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RogerOThornhill wrote:I must say that it's good to know we have an expert on here who knows which tier economists belong to in the hierarchy and isn't just dismissing someone purely on the basis of what he supports....

gilsey wrote:

SpinningHugo wrote:is signed by people from the third tier.

What's the definition of a first tier economist then? One who works for Goldman Sachs?

LadyCentauria wrote:

rebeccariots2 wrote:

Green Facebook Friend.jpg

Interesting argument being used here. And they appear to be saying they've been told by the Greens it's OK to vote in the Labour leadership.

Feasgar math, a h-uile duine

It would be helpful if either Natalie Bennett or Caroline Lucas would speak loudly and publicly against members of the Green Party signing up for and voting in the Labour Party internal elections. @Tizme1 has assured us that her party does not in any way support or encourage its members to do that, indeed she checked as far up the line as she could. Perhaps the attachmented* person's "Green Facebook Friend" is twisting things a little, or has misinterpreted something? I've trawled through the news pages on the Green Party's website in hopes of finding a clear statement from their leader (or others) on the matter but could only find two articles since the GE on anything to do with either Labour or with election processes and the two are not connected to each other:
https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2015 ... %E2%80%9D/
https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2015 ... -campaign/

Now, the first could be construed as support for Corbyn himself - "describing his rise as part of a “shift to a new political era” marked by the Green Surge and the growth of the SNP" is the tone of it, though; and the second, "cross-party-voting," could be also misinterpreted - it's about a petition organised by the Electoral Reform Society and Unlock Democracy. Mind you, it's also possible that the "GFF" either thought someone in their own local party had tipped them a wink or that someone did. I would not imagine it was the official 'internal' position to do so - it would just be an invitation to reciprocation, encouraging Labour Party members to do the same in Green Party internal elections.

*Attachmented= I couldn't work out how else to phrase it

April 2003 - When it rains it pours

Iain Duncan Smith mistook as genuine a spoof advertising campaign promoting his beleaguered party. Standing obligingly in front of the fake billboard, the Tory leader was happily pictured under the slogan "It rained less under a conservative government."

When we asked our ace Scotland-based photographer Murdo MacLeod to try to snap Iain Duncan Smith with our radical new Conservative advertising campaign, he was convinced it would be a tall order. Surely the Tory leader would stay well away from a slogan like "It rained less under a conservative government" - or at least his minders would make sure he did.
In the event, Mr Duncan Smith was rather more obliging than we could have hoped. As he pulled up outside Balfron High School near Stirling, MacLeod asked him to step in front of the poster. "He read it out loud and said something along the lines of 'I wonder who organised that?',"

utopiandreams wrote:I'm sorry but I cannot fathom why Toby Young gets the exposure that he does. Every time I see him I think, "Where are the baby wipes, does he need changing?"

"Things aren’t really all that bad. That was the message from Ivan Glasenberg, boss of Glencore, when he unveiled a sharp fall in profits at the giant commodity trader and miner last week. Glasenberg said the rout in prices for coal, copper and other raw materials had been exaggerated by hedge funds’ bets against commodities to capitalise on fears about the Chinese economy. China’s manufacturing industry is the world’s biggest user of commodities. The basics of supply and demand in China were much better than prices indicated, Glasenberg argued on Wednesday. But then a survey on Friday showed China’s factory output falling at its fastest rate for more than six years. Perfect timing, then, for BHP Billiton, the world’s biggest miner, and copper producer Antofagasta to release results on Tuesday. BHP makes about 30% of its revenues in China so investors will be agog.

Analysts expect profits to have halved to $6.6bn.
As for Antofagasta, copper is seen as a bellwether for the global economy because it is used in everything from gadgets to plumbing.

Will BHP and Antofagasta agree with Glasenberg – or are things really that bad?"

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... line-nears" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ephemerid wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

And in reverse order......god moaning, Por.

We now have a cracking (and crackling) thunderstorm overhead. I love it.
All the windows open and lovely fresh clean air on the way......

To all -
Many thanks for all the good wishes for Show.
He's up an about on sticks (they gave him a wheeled zimmer but he was such a liability they took it back) and is doing well.
Possibly home tomorrow if the consultant agrees.

(Do I want him back? On sticks? erm........)

ohsocynical wrote:

ephemerid wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

And in reverse order......god moaning, Por.

