Re: sat 25 and sun 26 April
Posted: Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:10 pm
True, ohsocynical, but at what cost to the country?ohsocynical wrote:... Mediocrity has finally caught up with him.
True, ohsocynical, but at what cost to the country?ohsocynical wrote:... Mediocrity has finally caught up with him.
You're in my thoughts, comrade. Give my love to your family.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
All the best, Ernst.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
Nick Clegg’s rules on coalition-building are ‘absurd’, says constitutional expert
Lib Dem leader is wrong to question the legitimacy of a government formed by the second-largest party in parliament, says Professor Vernon Bogdanor
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_tw
Chris Mason @ChrisMasonBBC 24m24 minutes ago
BREAKING: Labour say rent increases in the private sector would be capped so that they couldn't rise by more than inflation.
See mine up there /|\Spacedone wrote:Chris Mason @ChrisMasonBBC 24m24 minutes ago
BREAKING: Labour say rent increases in the private sector would be capped so that they couldn't rise by more than inflation.
Wishing you well.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
Lord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 18s19 seconds ago
YouGov/SundayTimes poll LAB 34% CON 32% UKIP 14% LDEM 9% GRN 6%
Good.rearofthestore wrote:Third night on the run Labour lead by 2 on YouGovLord Ashcroft @LordAshcroft 18s19 seconds ago
YouGov/SundayTimes poll LAB 34% CON 32% UKIP 14% LDEM 9% GRN 6%
utopiandreams wrote:True, ohsocynical, but at what cost to the country?ohsocynical wrote:... Mediocrity has finally caught up with him.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 3m3 minutes ago
First sign of proper Tory jitters this evening in Sunday Times. Two donors on the record denouncing the campaign, Cam and calling for Boris
Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs
Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet
http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What a bunch of complete and utter losers.AngryAsWell wrote:Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs
Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet
http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exposing UKIP IMP @SLATUKIP · 2m2 minutes ago
Kent National Front threatening Labour canvassers in Broadstairs Kent " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
I think this is what I blame the Conservatives for more than anything else. They've unleashed the ugly side of our country and are willing to do anything, even tie up with UKIP to stay in power.Spacedone wrote:What a bunch of complete and utter losers.AngryAsWell wrote:Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs
Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet
http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exposing UKIP IMP @SLATUKIP · 2m2 minutes ago
Kent National Front threatening Labour canvassers in Broadstairs Kent " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
What are these people on? Ohso's right, it's the vileness that these people take as normal, and go on to stir up amongst the rest of us that's so profoundly sickening.AngryAsWell wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Tory council candidate: I’d never support ‘the Jew’ Miliband
http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/exclusive-t ... -miliband/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jesus Christ. Suddenly we've got the abdication which took place in the thirties, and now WW2 bombing.AngryAsWell wrote:Tory Minister Eric Pickles compares Labour’s rent plans to bombing of cities
Eric Pickles
✔ @EricPickles
Rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city except for bombing http://bit.ly/1z0Oc59" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Lindbeck
http://labourlist.org/2015/04/tory-mini ... of-cities/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Love the sub-headline...English voters would not accept the legitimacy of an alliance.rearofthestore wrote:Tonight's Mail on Sunday headline the most ludicrous yet
and again to cheer us upTim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 3m3 minutes ago
First sign of proper Tory jitters this evening in Sunday Times. Two donors on the record denouncing the campaign, Cam and calling for Boris
I really truly don't bother about the polls now, they are fixed.tinyclanger2 wrote:YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 32%, LAB 34%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
Opinium/Observer – CON 34%, LAB 33%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%, GRN 6% (tabs)
Survation/Mail on Sunday – CON 33%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 18%, GRN 4% (tabs)
Not sure how these compare to others?
Jitters - what jitters? They're all pulling together for the country and Dave ... my arse.Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Third donor: "Everyone knows what is going to happen in 10 days’ time. If Dave doesn’t make it we’ll get rid of him.”
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
2010 Tories looking for a “clean skin” think Dominic Raab could run an “insurgent” campaign emphasising social mobility.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
MPs received calls last week on behalf of Andrea Leadsom, who is attracting leadership backing from eurosceptic donors.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Ministers & MPs have urged Nicky Morgan to run as a modernising candidate who can appeal to non Tories. See SundayTimes
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Several ministers have been sounding out colleagues about leadership bids this week. See Sunday Times.Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Fmr Tory minister: "There won’t be a coronation. There will be nearly as many entries as the grand national, with a similar casualty rate”
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory official sounded out at least two other donors about Cameron stepping aside after polling day so Boris could fight a second election.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor H.Osmond on Boris "If there's going to be a new leader of the Tory party if they don’t win you’d really have to give Boris a go"Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Hugh Osmond on leadership: "I don’t really know what they believe. They are masters of expediency rather than genuine belief.”
