FlyTheNest

ohsocynical wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:

ohsocynical wrote: I honestly don't know. I know they've slung out people that lost their papers...But it was quite casual back then. I was English and we were married over here. It was all that was needed...Thought it would be on record forever, so washing a bit of paper wasn't a problem...Might need to get professional advice.

Sorry I just meant is it likely that Mr Ohso would behave himself.
A vain attempt at lightheartedness in a maelstrom of palava.

Mr Ohso had better behave himself

Remembering back. He was in the USAF at Greenham Common. He got discharged over here in Nov 1964, which took a bit of doing because most troops went back to the States for discharge. We couldn't afford his air fare back and there was no law against it, so after advice from the American Embassy, he managed.
The day after his discharge, he rang the DHSS, who issued him with a NI number no questions asked. He went to our doctor who took him on and told him how to get his NHS number, and that was it. He was at work a week later and apart from a few weeks out with an arthritic back in the seventies, worked until he was 73 and has paid income tax to her Maj for all that time without a murmur. He's never had so much as a parking ticket, so he's an upstanding citizen.

The problem is the rules now don't seem to take stuff like that into account.

rebeccariots2 wrote:I see Ed Balls has been very gracious, self reflective and critical in his interview / statement re withdrawing from politics. Wish more were like that.

citizenJA wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote: Sorry I just meant is it likely that Mr Ohso would behave himself.
A vain attempt at lightheartedness in a maelstrom of palava.

Mr Ohso had better behave himself

Remembering back. He was in the USAF at Greenham Common. He got discharged over here in Nov 1964, which took a bit of doing because most troops went back to the States for discharge. We couldn't afford his air fare back and there was no law against it, so after advice from the American Embassy, he managed.
The day after his discharge, he rang the DHSS, who issued him with a NI number no questions asked. He went to our doctor who took him on and told him how to get his NHS number, and that was it. He was at work a week later and apart from a few weeks out with an arthritic back in the seventies, worked until he was 73 and has paid income tax to her Maj for all that time without a murmur. He's never had so much as a parking ticket, so he's an upstanding citizen.

The problem is the rules now don't seem to take stuff like that into account.

Hang on, Ohso, he's lived so long in this country I seem to recall the rules still allowing people with decades of residence in the UK here legally, under the rules at the time of his arrival...let me do some research & post back to you. I wouldn't worry.

ohsocynical wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

ohsocynical wrote: Mr Ohso had better behave himself

Remembering back. He was in the USAF at Greenham Common. He got discharged over here in Nov 1964, which took a bit of doing because most troops went back to the States for discharge. We couldn't afford his air fare back and there was no law against it, so after advice from the American Embassy, he managed.
The day after his discharge, he rang the DHSS, who issued him with a NI number no questions asked. He went to our doctor who took him on and told him how to get his NHS number, and that was it. He was at work a week later and apart from a few weeks out with an arthritic back in the seventies, worked until he was 73 and has paid income tax to her Maj for all that time without a murmur. He's never had so much as a parking ticket, so he's an upstanding citizen.

The problem is the rules now don't seem to take stuff like that into account.

Hang on, Ohso, he's lived so long in this country I seem to recall the rules still allowing people with decades of residence in the UK here legally, under the rules at the time of his arrival...let me do some research & post back to you. I wouldn't worry.

I haven't properly delved into all the conditions yet. Mr Ohso's blood pressure is so bad, I'm having to get it straight in my head before I get him filling in the forms...And I have to order the book of questions and answers so he can sit the citizen ship test
Oh joy!!!!

frightful_oik wrote:Tap, tap! Helloooo, anybody here?
Guys and gals, it saddens me when we have little flare-ups on here. I hope that those who have gone return asap.
A few little tips...
- there's no bonus point for having the last word
- oddly enough, not everyone agrees with you - I'm told there are those who think notts forest aren't a laughing stock
- once you resort to personal abuse, you're starting to lose the argument (yeah, I know, hark at him)
- we have more that unites us than divides us; we all loathe the Tories, (I hope!)
- 'sorry' doesn't take long to type
- this is a great place, please don't spoil it
- read your post before you press send just in case you could word something a bit better. It's the arguments that matter, not the personalities.

Maybe the mods can get that 'friend and foe' stuff working sometime so that you can ignore someone if they annoy you. PS you don't need to tell them you've ignored them.

