Wednesday 21st September 2016

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 2:01 pm

OECD changes its mind on Austerity, Brexit* and everything

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... itainUntil" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; recently a staunch supporter of George Osborne’s austerity plan, the OECD said it was appropriate for the new chancellor, Philip Hammond, to increase public spending in his first major policy statement later this year.

*However note the upwards revision is due to better than expected prereferendum performance

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 2:48 pm

http://insidestory.org.au/welfare-myths ... ck-of-life" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Welfare myths and the luck of life
ANDREW LEIGH

There’s no such thing as “us” and “them,” writes Andrew Leigh. A good social safety net is there for all of us

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 2:54 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... how-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government borrowing higher than expected at £10.5bn, figures show

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:04 pm

Labour NEC Report

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alice-p ... 16132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:09 pm

http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com ... world.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Stumbling and Mumbling

PERSUASION IN A POST-TRUTH WORLD

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:12 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... resistance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and while Britain obsesses over "controlling its borders" diseases ignore such matters completely.

The UN understands on this one that collaboration - not isolation - is key.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:14 pm

Felt a brief cold chill earlier. Thankfully seems to have passed.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:22 pm

https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2016/09/2 ... ohabitees/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

High Court calls for change in bereavement law to benefit cohabitees

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:28 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/ ... ure-fabric" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Post-referendum London already becoming a has-been on the

front. Eastern Europe is now where it's at.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:31 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/ ... ure-fabric
Post-referendum London already becoming a has-been on the front. Eastern Europe is now where it's at.

I expect that's because it's easier to obtain Star Trek stunt pants there.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:53 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /90766060/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Elizabeth Warren laid the smackdown on Wells Fargo CEO

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 3:58 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-mat ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Social housing is under fire from government policy as never before
The Housing and Planning Act, which threatens to destroy social housing, is part of a raft of government policies that have ushered in uncertainty

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:05 pm

Good afternoon, everyone.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:12 pm

DWP state LHA Cap for supported housing will apply to all tenants from 2019,not just new.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:27 pm

St Helena islanders want compensation over unusable new £285m airport

Isolated UK outpost in South Atlantic expected to attract tourists but runway is deemed too windy to land planes on

The airport cost £285m to build and was due to open on 21 May, intended to boost the economy of the British overseas territory. Instead the opening has been delayed indefinitely after it was discovered that the wind shear was so severe that commercial planes cannot land, leaving the isolated South Atlantic island without a clear economic future and the taxpayer facing a multimillion-pound bill.

Although plans for an airport have been circulating in Whitehall for over a decade, DfID was warned of the risk of high winds in a Met Office report commissioned in October 2004 and completed in January 2005. The report, sent to the St Helena government, warned of alarming wind speeds, but the site for the airport had been chosen three years before that report.

In 2011, the then foreign secretary William Hague and the then international development secretary Andrew Mitchell nevertheless pressed ahead with the runway construction claiming it would be value for money, even though it was deemed high risk. After the construction of the airport, tests proved the wind shear was indeed dangerous. (Guardian)

Priti Patel's going to sort it all out, apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... 5m-airport

Edited to tidy up

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:29 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /90766060/

Elizabeth Warren laid the smackdown on Wells Fargo CEO

I wish she'd run. Sigh.

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:36 pm

HindleA wrote:https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2016/09/2 ... ohabitees/

High Court calls for change in bereavement law to benefit cohabitees

The whole issue of cohabitee's rights needs looking at. We know a couple who have been together nearly 40 years. Both are now in their 70s and it became clear a couple of years ago that she was showing very clear signs of alzheimers. At around the same time she fell and broke her hip, so was trundled into hospital.

The medical and social work staff at the hospital refused point blank to talk to her partner about her and insisted only a spouse or close blood relative could be told anything about her at all, or asked about her care needs and how she was managing daily life. She has no close relatives and never married.

Eventually things got sorted out when a couple of us who knew her well and also know how social services and medical staff "think" managed to get them to accept that they did need to talk to her life partner, and no, he wasn't someone who'd just turned up recently looking to grab her house and money. All this ridiculous nonsense took a couple of months and didn't help anyone's stress levels or sorting out what the woman actually required or wanted.

Co-habitation is not exactly a new thing, and isn't about to go away. Obviously there do need to be safeguards to prevent abuse, but a spouse or relative can be just as abusive as a non-married partner. If the checks used to identify possible abuse are sufficient when there's a marriage certificate, why aren't they just as sufficient when there isn't a certificate but there is clear evidence of a long-term relationship?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 4:39 pm

Indeed.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 5:06 pm

PorFavor wrote:Butterfly watch -

The cat was very excited so I went to investigate.

Red Admiral butterfly, flapping frantically, trapped between the blinds and the window.

Now safely released to the great outdoors.

Message ends.

Any swifts to report?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 5:07 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... how-brexit

Government borrowing higher than expected at £10.5bn, figures show

"Expected" by whom? Mystic Meg?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 5:10 pm

Right everybody. Thank the lord that's over for another year.

You see those Tory bastards over there?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 5:38 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... how-brexit

Government borrowing higher than expected at £10.5bn, figures show
"Expected" by whom? Mystic Meg?

