Thursday 29th September 2016

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 4:55 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:Picture of 720 tea bags lined up in orderly fashion.

They did not die in vein.
I know some people drink so much tea they're almost injecting it into their bloodstream, but still

I thought it was some clever joke I somehow didn't get, so didn't like to say anything . . .

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 4:58 pm

London mayor launches unprecedented inquiry into foreign property ownership

Exclusive Sadiq Khan tells the Guardian he will carry out ‘the most thorough research on this matter ever undertaken’ amid widespread concern over spiralling housing costs and gentrification (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016 ... -ownership

I'll read it now, shall I? It might be crap for all I know at the moment. But hopefully not.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 5:01 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh dear...

Theresa May's big thinker - an interview with George Freeman

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... ge-freeman

May has endured her heaviest dissent over education, and Freeman was notably lukewarm about the idea of new grammar schools. “As well as her position” on the latter, he emphasised, “the Prime Minister set out a much broader vision”. Asked whether he understood MPs’ objections to academic selection, he said “there will be all the usual consultation and discussions through parliament about specific measures”.
That's not really on-message now is it?

What a strange chap.

The “Brexit roar”, he explained, was “a mixture of very deeply felt concerns and complaints about globalisation, powerlessness and the growing gap between London and [other] places . . .

“There’s an understanding that if we simply delivered Brexit, and didn’t tackle the rest, we would only have dealt with some of the problem.”

Of course, if they'd been tackling the rest, we wouldn't have Brexit. One nation conservatism, my arse.

I thought he handled that whole last week in the most exemplary way: typical of the man. In time, I think he will come to be recognised as a transformational leader who brought the Conservative Party to terms with modern Britain.”

Dave?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 5:57 pm

DWP sends woman’s confidential WCA report to privacy campaigner

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dw ... ampaigner/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 5:57 pm

German business leader [Markus Kerber] issues warning over post-Brexit trade with UK

“I have read a lot of articles in the British press saying Germany would be a relatively soft negotiator because 7.5% of German exports go to Britain,” Kerber told BBC Radio 4’s today programme. “Well, 7.5% is a big number – but 92.5% goes somewhere else.” (Guardian)

"Your "Brexit" ministers are innumerate, arrogant idiots," he added.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... t-trade-uk

Edited to add an "s"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 5:58 pm

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dw ... ts-tracks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DWP issued guidance that made suicides more likely, then ‘lied’ to cover its tracks

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 5:59 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politi ... -the-tori/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

teen-mum-turned-labour-mp-why-angela-rayner-should-have-the-tori [es running scared]

Cathy Newman if only you listened to FTN!

Seriously it really is good news that Rayner, Thornberry et al are finally getting the exposure they merit.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:00 pm

Labour conference: Party ‘must do more on rights and inclusion’

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/la ... inclusion/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:02 pm

And it was all going so well...

Historical child abuse inquiry lawyer resigns

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37508544

The second most senior lawyer in the inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales has resigned.

News of Elizabeth Prochaska's decision to step down came after the lead counsel to the hearings, Ben Emmerson QC, was suspended on Wednesday.

The inquiry said it had become "very concerned" about aspects of Mr Emmerson's leadership of his team.

The BBC understands Ms Prochaska left her position from 15 September for reasons unconnected with recent events.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:06 pm

It's more good morafteveningall PorFavor.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:06 pm

Imagining what description the press/media would choose if I became well known( can't claim paratrooper,postman,teen mum etc)former docker,probably.Colleagues had nicknames like "Doctor Death",mine was "Dipstick",can't think why.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:09 pm

What a surprise - estate agent firm takes agin' Sadiq Khan's inquiry.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:18 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Adoption numbers drop steeply as government's flagship policy falters

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 6:52 pm

In a speech in Manchester, he [Liam Fox] said free trade had "transformed the world for the better" and that the UK had "a golden opportunity to forge a new role for ourselves in the world" in the "post-geography trading world" as a member of the World Trade Organization (WTO) - the body which helps sets rules for trade between different countries. (BBC News website - my emphasis)

The what?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37504966

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 7:03 pm

post-geography
excellent

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 7:03 pm

am looking forward to a post-bastard world

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 7:19 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:post-geography
excellent

Only one word to describe that - wibble.