We now have a cracking (and crackling) thunderstorm overhead. I love it.
All the windows open and lovely fresh clean air on the way......

To all -
Many thanks for all the good wishes for Show.
He's up an about on sticks (they gave him a wheeled zimmer but he was such a liability they took it back) and is doing well.
Possibly home tomorrow if the consultant agrees.

(Do I want him back? On sticks? erm........)

You can threaten to kick his sticks out from under him if he's a pest...

I hope he's a better invalid than Mr Ohso. Sometimes it feels as if I'm running a kindergarten.

Tizme1 wrote:I found this article interesting and can't help but agree with the 'Labour weren't anything enough' line.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... emy-corbyn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell wrote:Trying hard not to break my vow on not commenting on the leaders, but this is so outrageous I have to post it :

Have Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall got the right look to win a leadership contest?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehous ... p-contest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SpinningHugo wrote:

AngryAsWell wrote:Trying hard not to break my vow on not commenting on the leaders, but this is so outrageous I have to post it :

Have Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall got the right look to win a leadership contest?

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehous ... p-contest/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That is unbelievable.

I have been reading Bill Keegan for decades. He always, cone what may, argued for looser monetary policy, looser fiscal policy, and a lower pound. He is right about Balls and Miliband though.

This week's piece is like the letter from the 40 economists. It praises Corbyn for arguing for investment spending (which I would endorse too) whilst not endorsing any of the rest of Corbynomics.

ohsocynical wrote:

ephemerid wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

And in reverse order......god moaning, Por.

We now have a cracking (and crackling) thunderstorm overhead. I love it.
All the windows open and lovely fresh clean air on the way......

To all -
Many thanks for all the good wishes for Show.
He's up an about on sticks (they gave him a wheeled zimmer but he was such a liability they took it back) and is doing well.
Possibly home tomorrow if the consultant agrees.

(Do I want him back? On sticks? erm........)

You can threaten to kick his sticks out from under him if he's a pest...

I hope he's a better invalid than Mr Ohso. Sometimes it feels as if I'm running a kindergarten.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:That piece in the Speccie and the "Corbyn will bring us Mad Max for real" effort in the Mail would have been rejected as satire.

Arguably *the* best thing about Jezzamania is causing so many Very - EXTREMELY - Serious People in the MSM to have a nervous breakdown

citizenJA wrote:

"Things aren’t really all that bad. That was the message from Ivan Glasenberg, boss of Glencore, when he unveiled a sharp fall in profits at the giant commodity trader and miner last week. Glasenberg said the rout in prices for coal, copper and other raw materials had been exaggerated by hedge funds’ bets against commodities to capitalise on fears about the Chinese economy. China’s manufacturing industry is the world’s biggest user of commodities. The basics of supply and demand in China were much better than prices indicated, Glasenberg argued on Wednesday. But then a survey on Friday showed China’s factory output falling at its fastest rate for more than six years. Perfect timing, then, for BHP Billiton, the world’s biggest miner, and copper producer Antofagasta to release results on Tuesday. BHP makes about 30% of its revenues in China so investors will be agog.

Analysts expect profits to have halved to $6.6bn.
As for Antofagasta, copper is seen as a bellwether for the global economy because it is used in everything from gadgets to plumbing.

Will BHP and Antofagasta agree with Glasenberg – or are things really that bad?"

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... line-nears" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(my bold)

They KNOW how desperate their policies are making people. They KNOW the consequences of their policies. They KNOW it, and they don’t care.

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

PorFavor wrote:

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

Really? And I thought that I was so good at it . . . .

PorFavor wrote:

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

Really? And I thought that I was so good at it . . . .

PorFavor wrote:" " "?

yahyah wrote:

PorFavor wrote:

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

Really? And I thought that I was so good at it . . . .

Admit it PF, you really loved pointing at fish.

ohsocynical wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

ephemerid wrote: And in reverse order......god moaning, Por.

We now have a cracking (and crackling) thunderstorm overhead. I love it.
All the windows open and lovely fresh clean air on the way......

To all -
Many thanks for all the good wishes for Show.
He's up an about on sticks (they gave him a wheeled zimmer but he was such a liability they took it back) and is doing well.
Possibly home tomorrow if the consultant agrees.

(Do I want him back? On sticks? erm........)

You can threaten to kick his sticks out from under him if he's a pest...

