Thursday 23rd June 2016

Post by **refitman** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:49 pm

Ha! Carswell shitting all over Farridge.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:50 pm

I don't get why Leave are throwing in the towel, a whole load of non exit polls don't seem like evidence to me.

Maybe they don't actually want to win.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:51 pm

Duncan Hothersall ‏@dhothersall 39s39 seconds ago

Douglas Carswell is launching his leadership campaign for a new more reasonable UKIP blatantly on live TV.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:51 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
EU referendum live results — tracker

[Cartoon image Dave Cameron] - Remain [awaiting results]-------------[Cartoon image Boris Johnson] - Leave [awaiting results]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The good thing about this format (first adopted with the Khan and Goldsmith Mayoral election?) is that's no fussy externals call
attention from the cartoons. That's also what's bad about the format. Just silly cartoons - no one is voting for Boris Johnson or
Dave Cameron, this is just make-believe. EU referendum - the UK remain in the EU or no? That's the only question
the electorate are asked to answer.
But I'm afraid a lot of people have treated it more like a general election and wanting to see those leading Remain or Leave get a bloody nose. I did it too. I voted on personalities.

Then Dave and the entire Tory party achieved precisely what they wanted. The people get to tear each other apart some giving the
utterly false impression a democratic people are experiencing democracy. Tories muster no more than 25% of the vote in the entire
UK and they're still government leadership. Bastards.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:53 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:I don't get why Leave are throwing in the towel, a whole load of non exit polls don't seem like evidence to me.

Maybe they don't actually want to win.

Yeah, agreed - it's not over until it's over.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:54 pm

Alwyn W Turner ‏@AlwynTurner 4m4 minutes ago

Isn't Carswell supposed to disagree with Dimbleby's claim that he's "rubbishing your leader". #bbcreferendum

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:56 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:I don't get why Leave are throwing in the towel, a whole load of non exit polls don't seem like evidence to me.

Maybe they don't actually want to win.

Press AssociationVerified account
‏@PA

#Breaking Farage tells PA he thinks UK has voted to #Remain from "friends in the financial markets who have done some big polling" #EUref

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Thu 23 Jun, 2016 11:58 pm

Sunderland doesn't look good, Hodges was wrong.

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:00 am

Newcastle
Remain 65,404
Leave 63,598

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:00 am

Newcastle

65,404 R 63,598 L

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:00 am

Faisal Islam @faisalislam
IN sources say two late poll shifts: 1. status quo reversion on economy 2. Core Labour Remain turnout soars on revulsion at Leave tactics

Faisal Islam ‏@faisalislam 1h
Faisal Islam Retweeted Faisal Islam

... If this is true, and we can only find that out with real results 3am... Then wider Remain victory margin poss Faisal Islam added,

thatchersorphan · Post by **thatchersorphan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:01 am

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... r-11508279" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From 22.52 All seven of the areas that appear to be leaning towards Leave – or flirting with it – have heavily Labour controlled councils and mostly Labour MPs.
Not sure about this - people Ive spoken to have been a fairly equal 3 way mix - remain, leave and appalled & refusing to vote
On the plus side my daughter finally voted for the first time today, from her comments on the far-right leavers, fairly sure that she, like me, voted remain. Turnout seemed to be quite high locally, but I have no idea which way the vote will go.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:03 am

refitman wrote:Newcastle
Remain 65,404
Leave 63,598

Closer than it should have been I think.

Oh dear.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:03 am

Dear oh dear.

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:04 am

Orkney
Remain 7,189
Leave 4,193

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:05 am

Sean Edward Seddon ‏@SESeddon 19m19 minutes ago
I ask to speak to a Leave campaigner. She declines on the verge of tears. Total resignation amongst the Leavers in Newcastle.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:07 am

ohsocynical wrote:Sean Edward Seddon ‏@SESeddon 19m19 minutes ago
I ask to speak to a Leave campaigner. She declines on the verge of tears. Total resignation amongst the Leavers in Newcastle.

Seriously?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:08 am

They do realise it's not FPTP don't they? In their area I mean.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:08 am

Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:08 am

Katie McGarvey ‏@KatieKhaleesi 2h

See how yer Tory slimeballs are all pals again but you now hate half your neighbours and workmates..?
That. That's their thing. Always.

