FlyTheNest

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:So, we were discussing rebuttals earlier on today ........

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 72313.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I like Sadiq Khan. Giving people like Burnham and Khan more opportunity to speak out won't do Labour's prospects any harm at all.

I do as well. I live in London, and would benefit directly from him being mayor, but I think he needs to be right in one of the big 4 government/shadow jobs.

Mind you, if he keeps Abbott or Jowel away from the job....

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm pleased that we've got new posters here - rather than the spambots we've been getting - but I get a horrible feeling that the political antennae of the newest posters isn't quite as sharply developed as some of the more established contributors.

I think it is difficult for some of us Newbies: Firstly, we don't know you and you do seem to know each other quite well so we have to find our feet. Secondly, it is clearly left-wing and I don't have a problem with that, I am a committed and active socialist, probably more so than the current leader of the Labour Party which I left in 1998 having worked very hard to get it elected only to realise that the prefix "New" meant "Not Really". Lastly, I hope no-one is put off joining by the idea that they may not have sharply developed political antennae - I don't want to discuss politics day in and day out but I care deeply. I have a history severe depression to such a point that I led myself and my children into homelessness due to my incapacity to deal with what was happening. Sometimes I am so depressed and anxious about what the tories propose if they're elected again I just think that if they are I don't want to/can't live through it again. In that case, I go light and silly, talk about something and anything else. Sometimes I just can't stare at black and shout into an abyss. I hope you can understand that.
(I don't think there's an appropriate emoticon for not feeling terribly welcome right now but glad you're here anyway.)

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Riot at HMP Swaleside.

rebeccariots2 wrote:This has nothing to do with politics.

We've had to take one of the dogs to the vets today ... weeing in her bed at night and drinking an awful lot. (Think she'll be OK - not clear what it is yet - but we're hoping it's not serious and we won't be taking an incontinent dog with us when we do our very intensive stint in the cull zone soon .... I have already checked out where the launderettes are in local Gloucestershire towns.)

While we we there the local cat fostering / rehoming lady came in with several carrier baskets containing the latest arrivals and sad stories. We know her well having brought home a small herd / job lot of homeless black cats on hearing that, apparently, no one wants black ones anymore.

One of her carriers was full of tiny black and white kittens. One had a sultry black female cat in it. And the other carrier - skawking at full pelt the entire time - contained 'Barnaby'. She told us he is with her because his owner is very very ill with a rare leukemia - that he is 10 years old and how hard it is to get people to take a cat of that age. Of course - I had to say it - I heard myself saying it - I said, how much I love older cats and how I have often had an urge to get another cat that isn't all black. She whipped off the fleecy blanket covering the carrier. Barnaby is a delicious - screeching - tortoiseshell.

I haven't succumbed yet. But difficult to forget. One to ponder.

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm pleased that we've got new posters here - rather than the spambots we've been getting - but I get a horrible feeling that the political antennae of the newest posters isn't quite as sharply developed as some of the more established contributors.

I think it is difficult for some of us Newbies: Firstly, we don't know you and you do seem to know each other quite well so we have to find our feet. Secondly, it is clearly left-wing and I don't have a problem with that, I am a committed and active socialist, probably more so than the current leader of the Labour Party which I left in 1998 having worked very hard to get it elected only to realise that the prefix "New" meant "Not Really". Lastly, I hope no-one is put off joining by the idea that they may not have sharply developed political antennae - I don't want to discuss politics day in and day out but I care deeply. I have a history severe depression to such a point that I led myself and my children into homelessness due to my incapacity to deal with what was happening. Sometimes I am so depressed and anxious about what the tories propose if they're elected again I just think that if they are I don't want to/can't live through it again. In that case, I go light and silly, talk about something and anything else. Sometimes I just can't stare at black and shout into an abyss. I hope you can understand that.
(I don't think there's an appropriate emoticon for not feeling terribly welcome right now but glad you're here anyway.)

51A wrote:Gosh, thanks for all the responses. I can't access at work so I have no idea what happens here or at the Graun daytime. Feel a bit silly and over-sensitive now.

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm pleased that we've got new posters here - rather than the spambots we've been getting - but I get a horrible feeling that the political antennae of the newest posters isn't quite as sharply developed as some of the more established contributors.