One of the things that I argued for over on that CiF when borrowing figures came out were the Treasury forecasts by month so we could see how far away from the forecast they were.

This was something I had to do on a regular basis - prepare a forecast and then justify the differences when the actuals were known. Not rocket science. But you can see why they don't publish the monthly splits - one less thing that people can beat them over the head with...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 5:46 pm

Something occurred to me about that new edu campaign group and the mystery of who funds them.

Given that it seems to be driven by Inspiration Trust people, it might be a tad embarrassing if this group were critical of government policy while it was funded by someone who was a non-exec director of a government department...

I seem to recall that Centre Forum were critical of the DfE when one of its trustees (Paul Marshall) was sitting in the DfE as a non-exec director at the time. He resigned shortly afterwards.

Edit - just noticed that Harris Academies are well represented - wouldn't look good if it were known that the DfE was being criticised by something he funded either.

The more I think about this, the more likely is it that the funding comes from usually Tory supporters who are dismayed at May's change of direction on schools but don't want it be known.

Post by **refitman** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:14 pm

Now voting has finished, I have un-stickied the Corbyn/Smith threads and they will drop down the page.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:22 pm

Amber Rudd. A typical Tory.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:32 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Amber Rudd. A typical Tory.

The tax haven stuff?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... hore-firms

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:37 pm

Excellent that a v small minority has exerted such magnificent power to create rifts. Such that the right will always win and the left ... er ... won't.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:38 pm

Turns out that Westminster is indeed infested with vermin. And mice too.
Badaboom... tish.

Where people think Parliament should be moved to revealed - Mirror Online
https://apple.news/AzTb5XX_ERceK3TLt5fnqYg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:43 pm

Parliament relocation. How about the cafe at Leeds Library?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:43 pm

It's got v nice tiling.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:44 pm

YOU CANNOT MAKE A POST SO SOON AFTER YOUR LAST POST.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:45 pm

They can all go and buy a Cornish pasty at the station too.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 7:51 pm

Excellent.
The UK Parliament: Leeds library cafe.
Lunch catering: Leeds station pasties.
Social events

: The Warehouse.
Social events other : The Fenton
Accommodation: Merrion Hotel
Breakfast: Sweaty Betty's (late chippy not ladies sportswear boutique)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:02 pm

Just as long as it isn't the Premier Inn on Clay Pit Lane.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:17 pm

Sadly the Merrion hotel now appears to be closed.
And I saw John Snow there once, too.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:26 pm

http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/21/disabled- ... to=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disabled woman shames train passengers who refused to move from her reserved seat.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:28 pm

The Merrion Centre was a common first tea/coffee stop from PI,being a few minutes away,on our visitations to Leeds.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:31 pm

Deleted.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:33 pm

I have witnessed (while standing), on a train "on the continent" people failing to stand for a guy with a white stick.
It did get sorted.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:36 pm

We found,most people helpful,but when not it was usually of the pretend to be stupid/it's not happening-amazing how luggage thrown in wheelchair space became unowned,suffice to say I hope nothing was breakable as we carefully moved bags out of the way.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:43 pm

Then you get the too helpful trying to lift w/c out without ramp,just the wonderful and not so wonderful aspects of being human.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:49 pm

Liked Guildford,there was a member of staff called John,who was an ultra runner,always looked after us with tea and biscuits whilst waiting.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:56 pm

BMA about the Kings Fund report into Social care from last week

https://www.bma.org.uk/news/2016/septem ... mgdoctors=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Access to care depends increasingly on what people can afford – and where they live – rather than on what they need,’ the report states."

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 8:59 pm

Care Act'll sort that out.Standardise to lower levels/highest needs.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 9:06 pm

@tc2

The Fenton on the other hand is definitely not closed :hic:

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 9:07 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@tc2

The Fenton on the other hand is definitely not closed :hic:

v pleased to hear it.
I'll be back.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 9:57 pm

Dear oh dear, I've just seen a tweet by one those "highly respected by all" edu people which calls the self-serving guff on this new campaign group's website "great research".

http://www.parentsandteachers.org.uk/research" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the one which starts:

Free Schools and Academies are more likely to be rated “Outstanding” than other schools. 26% of Free Schools and 26% of Academies are rated Outstanding by Ofsted, compared to 19% of local authority schools.

This is the standard government line which they like to use because when you add Good and outstanding together...the results are so close that they're not even worth commenting on.

And the author of these 'research' pieces?

Er....no idea.

Great research when the author isn't even named! they're basically "this is what we think" dressed up as phony research.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 10:09 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@tc2

The Fenton on the other hand is definitely not closed :hic:
v pleased to hear it.
I'll be back.

Let me know when!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 10:43 pm

Ian Katz ‏@iankatz1000 2m2 minutes ago

.@AllisterHeath on economists' #Brexit predictions: "The Armageddon scenario never materialised" #newsnight

Heath really is a complete moron.

Do we know what Brexit even looks like yet?

Nope.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 21 Sep, 2016 11:09 pm

PAC launch inquiry into Troubled Families Programme

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... ies-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;