Mary Creagh was disappointing tonight I thought. Not Kendallesque but not good either. Serwotka was very good as usual except he supported the licence fee for all the wrong reasons.

citizenJA wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

citizenJA wrote:Hang on, Ohso, he's lived so long in this country I seem to recall the rules still allowing people with decades of residence in the UK here legally, under the rules at the time of his arrival...let me do some research & post back to you. I wouldn't worry.

I haven't properly delved into all the conditions yet. Mr Ohso's blood pressure is so bad, I'm having to get it straight in my head before I get him filling in the forms...And I have to order the book of questions and answers so he can sit the citizen ship test
Oh joy!!!!

Life in the UK test? Is that what you mean? He won't have to take that. He's been here so long it's waived. I'm almost positive that's correct. However, I'll follow up & let you know.

ohsocynical wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:Tap, tap! Helloooo, anybody here?
Guys and gals, it saddens me when we have little flare-ups on here. I hope that those who have gone return asap.
A few little tips...
- there's no bonus point for having the last word
- oddly enough, not everyone agrees with you - I'm told there are those who think notts forest aren't a laughing stock
- once you resort to personal abuse, you're starting to lose the argument (yeah, I know, hark at him)
- we have more that unites us than divides us; we all loathe the Tories, (I hope!)
- 'sorry' doesn't take long to type
- this is a great place, please don't spoil it
- read your post before you press send just in case you could word something a bit better. It's the arguments that matter, not the personalities.

Maybe the mods can get that 'friend and foe' stuff working sometime so that you can ignore someone if they annoy you. PS you don't need to tell them you've ignored them.

Mary Creagh was disappointing tonight I thought. Not Kendallesque but not good either. Serwotka was very good as usual except he supported the licence fee for all the wrong reasons.

Beautifully put. Even the bit about Notts Forest, but I reserve the right to insult Dave, Conservatives en masse and UKIP.

ohsocynical wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

ohsocynical wrote: I haven't properly delved into all the conditions yet. Mr Ohso's blood pressure is so bad, I'm having to get it straight in my head before I get him filling in the forms...And I have to order the book of questions and answers so he can sit the citizen ship test
Oh joy!!!!

Life in the UK test? Is that what you mean? He won't have to take that. He's been here so long it's waived. I'm almost positive that's correct. However, I'll follow up & let you know.

Oooh. That'll be welcome news. The book costs £12.99. Good job I'd left ordering it for a day or two.

I must take the 31 sheet of print out, sit, read and digest.

ohsocynical wrote: I have to order the book of questions and answers so he can sit the citizen ship test
Oh joy!!!!

ohsocynical wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:Tap, tap! Helloooo, anybody here?
Guys and gals, it saddens me when we have little flare-ups on here. I hope that those who have gone return asap.
A few little tips...
- there's no bonus point for having the last word
- oddly enough, not everyone agrees with you - I'm told there are those who think notts forest aren't a laughing stock
- once you resort to personal abuse, you're starting to lose the argument (yeah, I know, hark at him)
- we have more that unites us than divides us; we all loathe the Tories, (I hope!)
- 'sorry' doesn't take long to type
- this is a great place, please don't spoil it
- read your post before you press send just in case you could word something a bit better. It's the arguments that matter, not the personalities.

Maybe the mods can get that 'friend and foe' stuff working sometime so that you can ignore someone if they annoy you. PS you don't need to tell them you've ignored them.

Mary Creagh was disappointing tonight I thought. Not Kendallesque but not good either. Serwotka was very good as usual except he supported the licence fee for all the wrong reasons.

Beautifully put. Even the bit about Notts Forest, but I reserve the right to insult Dave, Conservatives en masse and UKIP.

ohsocynical wrote:
I have to add, he only decided to go for citizenship yesterday evening, so if I seem a little disorganised it's because it's a bit 'soon'.

Jon Swindon ‏@swindon81 4 hrs4 hours ago

This takes the biscuit. Knighting of Eric Pickles prompts anger in Merseyside. #ToriesOutNow

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... ar_twitter

letsskiptotheleft wrote:I just done a post, quoted Rebecca and it come up under her name!

No idea how it happened, sorry. Think I better go to bed?

rebeccariots2 wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:Tap, tap! Helloooo, anybody here?
Guys and gals, it saddens me when we have little flare-ups on here. I hope that those who have gone return asap.
A few little tips...
- there's no bonus point for having the last word
- oddly enough, not everyone agrees with you - I'm told there are those who think notts forest aren't a laughing stock
- once you resort to personal abuse, you're starting to lose the argument (yeah, I know, hark at him)
- we have more that unites us than divides us; we all loathe the Tories, (I hope!)
- 'sorry' doesn't take long to type
- this is a great place, please don't spoil it
- read your post before you press send just in case you could word something a bit better. It's the arguments that matter, not the personalities.