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Hugh Osmond: "I don’t find either of the campaigns the slightest bit inspiring. They are utterly cynical"
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Hugh Osmond, who leads private equity firm Sun Capital partners: “What would a Cameron UK really look like? I’ve just no idea."
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Peter Hall on Boris: "He does have an emotional connection with the public at large. They do sense his Churchillian spirit"
Have they had their hands over their ears when Nick Clegg has been speaking?‘Disgraceful’ Tory attacks on the SNP are endangering union, say top Lib Dems
Attempts to woo Ukip voters by demonising Scottish nationalists will backfire, say Danny Alexander and David Steel
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... avid-steel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Claims Vince Cable.'Yes, I know,' he shrugs, acknowledging the apparent contradiction, 'I've spent my whole political life fighting the Conservatives.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3YMZEJHLc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All the best to you, Ernst.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
Sounds like a jolly atmosphere in the pub tonight then. At least you've got one thing to thank and remember Cameron for ...Hobiejoe wrote:At the risk of sounding flippant, I'd like to say "good evening all".
Good evening all.
Maintaining the laser-focus on politics that I'm renowned for, and using the statistically and empirically bomb-proof technique of Listening To People In My Pub, I can report that Dave has indeed made a connection with the ordinary voter with his devotion to the game with the round ball. Just not the connection he was hoping for.
Even his most diligent apologist had nothing. People, generally of a C/conservative persuasion, who hadn't heard the story (more, I've no doubt, than if Ed had made the same gaffe. Sorry about the grammar - I boldly introduced Sprog 1 to the original Star Trek last night) were openly laughing.
As I mentioned obliquely last night when talking about a wager on a Labour majority in amongst the rest of my tittle-tattle, the feeling that the background sussuration on social media, the hedging of bets in the the BBC as, perhaps, they'll take Pascal's wager, is all in Labour's favour, but this is just gut-instinct conjecture with a provenance as sound as a prediction of the date of "crossover" from the lately lamented NickyB.
*edited* It's late, I've been here since midday, and buggerit. There's an " 'll " added, and a couple of other nips'n'tucks. Hope my brackets are up to snuff.
Hello all.LadyCentauria wrote:All the best to you, Ernst.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
Just to clarify - I mean I have known, seen, and been subject to trolling elsewhere, not on here.Tizme1 wrote:Hello all.LadyCentauria wrote:All the best to you, Ernst.ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
Firstly - best wishes to you Ernst. Thinking of you.
Thank you LadyC for your responses to my comments last night. With regards copyright etc, it's not an area I know a great deal about but I understand that at times, the current laws work against the artist and in favour of large corporations. Broadly speaking, it's that which the Green Party want to address. As I said, it's not in the manifesto because there is so much more work to be done first to make sure we get it right.
Thanks also for your other comments. With hindsight, I think it was just an unfortunate coincidence of timing. I don't actually have any problem with going 'off topic'. On the contrary, I think it helps to keep forums more 'real' and civilised. I have known, seen, and indeed been subject to, some horrific 'trolling' in the past so anything that keeps things 'civilised' is vital imo.
As to football - my dears, it is a matter of life and death! Well, at least while the match is being played. I've been a gooner since I was about 8. Well, I think I'm a gooner. Could be Brentford I guess............ Meanwhile, having lived here for many years now, I do keep a 'fond eye' on how Watford are doing so of course today was a good day. Well except in political terms it will help the Dotty Mare's campaign.
Anyway, I was focussing on various campaign things earlier and deliberately ignoring social media and news outlets so I could deal with some quite tricky problems. Having done the necessary 'trouble shooting', I started checking news etc and saw the Daily Mail headline. Seriously? Have I slipped suddenly into some totally dystopian alternative universe? It will be worse than Hitler and WW2 if we don't *ahem* democratically elect the government that Dacre and co desire? What frigging planet are these people on? Worse still, what frigging planet are the people who intend to vote Tory on? I don't mean the '1%' - I mean the ordinary people who will vote Tory. The Turkeys voting for..............
*chuckle*Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.
I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking
I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.Tizme1 wrote:*chuckle*Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.
I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking
No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?
Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.Hobiejoe wrote:I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.Tizme1 wrote:*chuckle*Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.
I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking
No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?
Ah, but do you knit trees and hug spaghetti? 'Cause that would be really impressive.Tizme1 wrote:Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.Hobiejoe wrote:I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.Tizme1 wrote: *chuckle*
No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?
Yes. But only when I'm drinking yoghurt, wearing sandals, and living in a yurt.refitman wrote:Ah, but do you knit trees and hug spaghetti? 'Cause that would be really impressive.Tizme1 wrote:Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.Hobiejoe wrote: I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.