I hope he's a better invalid than Mr Ohso. Sometimes it feels as if I'm running a kindergarten.

That sounds awful. I am taking care of him. Honest.

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

PorFavor wrote:

yahyah wrote:

PorFavor wrote: Really? And I thought that I was so good at it . . . .

Admit it PF, you really loved pointing at fish.

Yes - and even if I do say so myself as shouldn't, I was a dab (get it?) hand at it.

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

Backbencher
Committee Member
Committee Chair
Minister of State
Lord Chancellor
Whip
Chief Whip
Secretary of State
Foreign Secretary
Home Secretary
Chancellor
Speaker of the House
Deputy Prime Minister
Prime Minister

yahyah wrote:Ruler of the world ? Ruler of the world forever ?

ephemerid wrote:UUUSAAAIIINNNN BOLT!!!!!!!

I am so pleased - a man who has been a great ambassador for his sport beats someone who used to cheat with drugs.

Bolt may be at the end of his career at this distance; but it would have felt wrong somehow if Gatlin had won.
I appreciate this might be a bit unfair, as Gatlin has been drug-free for some time, but I don't care.

ephemerid wrote:UUUSAAAIIINNNN BOLT!!!!!!!

I am so pleased - a man who has been a great ambassador for his sport beats someone who used to cheat with drugs.

Bolt may be at the end of his career at this distance; but it would have felt wrong somehow if Gatlin had won.
I appreciate this might be a bit unfair, as Gatlin has been drug-free for some time, but I don't care.

PorFavor wrote:

refitman wrote:Due to budget constraints, everyone has had to take a demotion and a pay cut.

(I've adjusted the rankings. Sorry PF, you're not PM anymore)

Really? And I thought that I was so good at it . . . .

refitman wrote:These are the ranks:

Backbencher
Committee Member
Committee Chair
Minister of State
Lord Chancellor
Whip
Chief Whip
Secretary of State
Foreign Secretary
Home Secretary
Chancellor
Speaker of the House
Deputy Prime Minister
Prime Minister

Are there any more that could be added?

ephemerid wrote:

refitman wrote:These are the ranks:

Backbencher
Committee Member
Committee Chair
Minister of State
Lord Chancellor
Whip
Chief Whip
Secretary of State
Foreign Secretary
Home Secretary
Chancellor
Speaker of the House
Deputy Prime Minister
Prime Minister

Are there any more that could be added?

We don't have Deputy Prime Minister any more.

Cameron abolished it.

We now have a First Secretary of State.

Who is Osborne.

yahyah wrote:This will unstick it PF.

From the Welsh press - a story about a sex club that meets in rural Wales.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... ky-9909409" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



What was really worrying was the next pic was of a field of sheep.
Not sure people who seem to have lost the distinction between humans and animals for sexual purposes should be allowed near our four footed friends.

Have to admit swinging has never attracted me.
Seeing that it involves a lot of flobbering cellulite slowly turning blue and goose-bumped in the freezing Welsh outdoors, am glad to be a 'vanilla'

This all occurred not a million miles away from our own Rebecca Riots, not suggesting she's been playing gee gees of course.

yahyah wrote:This will unstick it PF.

From the Welsh press - a story about a sex club that meets in rural Wales.

.

yahyah wrote:This will unstick it PF.

From the Welsh press - a story about a sex club that meets in rural Wales.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... ky-9909409" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



What was really worrying was the next pic was of a field of sheep.
Not sure people who seem to have lost the distinction between humans and animals for sexual purposes should be allowed near our four footed friends.

Have to admit swinging has never attracted me.
Seeing that it involves a lot of flobbering cellulite slowly turning blue and goose-bumped in the freezing Welsh outdoors, am glad to be a 'vanilla'

This all occurred not a million miles away from our own Rebecca Riots, not suggesting she's been playing gee gees of course.

ephemerid wrote:

ohsocynical wrote:

ohsocynical wrote: You can threaten to kick his sticks out from under him if he's a pest...

I hope he's a better invalid than Mr Ohso. Sometimes it feels as if I'm running a kindergarten.

That sounds awful. I am taking care of him. Honest.

Well, of course you are.

The day the scientists work out how get men to have to go through monthlies, labour, and childbirth, I'll be a happy woman.

Until then, I can't take 'em seriously......

(Ducks)