Maybe the mods can get that 'friend and foe' stuff working sometime so that you can ignore someone if they annoy you. PS you don't need to tell them you've ignored them.

Mary Creagh was disappointing tonight I thought. Not Kendallesque but not good either. Serwotka was very good as usual except he supported the licence fee for all the wrong reasons.

Beautifully put. Even the bit about Notts Forest, but I reserve the right to insult Dave, Conservatives en masse and UKIP.

Consider those rights well and truly reserved Ohso.

Creagh ... found myself actually shouting at the radio 'it's not just working people ... why can't we be a party for people, just people?' after she kept referring to working people. I'm so fed up of politicians behaving like dolls that come out with pre-programmed sentences and phrases when you pull a cord or press a button ...

tinyclanger2 wrote:I don't have a family so I'm completely ****ed with respect to being considered relevant by a political party.

frightful_oik wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:I don't have a family so I'm completely ****ed with respect to being considered relevant by a political party.

You think you've got it bad? I'm a lazy slob as well. I'm dead to them.

RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all...a blast from the past.

6 Apr 2015 10:43
16 Recommend
So have the LibDems properly owned up yet to leaking the Sturgeon meeting note yet?

Carmichael's "Well, these things happen in elections" nonsense that's about as good an admission of "It's a fair cop - you've got us bang to rights" as we're likely to see.

Motive and opportunity - the basis for most crime.

Well.I.Never.

The Cabinet Secretary Sir Jeremy Haywood concluded that there was no reason to doubt that the civil servant recorded accurately what he thought he had heard.
The report said: "Senior officials who have worked with him say that he is reliable and has no history of inaccurate reporting, impropriety or security lapses.
"The Cabinet Secretary has concluded that there is no reason to doubt that he recorded accurately what he thought he had heard. There is no evidence of any political motivation or 'dirty tricks'."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-32849065

AnatolyKasparov wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:Morning all. I haven't done any politics yet today; a bit preoccupied with the manager situation at DCFC. What a saga!

At least you don't support Leeds

David Maddox ‏@DavidPBMaddox 17m17 minutes ago
Welsh assembly members will receive a £10,000 pay rise...do these people have no public awareness? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-32829015" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

tinyclanger2 wrote:I don't have a family so I'm completely ****ed with respect to being considered relevant by a political party.

LadyCentauria wrote:BBC article says NHS Trust's deficits have risen to £822m in the financial year 2014/15, rising from 'only' £115m in the previous year. The Department of Health says that Trusts need 'to get better at balancing the books' but the regulator says the coming year's figures are likely to get worse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-32846545

Andy Burnham MP, Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary, responding to figures showing NHS Trusts in England have reported a total deficit of £822 million, said:

“This report confirms a growing crisis in the NHS on David Cameron’s watch.

“People will wonder how the Prime Minister can possibly pay for his new round of NHS promises when hospitals are sinking into ever-deeper debt now.

“Without more money this year and next, the NHS will have to brace itself for a round of severe cuts to staffing, beds and services.

“David Cameron was not straight with people at the election on the scale of the problems facing the NHS. With services going backwards and hospitals in financial crisis, it is patients who will pay the price. Rather than empty promises, the Prime Minister must urgently produce a plan to sort out the problems he has caused.”

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1196061 ... cit-of-822" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Eric_WLothian wrote:

RogerOThornhill wrote:Evening all...a blast from the past.

6 Apr 2015 10:43
16 Recommend
So have the LibDems properly owned up yet to leaking the Sturgeon meeting note yet?

Carmichael's "Well, these things happen in elections" nonsense that's about as good an admission of "It's a fair cop - you've got us bang to rights" as we're likely to see.

Motive and opportunity - the basis for most crime.

Well.I.Never.

The wording of Sir Jeremy Heywood's report is interesting:

The Cabinet Secretary Sir Jeremy Haywood concluded that there was no reason to doubt that the civil servant recorded accurately what he thought he had heard.
The report said: "Senior officials who have worked with him say that he is reliable and has no history of inaccurate reporting, impropriety or security lapses.
"The Cabinet Secretary has concluded that there is no reason to doubt that he recorded accurately what he thought he had heard. There is no evidence of any political motivation or 'dirty tricks'."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-32849065

It would seem to suggest that there is at least a strong possibility that the memo was accurate but the Cabinet Secretary doesn't want to waste any more time on it.

ohsocynical wrote:

frightful_oik wrote:

tinyclanger2 wrote:I don't have a family so I'm completely ****ed with respect to being considered relevant by a political party.