May must be laughing about him if not at him - at least I would like to think so.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 7:24 pm

The next time someone asks me for directions to the Co-op, I'll tell them that we are in a post-geography trading world, and wait for their reaction.

Or maybe it would be best not to wait for their reaction . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 7:30 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... -years-ago" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Six million low-income families 'worse off than 10 years ago

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 8:13 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... lip-davies

Tory MP’s complaint about Russell Howard jibes rejected by BBC Trust

Guess which MP part two.

Can't see what his problem is. All very fair comment as far as I can see. Quite restrained in fact.

His "victories" include talking-out bills to prevent landlords evicting tenants because they asked for repairs, preventing the government aid budget being enshrined in law, a bill to prevent wild animals being used in circuses, blocked legislation to make landlords fit smoke alarms in their properties, blocking stricter regulation of pay-day lenders and more besides.

What does he expect if he keeps talking out widely supported and socially beneficial private member's bills because he's a "libertarian" who thinks on principle that the fewer things government does and the fewer laws it passes the better?

Praise? Adulation? Gratitude?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 8:15 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ry-clinton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clinton campaign accuses Trump of breaking Cuba embargo

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 8:20 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dw ... ts-tracks/

DWP issued guidance that made suicides more likely, then ‘lied’ to cover its tracks

The Benefits Agency issuing guidance that doesn't exactly agree with the legislation and case law is unfortunately nothing new. Peter Lilley made a regular habit of it in Major's government, to the extent of guidance advising that some decision of the Court of Appeal and House of Lords weren't necessarily to be followed.

The 1997-2010 Labour government was far less culpable of that particular sin. Though their treatment of the ill was to basically continue and extend Major's policy of changing the law with a view to reducing the number of eligible claimants and "toughening up" the assessments. Which was continued after 2010 with great enthusiasm by IDS with the assistance of David Blunkett and Frank Field.

I believe the latter two are still members of the Labour Party....

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 8:52 pm

FFS

https://consultations.rochdale.gov.uk/c ... c-2017-301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rochdale Borough Council
Consultation
AC-2017-301 Remodel supported living offer for people with learning disabilities

Impact on affected service users

Care needs met through new wider range of care and support options, including Learning Disability Extra Care and Residential care.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 8:59 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-37493656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dorset disability care cuts plans announced

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:08 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Momentum likely to oust Jackie Walker over Holocaust remarks

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:08 pm

I like this comment from Gaby Hinsliff on May's way of operating.

"Sooner or later, every submarine has to surface."

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:10 pm

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-autosh ... KKCN11Z1YQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nissan sets 'hard Brexit' compensation condition for new UK investment

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:16 pm

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2016/0 ... ras-libres" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mexican Magazine Letras Libres Declares Donald Trump an "American Fascist"

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:28 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-momentum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

labour-party-of-the-future-labour-conference-momentum

Decent piece from John Harris

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:36 pm

This from the Mash may make a few here chuckle

A STEAMY texting session has been ruined by a man’s familiarity with the subjunctive.

Tom Logan was hoping to spice things up with his partner Emma Bradford, only to find his mood deflated by her misuse of apostrophes.

Logan said: “We wanted to keep things interesting, but she’s never heard of subject-verb agreement which is fundamental to successful sexting.

“I can’t be attracted to someone who writes ‘my stockings and bra is coming off the minute you get home’.

“To make it worse, she wrote ’I want you to touch me down their’, and asked me about my ‘pant’s’. Then she sent me some very revealing photos, but all I could see was the comma splice in the caption.”

Logan attempted to ignore Bradford’s split infinitives and random use of semicolons, but eventually found himself becoming so irritated by her inability to distinguish between ‘its’ and ‘it’s’ that he had to call a halt.

He said: “I pretended I had a meeting, but really I just shut myself in the stationery cupboard with a copy of the Economist Style Guide to calm myself down. The misuse of ‘whom’ is a red line for me.”

Bradford said: “I get off on humiliating him by pretending I don’t know the difference between ‘fewer’ and ‘less’.”

Post by **refitman** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 9:49 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:This from the Mash may make a few here chuckle
A STEAMY texting session has been ruined by a man’s familiarity with the subjunctive.