I think it is difficult for some of us Newbies: Firstly, we don't know you and you do seem to know each other quite well so we have to find our feet. Secondly, it is clearly left-wing and I don't have a problem with that, I am a committed and active socialist, probably more so than the current leader of the Labour Party which I left in 1998 having worked very hard to get it elected only to realise that the prefix "New" meant "Not Really". Lastly, I hope no-one is put off joining by the idea that they may not have sharply developed political antennae - I don't want to discuss politics day in and day out but I care deeply. I have a history severe depression to such a point that I led myself and my children into homelessness due to my incapacity to deal with what was happening. Sometimes I am so depressed and anxious about what the tories propose if they're elected again I just think that if they are I don't want to/can't live through it again. In that case, I go light and silly, talk about something and anything else. Sometimes I just can't stare at black and shout into an abyss. I hope you can understand that.
(I don't think there's an appropriate emoticon for not feeling terribly welcome right now but glad you're here anyway.)

51A wrote:Gosh, thanks for all the responses. I can't access at work so I have no idea what happens here or at the Graun daytime. Feel a bit silly and over-sensitive now.

rebeccariots2 wrote:

mbc1955 wrote:There's only two things for it: either the Tories lose the election next year or we are all going to have to get out of this country. You don't imagine the freedom to run a site like this will last all that long, do you?

Now that's an avatar I've got to ask about .... ? Yours?

mbc1955 wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote:

mbc1955 wrote:There's only two things for it: either the Tories lose the election next year or we are all going to have to get out of this country. You don't imagine the freedom to run a site like this will last all that long, do you?

Now that's an avatar I've got to ask about .... ? Yours?

Once upon a time my younger stepson's. He was called Joey. I adopted him as my internet avatar years ago.

Besides, he's more photogenic than I am!

AngryAsWell wrote:

mbc1955 wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote: Now that's an avatar I've got to ask about .... ? Yours?

Once upon a time my younger stepson's. He was called Joey. I adopted him as my internet avatar years ago.

Besides, he's more photogenic than I am!

either the Tories lose the election next year or we are all going to have to get out of this country


I'm convinced it will be a Labour landslide, but just in case, I think we should make plans to dash up to our Welsh friends and take cover in the woods and agitate for Welsh independence.

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm pleased that we've got new posters here - rather than the spambots we've been getting - but I get a horrible feeling that the political antennae of the newest posters isn't quite as sharply developed as some of the more established contributors.

I think it is difficult for some of us Newbies: Firstly, we don't know you and you do seem to know each other quite well so we have to find our feet. Secondly, it is clearly left-wing and I don't have a problem with that, I am a committed and active socialist, probably more so than the current leader of the Labour Party which I left in 1998 having worked very hard to get it elected only to realise that the prefix "New" meant "Not Really". Lastly, I hope no-one is put off joining by the idea that they may not have sharply developed political antennae - I don't want to discuss politics day in and day out but I care deeply. I have a history severe depression to such a point that I led myself and my children into homelessness due to my incapacity to deal with what was happening. Sometimes I am so depressed and anxious about what the tories propose if they're elected again I just think that if they are I don't want to/can't live through it again. In that case, I go light and silly, talk about something and anything else. Sometimes I just can't stare at black and shout into an abyss. I hope you can understand that.
(I don't think there's an appropriate emoticon for not feeling terribly welcome right now but glad you're here anyway.)

rebeccariots2 wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:

mbc1955 wrote: Once upon a time my younger stepson's. He was called Joey. I adopted him as my internet avatar years ago.

Besides, he's more photogenic than I am!

either the Tories lose the election next year or we are all going to have to get out of this country


I'm convinced it will be a Labour landslide, but just in case, I think we should make plans to dash up to our Welsh friends and take cover in the woods and agitate for Welsh independence.

We'd better start building some extra compost toilets then. Just in case like.

Editing to add: I'm sure letsskip and others will happily welcome you to our 'socialist shithole' as she likes to lovingly refer to it.

The Guardian view on the Liberal Democrat conference
The coalition has taken a terrible electoral toll but the liberal voice still has vital things to say
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... conference

... what can the Liberal Democrats do to optimise their chances of the survival without which all that is merely a pipe dream? In the Guardian’s view, British politics needs the Liberal Democrats for one thing above all. It needs them to provide the parliamentary nerve of outrage against an unreformed political system and against encroachments on civil liberties which is so often dulled in the other major parties...

51A wrote:Gosh, thanks for all the responses. I can't access at work so I have no idea what happens here or at the Graun daytime. Feel a bit silly and over-sensitive now.

AngryAsWell wrote:

mbc1955 wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote: Now that's an avatar I've got to ask about .... ? Yours?

Once upon a time my younger stepson's. He was called Joey. I adopted him as my internet avatar years ago.

