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Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:34 pm
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:
Ooh, I don't know Ryan...maybe because they're coming from a cabinet member talking about millions of workers while the other is a few hotheads impacting on about half a dozen people?
have you noticed that the frothing right seem far more interested about what's going on outside the conference than about what's going on inside?
The high-pitched squealing sound of a Tory apologist is as offensive as Tory Hunt's work hard will make you free noise.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:36 pm
by citizenJA
TechnicalEphemera wrote:HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.
They must be doing something right.
Why would I believe polls?
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Nobody does bat shit crazy quite like the Republican primaries.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 80806.html
Yep atheist crisps. That's where it's at.
Campaign to the base, then spend the general election trying to present yourself as a moderate before losing to the mainstream Democrat because you can't disown your statements in the primaries.
(Although La Clinton isn't a great candidate).
The party big wigs have lost control of the process. It's the downside of having a very motivated base who win you lots of governorships and House seats.
I'm not an expert on American politics, but the Republicans do fairly well out of the whole nonsense, even with the problem they have with the presidency.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
TechnicalEphemera wrote:HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.
They must be doing something right.
And well placed to do it again, with a very high number of SNP MPs returning in 2020.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:40 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
There should be actual GDP figures for capital investment somewhere. How do they look?
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:45 pm
by TechnicalEphemera
citizenJA wrote:TechnicalEphemera wrote:HindleA wrote:Struck,not for the first time,and no doubt not the last;how incredibly stupid our supposed betters are.
Sadly they aren't that stupid. They won in 2015 and are nailed on to win in 2020 with a huge majority, if you believe the polls.
They must be doing something right.
Why would I believe polls?
Because they are the best data out there on what people are thinking. And because they are inaccurate, but they aren't that inaccurate.
The results in May will be a reality check for some (although if Labour start winning councils all over the south of England I will be happy to concede my perception of reality is skewed).
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ki ... ns%2C_2016" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Labour are well placed already in lots of the places in England with local elections next year.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On investment, worth recalling what the IFS said. 2009 (albeit with some investment brought forward by Darling) saw the highest level of government investment since 1975.
I'll venture that's not been surpassed, even nearly so.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Mon 05 Oct, 2015 11:59 pm
by TechnicalEphemera
So they should make large advances in all those councils in marginal seats then. However I rather suspect they won't. In fact I suspect in large areas they will go backwards, possibly quite markedly. However I am quite prepared to be wrong.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:00 am
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:02 am
by LadyCentauria
John West tuna is not as wildlife friendly as it promised to be. Only 2% of its tuna is caught by 'pole and line', and is 'aggregated' in with the net-catch, which can (and does) catch up dolphin, shark, and turtles, amongst other sea-life. John West is now owned by a Thai company. Sorry this is behind a paywall:
Britain’s biggest tinned tuna supplier has secretly gone back on a promise to save dolphins, sharks and turtles from its fishing nets.
In 2011 John West Foods committed to catching at least half of its British tuna by the “pole and line” method — a sustainable technique that minimises the risk of other species becoming trapped in the nets — by the end of last year.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environme ... 577368.ece
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:03 am
by LadyCentauria
citizenJA wrote:Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA
Goodnight
cJA. Dream sweetly. x
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:10 am
by danesclose
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
So they should make large advances in all those councils in marginal seats then. However I rather suspect they won't. In fact I suspect in large areas they will go backwards, possibly quite markedly. However I am quite prepared to be wrong.
And if they don't make those gains, 4.5 years from the next election, it will be the fault of ......?
And if Labour had elected ..... as leader they would be making these gains?
Please feel free to fill in the blanks
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:13 am
by Tubby Isaacs
They already control the council in lots of marginal seats.
Corbyn will have to do well to match where they are now.
Re: Monday 5th October 2015
Posted: Tue 06 Oct, 2015 12:25 am
by HindleA
Quadruple sigh.