition recently produce a budget and legislation premised on the critical need to make 30 billions worth of cuts over the course of the next parliament?

So it's not just an unfunded promise - it's a promise that wipes out the entire 30 billions worth of cuts and leaves us needing to find a further 10 billion from somewhere.

What next - introduction of a Big Sofa Recycling Scheme so we can find all the money down the back of them and fund this nonsense?

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
rebeccariots2 wrote:Mathematics probably not my strongest suit but ... 8 billion annually times 5 years = 40 billion.

Didn't the coalition recently produce a budget and legislation premised on the critical need to make 30 billions worth of cuts over the course of the next parliament?

So it's not just an unfunded promise - it's a promise that wipes out the entire 30 billions worth of cuts and leaves us needing to find a further 10 billion from somewhere.

What next - introduction of a Big Sofa Recycling Scheme so we can find all the money down the back of them and fund this nonsense?
The OBR charter didn't prescribe cuts. It was about current spending only, so in theory you could ramp up investment.

But there's no way this extra spending could all be investment. So you're in right there's a discrepancy.

I've said for a while they've no intention of making those targets. Nothing basically happens if they miss them.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:29 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Apparently this Opinium survey had Labour ahead on its original figures, Tories only going into the lead after weightings.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:29 pm
by rebeccariots2
Blair McDougall ‏@blairmcdougall 22m22 minutes ago
"Long term sleepers within the SNP will now be activated" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -starting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … I wish all the MI5 agents would give me a break on Twitter
This goes beyond ... well it's hard to say what limit it goes beyond because things have already become so polarised and extreme in tone.

Craig Murray - if you follow the link to his blog in the above tweet - is actually saying that the Aberdeen graffiti on Tory and Labour offices is part of an MI5 plot to discredit the SNP ................. and the Faisal Islam incident strengthens his view so.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:32 pm
by mbc1955
rebeccariots2 wrote:Mathematics probably not my strongest suit but ... 8 billion annually times 5 years = 40 billion.

Didn't the coalition recently produce a budget and legislation premised on the critical need to make 30 billions worth of cuts over the course of the next parliament?

So it's not just an unfunded promise - it's a promise that wipes out the entire 30 billions worth of cuts and leaves us needing to find a further 10 billion from somewhere.

What next - introduction of a Big Sofa Recycling Scheme so we can find all the money down the back of them and fund this nonsense?
It's just lies, all of it lies, coming from people who really do believe that we are far too stupid to recognise lies when we hear them, that we are just too uneducated and in thrall to their evident superiority that we will swallow any kind of b***sh*t just because it comes from their mouths. Another four weeks of this condescension and patronisation and I for one swill be at the point that simply tipping them out of power will not be enough, I will want a root and branch eradication of their entire class. Literally.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:42 pm
by Rebecca
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Blair McDougall ‏@blairmcdougall 22m22 minutes ago
"Long term sleepers within the SNP will now be activated" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -starting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … I wish all the MI5 agents would give me a break on Twitter
This goes beyond ... well it's hard to say what limit it goes beyond because things have already become so polarised and extreme in tone.

Craig Murray - if you follow the link to his blog in the above tweet - is actually saying that the Aberdeen graffiti on Tory and Labour offices is part of an MI5 plot to discredit the SNP ................. and the Faisal Islam incident strengthens his view so.
Bunch of crazies.Murray thinks that the Q for quisling points away from the Nat's,it's not a word they use.
Time he read btl at the guardian and Scotsman,traitor,quisling,cringer are their favourite words.
And they are all lapping it up.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 7:50 pm
by ohsocynical
Do you know, just listening to Eric Pickles makes my skin crawl. Not what he's saying. His voice.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:03 pm
by ohsocynical
RobertSnozers wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Do you know, just listening to Eric Pickles makes my skin crawl. Not what he's saying. His voice.
Oleaginous.
Exactly...Yuk.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:07 pm
by ohsocynical
LadyCentauria wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Incredible.

http://dailydip.tv/father-and-daughter- ... t-meeting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Well that's me in floods of tears. I remember seeing footage of Tansy playing with those two, at the time, when she was a little toddly thing. How very lovely :)
They sniffed her, recognised her from her smell. Incredible.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:08 pm
by rearofthestore
More reasons to suspect Opinium poll
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 34m34 minutes ago

Fieldwork for tonight's Opinium poll took place before latest YouGov poll & at exactly same as Populus & Survation which both had LAB leads
and
Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 33m33 minutes ago

What's really weird is totally different leader approval ratings between Opinium & Survation. Former DC 16% ahead: latter had Ed in lead
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Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:12 pm
by LadyCentauria
refitman wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:There're an awful lot of Prime Ministers mooching about the place today.
I see what you mean.

What happens next ?

.... Adam .....!
S'me! Will have to look at the thresholds (might be some demotions). That or someone is going to become SoS for the Milky Way :?
That or devolution-to-the-regions (with full regional parliaments) – or ennoblement...

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:14 pm
by AngryAsWell
Labour pledges huge fines on tax avoiders to raise £7.5bn a year

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Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:15 pm
by PorFavor
RobertSnozers wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Do you know, just listening to Eric Pickles makes my skin crawl. Not what he's saying. His voice.
Oleaginous.
Slick Pickles.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:23 pm
by tinyclanger2
Am having me tea.

Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:26 pm
by AngryAsWell
When @thetimes publish this you know your campaign isn't going well!! #GE2015 "

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Re: Sat 11 and Sun 12 April

Posted: Sat 11 Apr, 2015 8:28 pm
by PorFavor
Goodnight, everyone.