You think you've got it bad? I'm a lazy slob as well. I'm dead to them.

I've had to work hard, and have a family, but don't fit into the narrative. I've always believed in stopping to smell the daisies and that making money shouldn't be the be all and end all of our spell on earth.
Now I'm approaching my 71st birthday it has even more relevance. Believe me. Life's far too short.

rebeccariots2 wrote:So two weeks after the election. Growth forecasts slashed. Migration figures doubled. Massive increase in hospital trust deficits.

Long term economic plan.

LadyCentauria wrote:@Ohso Thanks for the great post you put up about aspiration, I really appreciated it.

Very much appreciated @frightful_oik's post about finding ways to maintain harmony here, too. And if the Friend/Foe controls would act as the equivalent of an 'ignore' button, that could certainly be helpful. I hope I'd never feel the need to press it, 'though!

And, @Tizme: Delicious cakes, thank you so much /talking-with-mouth-full

Secret Bank of England taskforce investigates financial fallout of Brexit
News of undercover project emerges after Bank staff accidentally email details to the Guardian including PR notes on how to deny its existence

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... out-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bank of England officials are secretly researching the financial shocks that could hit Britain if there is a vote to leave the European Union in the forthcoming referendum.

The Bank blew its cover on Friday when it accidentally emailed details of the project – including how the bank intended to fend off any inquiries about its work – direct to the Guardian.

According to the confidential email, the press and most staff in Threadneedle Street must be kept in the dark about the work underway, which has been dubbed Project Bookend.

citizenJA wrote:

Secret Bank of England taskforce investigates financial fallout of Brexit
News of undercover project emerges after Bank staff accidentally email details to the Guardian including PR notes on how to deny its existence

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... out-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good god what now.

Bank of England officials are secretly researching the financial shocks that could hit Britain if there is a vote to leave the European Union in the forthcoming referendum.

The Bank blew its cover on Friday when it accidentally emailed details of the project – including how the bank intended to fend off any inquiries about its work – direct to the Guardian.

According to the confidential email, the press and most staff in Threadneedle Street must be kept in the dark about the work underway, which has been dubbed Project Bookend.

Edited to add the beginning paragraphs.
????
Sounds like a bad novel.

citizenJA wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

frightful_oik wrote: You think you've got it bad? I'm a lazy slob as well. I'm dead to them.

I've had to work hard, and have a family, but don't fit into the narrative. I've always believed in stopping to smell the daisies and that making money shouldn't be the be all and end all of our spell on earth.
Now I'm approaching my 71st birthday it has even more relevance. Believe me. Life's far too short.

Beautifully said.
We only get the one life.
It's not a theory.
I like your stories.

Mr. Ohso's requirements for UK citizenship will be based upon when he arrived in the UK.
In 1964 (?), those rules weren't as rigorous as they are currently. At all. I'll research more like I promised though. But I didn't want either one of you fretting at all.

citizenJA wrote:

Secret Bank of England taskforce investigates financial fallout of Brexit
News of undercover project emerges after Bank staff accidentally email details to the Guardian including PR notes on how to deny its existence

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... out-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good god what now.

Bank of England officials are secretly researching the financial shocks that could hit Britain if there is a vote to leave the European Union in the forthcoming referendum.

The Bank blew its cover on Friday when it accidentally emailed details of the project – including how the bank intended to fend off any inquiries about its work – direct to the Guardian.

According to the confidential email, the press and most staff in Threadneedle Street must be kept in the dark about the work underway, which has been dubbed Project Bookend.

Edited to add the beginning paragraphs.
????
Sounds like a bad novel.

RogerOThornhill wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

Secret Bank of England taskforce investigates financial fallout of Brexit
News of undercover project emerges after Bank staff accidentally email details to the Guardian including PR notes on how to deny its existence

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... out-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good god what now.

Bank of England officials are secretly researching the financial shocks that could hit Britain if there is a vote to leave the European Union in the forthcoming referendum.

The Bank blew its cover on Friday when it accidentally emailed details of the project – including how the bank intended to fend off any inquiries about its work – direct to the Guardian.

According to the confidential email, the press and most staff in Threadneedle Street must be kept in the dark about the work underway, which has been dubbed Project Bookend.

Edited to add the beginning paragraphs.
????
Sounds like a bad novel.

I'd be considerably more shocked if they hadn't started to research this. they're not amateurs - they'll have papers written for every alternative scenario that comes along.