Thursday 17th November 2016

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:12 pm

citizenJA wrote:The day is closing.
Tea.

Cucumber sandwiches, anyone?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:31 pm

It's more a toasting crumpets by the fire sort of day.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:32 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:The day is closing.
Tea.
Cucumber sandwiches, anyone?

That's actually rather a tempting offer (weather notwithstanding). I'm quite partial to a cucumber sandwich.

Edited to add - despite my aversion to sandwiches in a general sort of way.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:39 pm

Tornadoes hit Wales and Midlands (BBC News website)

I hope everyone here is safe and sound.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38016701

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 4:50 pm

Civil servants befuddled by Trump's casual invitation to May

Leaked transcript shows president-elect told British PM: ‘If you travel to the US you should let me know’
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tation-may

Edited to add - that's not my idea of an "invitation".

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 5:24 pm

European cucumbers are the only ones worth eating
I dislike US cucumbers

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 5:26 pm

citizenJA wrote:European cucumbers are the only ones worth eating
I dislike US cucumbers

How do they differ? I've never sampled (or seen) US cucumbers.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 5:30 pm

PorFavor wrote:
citizenJA wrote:European cucumbers are the only ones worth eating
I dislike US cucumbers
How do they differ? I've never sampled (or seen) US cucumbers.

Lucky you
Mushy, misshapen, slices fall apart before reaching the bread and tasteless = US cucumbers

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:09 pm

Yet to discover a tasty cucumber,then again I have probably destroyed any residual sense of taste beyong nicotine flavour over the years.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:16 pm

Blimey. We chose the right day to go to Aberystwyth yesterday.
It was damp and breezy but today there has been something else.

Not too bad here but twenty miles away this is the scene.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:34 pm

PF Am safe,as to sound,very much open to debate.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:41 pm

Bloody quick with those acknowledgements there.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:43 pm

HindleA wrote:Bloody quick with those acknowledgements there.

Ha! Glad you're safe - not a verdict on the other bit!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:44 pm

Ha ha,I believe you.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 6:45 pm

Was a bit wild earlier,calmed down a bit now.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 7:19 pm

HindleA wrote:Was a bit wild earlier,calmed down a bit now.

Wild Hindle. Sounds like a hitherto undiscovered Brontë novel.

Edited to add an "s"

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 7:31 pm

Councils spent £3.5bn on temporary housing in last five years

Councils in Britain have spent more than £3.5bn on temporary accommodation for homeless families in the last five years, data obtained by the BBC shows.

In that time the annual cost has risen 43%, with councils spending £851m on temporary housing in 2015 alone.

Homeless charity Crisis said the number of people in temporary accommodation was rising at an "alarming rate".

The government said temporary housing "ensures people have a roof over their head".

But the Local Government Association said the costs were "unsustainable".

Lucy Surridge has spent nine weeks living in a hostel in Dagenham, east London, with her 11-year-old daughter and six-year-old son.

A full-time school chef, she was made homeless when her landlady sold the property.

The 29-year-old approached several estate agents but they told her she would need to earn £38,500 before they would consider renting to her.

She was told she would also need £3,500 in deposit, fees and the first month's rent.

"I think everyone thinks 'it'll never happen to me'.

"I made sure I paid all my bills on time - I wasn't in any arrears for anything.

"But even that didn't secure me from being evicted and having nowhere else to go. You get priced out of being able to move on."

This surely cannot go on much longer?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38016728

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 7:59 pm

¿Donde está todo el mundo?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 8:09 pm

Cryptic crosswording,just finished.The Spectator one is thematic.Limestone today,which I am sure will come in useful.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 8:13 pm

Coquina,kunkur,scaglia,Purbeck marble,oolite,cornbrash,Kentish-rag

Since,you didn't ask.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 8:52 pm

HindleA wrote:Coquina,kunkur,scaglia,Purbeck marble,oolite,cornbrash,Kentish-rag

Since,you didn't ask.

It crossed my mind to ask for a sample clue but even having been told the theme, I knew I would only show my total ignorance. So, discretion being the better part and all that . . .

Edited - typo

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 8:55 pm

They were the unclued,if you think I knew more than one,you are mistaken.Chambers Word Wizard,is my friend.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:01 pm

Half the battle is working out the instructions,in this case part of some answers were not defined ,these made up the word limestone which in turn defined the unclued.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:07 pm

Steve Bell on the new brand of special relationship – cartoon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:08 pm

The title was "quarry"

Typical clue,not hard if you are used to.