Tom Logan was hoping to spice things up with his partner Emma Bradford, only to find his mood deflated by her misuse of apostrophes.

Logan said: “We wanted to keep things interesting, but she’s never heard of subject-verb agreement which is fundamental to successful sexting.

“I can’t be attracted to someone who writes ‘my stockings and bra is coming off the minute you get home’.

“To make it worse, she wrote ’I want you to touch me down their’, and asked me about my ‘pant’s’. Then she sent me some very revealing photos, but all I could see was the comma splice in the caption.”

Logan attempted to ignore Bradford’s split infinitives and random use of semicolons, but eventually found himself becoming so irritated by her inability to distinguish between ‘its’ and ‘it’s’ that he had to call a halt.

He said: “I pretended I had a meeting, but really I just shut myself in the stationery cupboard with a copy of the Economist Style Guide to calm myself down. The misuse of ‘whom’ is a red line for me.”

Bradford said: “I get off on humiliating him by pretending I don’t know the difference between ‘fewer’ and ‘less’.”

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:07 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw

Adoption numbers drop steeply as government's flagship policy falters

No surprise. People realised that they could end up with a Michael Gove. Enough to deter, well... everyone.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:24 pm

More from world of Brexit (Sunderland voting 61% to Leave)

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor ... 901?Nissan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has said it will not to commit to further investment unless there are assurances from the Government

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:24 pm

Fancy something to help waste some more hours?

http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I thought the maps link I gave the other week was bad enough but seeing the area I grew up in from the air 80 years ago with half the roads not even built yet was a real eye-opener.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:25 pm

."VauxhallLabour passes motion censuring @KateHoeyMP for campaigning with @Nigel_Farage on Brexit"

Happens to be one of my former constituences,when the MP was Stuart Holland.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:31 pm

Child Sex Abuse Inquiry In Chaos After Lawyer Learns Of His Suspension By Internet - The Huffington Post - UK
https://apple.news/AvzLNrmv5SRqJ3bjFgbCJHQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Addendum to the earlier posts on the same topic. It's getting very hard not to believe that this inquiry was set up to be a deliberate failure.

If we had even a half-functioning media in this country, this would be something that would bring a government demonstrating such callous ineptitude crashing down.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:34 pm

Thanks for link Roger,found a couple within spitting distance- the Tesco replacement of factories and disappearance of railway station.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:41 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... -times-sun" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oh here's a surprise. Gerry Hall's undead beaux hangs out with ~~Maggie~~ Theresa May.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:42 pm

Tanni-Grey getting PIPped.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:42 pm

Do not under any circumstances click on this link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... ropez.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:47 pm

Turf wars between ministers, extra civil servants and a ‘void in negotiating strategy’ are wasting time and money, says Institute for Government report https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ays-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes but we've taken back control!

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:53 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... u-feel-now" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Opportunity to report to the Guardian your joy at Brexit 100 days in.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 10:59 pm

https://polarizingthevacuum.wordpress.c ... -so-i-did/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ROD LIDDLE SAID, “DO THE MATH”. SO I DID.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:03 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 38111.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit: MPs should be free to reject referendum result due to lack of clear plans, says top lawyer

It's a good point since (being a bunch of total bastards) Brits favour the death penalty by 45-39%
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/08/13/ca ... -favoured/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not really very edifying. How could anyone have put anything actually important to us in a referendum for crying out loud?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:23 pm

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:26 pm

Well.

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 3m3 minutes ago

Tyldesley (Blackpool) result:
LAB: 48.3% (+10.0)
CON: 26.8% (-2.4)
LDEM: 21.5% (+15.9)
UKIP: 3.3% (-18.7)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:30 pm

We’re two-faced about ‘wasting’ money on welfare

(Australian article)

http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/work/20 ... e-reforms/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:32 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 36911.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MPs and peers are applying for Irish passports in the hope that they can retain EU citizenship after the UK leaves the European Union.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:43 pm

Against my good judgment I put QT on - Priti Patel's guff on grammar schools - so much nonsense. Really not a single clue.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 29 Sep, 2016 11:59 pm

Fancy.

George Eaton Verified account ‏@georgeeaton 59m59 minutes ago

Priti Patel glossed over fact that non-EU immigration is still higher than that from the EU. #bbcqt