Besides, he's more photogenic than I am!

either the Tories lose the election next year or we are all going to have to get out of this country


I'm convinced it will be a Labour landslide, but just in case, I think we should make plans to dash up to our Welsh friends and take cover in the woods and agitate for Welsh independence.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

51A wrote:Gosh, thanks for all the responses. I can't access at work so I have no idea what happens here or at the Graun daytime. Feel a bit silly and over-sensitive now.

Don't sweat it. You've passed the first part of the initiation; the next bit is the email from the mods telling you the co-ordinates of the assault course you have to complete in a limited time before you're deemed worthy to post on FTN.

Probably worth getting into training.

rebeccariots2 wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Night PF

rebeccariots2 wrote: While we we there the local cat fostering / rehoming lady came in with several carrier baskets containing the latest arrivals and sad stories. We know her well having brought home a small herd / job lot of homeless black cats on hearing that, apparently, no one wants black ones anymore.

Why don't people want black cats? If/when I have my own place again a moggy, preferably a black one, is high on my 'wants/needs' list.

Oh, and I admire your willpower .... but how long will it last?

I can feel it weakening by the minute .... but am still trying to muster a pretence of some resistance. No idea why people don't want black cats. Ours are very distinct characters - thank goodness - but Mr Riots is useless at telling them apart unless they're up very, very close and in his face.

That's a very scary avatar BTW!

Stephen Mullen ‏@StephenMullen 23m23 minutes ago
People on #newsnight saying they've not seen their MP in 9 years so they're voting UKIP. Douglas Carswell (now UKIP) WAS their MP *facepalm*

Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Stephen Mullen ‏@StephenMullen 23m23 minutes ago
People on #newsnight saying they've not seen their MP in 9 years so they're voting UKIP. Douglas Carswell (now UKIP) WAS their MP *facepalm*

Give me strength.

RobertSnozers wrote:Hi 51A and other newcomers (proper ones, not those selling knock off DVDs or cosmetics or whatever it is they do), very nice to have you on board. Apologies for the silliness today. NickRobinson is not really Nick Robinson, it was me, sorry. I don't usually sock puppet myself

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote:

51A wrote:Gosh, thanks for all the responses. I can't access at work so I have no idea what happens here or at the Graun daytime. Feel a bit silly and over-sensitive now.

Don't sweat it. You've passed the first part of the initiation; the next bit is the email from the mods telling you the co-ordinates of the assault course you have to complete in a limited time before you're deemed worthy to post on FTN.

Probably worth getting into training.

If it's in the Beacons, no worries, I live there, I'm not scared of sheep.

ErnstRemarx wrote:

RobertSnozers wrote:Hi 51A and other newcomers (proper ones, not those selling knock off DVDs or cosmetics or whatever it is they do), very nice to have you on board. Apologies for the silliness today. NickRobinson is not really Nick Robinson, it was me, sorry. I don't usually sock puppet myself

I'm shocked. I don't believe you're "RobertSnozers" at all any more. It's a massive double bluff. You actually are Nick Robinson aren't you?

Unless that's the double bluff. You pretend to be Robert, gain our confidence and then turn up as the Nick Robinson that you genuinely were all along having strung us along by talking sense. I knew it couldn't last.

Then you pretend again that you're Robert, pretending to be Nick Robinson, pretending to be Robert, pretending to be Nick.

You must think we were born yesterday, Humphrys.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

51A wrote:

ErnstRemarx wrote: Don't sweat it. You've passed the first part of the initiation; the next bit is the email from the mods telling you the co-ordinates of the assault course you have to complete in a limited time before you're deemed worthy to post on FTN.

Probably worth getting into training.

If it's in the Beacons, no worries, I live there, I'm not scared of sheep.

Which makes you braver than my horse.

51A wrote:

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

51A wrote: If it's in the Beacons, no worries, I live there, I'm not scared of sheep.

Which makes you braver than my horse.

Aahh but make sure your horse isn't faking. I had a really naughty boy once, he would pretend to be scared of something if I was riding him, something else if someone else was riding him, We bought him off the knacker, he was beautiful and the first real "horse" I had (I had had the odd inherited pony). But he was fibber.

TechnicalEphemera wrote:

51A wrote:

TechnicalEphemera wrote: Which makes you braver than my horse.

Aahh but make sure your horse isn't faking. I had a really naughty boy once, he would pretend to be scared of something if I was riding him, something else if someone else was riding him, We bought him off the knacker, he was beautiful and the first real "horse" I had (I had had the odd inherited pony). But he was fibber.

Yep she is continually trying it on, to be fair she is only scared of killer sheep, most sheep don't bother her.

Plastic bags, portaloos and rattling trailers much more of an issue. But oddly the rattling trailer full of portaloos - meh.