And this is probably the truest thing we're going to be reading over the next bit.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:09 am

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.

Not least two huge Unis in Newcastle.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:11 am

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.

Robert Peston ‏@Peston 48s48 seconds ago

Newcastle result massively unsettled Remain party. They expected bigger margin of victory

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:11 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.
Not least two huge Unis in Newcastle.

Yeah, but students never bother voting.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:13 am

Extremely worrying in any case.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:14 am

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.
Not least two huge Unis in Newcastle.
Yeah, but students never bother voting.

They say they will, but when it comes to going to the polling station, they can't be arsed.

I reckon the LibDems are to blame for some of their lethargy. I remember seeing them excitedly queuing up to vote in 2010. And then Clegg reneged on his written promise about uni fees.
It was a massive slap in the face for them.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:14 am

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Bollocks, although not massively sure why Sunderland and Newcastle should be hugely different.
Not least two huge Unis in Newcastle.
Yeah, but students never bother voting.

Students have packed up surely?

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:16 am

Clackmannanshire
Remain 57.8% 14,691 votes
Leave 42.2% 10,736 votes

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:16 am

Mollie Goodfellow ‏@hansmollman 7m7 minutes ago

Arron Banks tells @KayBurley Farage is "why we're here." Says 'that' poster would have "passed without comment" had Jo Cox not been killed.

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:17 am

Sunderland
Remain 51,930
Leave 82,394

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:18 am

Out takes overall lead.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:18 am

ohsocynical wrote:Mollie Goodfellow ‏@hansmollman 7m7 minutes ago

Arron Banks tells @KayBurley Farage is "why we're here." Says 'that' poster would have "passed without comment" had Jo Cox not been killed.

That's rubbish - the poster was condemned as soon as it appeared.

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:19 am

ohsocynical wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Not least two huge Unis in Newcastle.
Yeah, but students never bother voting.
They say they will, but when it comes to going to the polling station, they can't be arsed.

I reckon the LibDems are to blame for some of their lethargy. I remember seeing them excitedly queuing up to vote in 2010. And then Clegg reneged on his written promise about uni fees.
It was a massive slap in the face for them.

Hasn't it become more complicated for students to register now? Don't they have to re-register each time they go home? And they are at home at the moment.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:19 am

refitman wrote:Sunderland
Remain 51,930
Leave 82,394

Awful

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:19 am

Sunderland was meant to be narrow Leave

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:19 am

ohsocynical wrote:
Katie McGarvey ‏@KatieKhaleesi 2h

See how yer Tory slimeballs are all pals again but you now hate half your neighbours and workmates..?
That. That's their thing. Always.
And this is probably the truest thing we're going to be reading over the next bit.

Exactly so.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:20 am

Scotland looking perhaps more as expected.

Here's hoping it's a north eats of england thing....

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:20 am

Pound plummetted.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:21 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Sunderland was meant to be narrow Leave

They say that, but we don't know why. North East and economically depressed part of the country.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:25 am

RobertSnozers wrote:This is going to be May last bloody year again isn't it?

It depends on the more affluent parts of the country. This is a referendum about money and risk.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:25 am

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Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:25 am

I have a bad feeling about this.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:26 am

My Tweet

How many of us can fit into Gibraltar? #Remain

is playing well!

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:26 am

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Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:26 am

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:I have a bad feeling about this.

Me too. Good to see you Sky.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:28 am

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:29 am

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:I have a bad feeling about this.

hello

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:29 am

Andrew Neil ‏@afneil 4m4 minutes ago

Sterling falls as currency markets fear their private polls are wrong

But isn't this typical? The currency markets did a poll.

FFS. Who did they ask? Not the people struggling to survive in Sunderland...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:31 am

FWIW Kellner sticking to 54/55% Remain.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:32 am

Gary LinekerVerified account
‏@GaryLineker

Whatever the result, Farage will always be a dick.

Well said that man

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 12:34 am

Here is my rough prediction. In areas where people are affluent remain will do well, in areas where people are struggling Leave will do well. It is going to be very close.