Eg.Quiet exercises by expert=PE-ACE.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:11 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Steve Bell on the new brand of special relationship – cartoon

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's just about sums it up, doesn't it? Has Donald Trump rung Theresa May yet? I've lost track. I know she made the first (only?) move.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:13 pm

I did start early with the New Statesman as a teenager and won a couple of times,a massive £5 book token.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:21 pm

HindleA wrote:I did start early with the New Statesman as a teenager and won a couple of times,a massive £5 book token.

I used to do a lot of cryptic crosswords. The one I could never fathom was (I think) the one in the Independent. Could never fathom it even working backwards from the solutions. Reminded me of that ghastly TV programme "3-2-1".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:24 pm

No one reaches the level of Araucaria,or likely to.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:33 pm

HindleA wrote:No one reaches the level of Araucaria,or likely to.

As a dyslexic I'm really not into crossword, OH however happily sits doing them all evening whist I toss in some wonderful cryptic/dyslexic answers to the cryptic clues at him. I even accidentally got one right once.... 1982 I think it was.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:38 pm

My better half had the habit of getting the final one easily when I had been tearing my hair out.Lalique springs to mind.She complemented my many areas of ignrorance.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:45 pm

HindleA wrote:My better half had the habit of getting the final one easily when I had been tearing my hair out.Lalique springs to mind.She complemented my many areas of ignrorance.

So infuriating when you get all the answers bar the final one. I'd much rather be defeated earlier on in the proceedings.

Strange, isn't it, the way sometimes you give up on a crossword then after a few hours of ignoring it the brain can see things so clearly that once seemed a complete mystery?

Edited - much too much much going on

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:49 pm

Night night.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 9:50 pm

Easier now,but pre computer days is was known for me to go to the library in the quest not to be defeated.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:19 pm

I think I'm done with Labour, if they had come firmly down on staying in the EU I might have stuck it out, but all this in fighting is just too much. Absolutely no chance of winning in 2020 when they are this disunited in 2016.

Labour engulfed in ground war as unions reinforce rebel MPs
Obscure device in rule book used to influence membership deselection ballots

https://www.ft.com/content/92ea4092-acb ... 8207902122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:26 pm

To whom it may concern :-

For some reason,I am now acceptable to somewhere I was unaware of.Funny thing is,I thought I was acceptable,give or take,anyway.It has been going for some time apparently.Hmm,should I be truly honoured to reach the exalted heights,passing some criteria I didn't reach before-perhaps accusing the most un troll like person as being a troll,slagging off daily mail readers,claiming imperviousness to being duped,shouting traitors at those that don't happen to agree,may have speeded up the process.So why now is the recruitment enacted,and why so belatedly.I haven't changed,I am not censored by anybody,apart from myself,despite the leavers contention.I don't know,but I will not take the offer,thanks all the same

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:31 pm

HindleA wrote:To whom it may concern :-

For some reason,I am now acceptable to somewhere I was unaware of.Funny thing is,I thought I was acceptable,give or take,anyway.It has been going for some time apparently.Hmm,should I be truly honoured to reach the exalted heights,passing some criteria I didn't reach before-perhaps accusing the most un troll like person as being a troll,slagging off daily mail readers,claiming imperviousness to being duped,shouting traitors at those that don't happen to agree,may have speeded up the process.So why now is the recruitment enacted,and why so belatedly.I haven't changed,I am not censored by anybody,apart from myself,despite the leavers contention.I don't know,but I will not take the offer,thanks all the same

??
(I'm truly am not very good at crosswords - honest)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:34 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:37 pm

It'll make sense to those it is intended to make sense to.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:38 pm

HindleA wrote:It'll make sense to those it is intended to make sense to.

Makes perfect sense to me.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:40 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
HindleA wrote:It'll make sense to those it is intended to make sense to.
Makes perfect sense to me.

Sorry I didn't realise I'm out in the cold, although I had suspected it for some time now.

Post by **adam** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:41 pm

PorFavor wrote:Edited to add - despite my aversion to sandwiches in a general sort of way.

WHAT!!!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:41 pm

In other news...well, that's the thing.

There isn't any.

Take a look at the front pages of tomorrow's Mirror, Metro, Times, telegraph

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And this:

Nick Sutton
✔
@suttonnick

I'm sorry but I can't publish some front pages until after midnight when a court order is lifted.

Clearly a big story but what I wonder? What has someone been trying to hide?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:46 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:
HindleA wrote:It'll make sense to those it is intended to make sense to.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Sorry I didn't realise I'm out in the cold, although I had suspected it for some time now.

I'm not entirely sure either. I trust our friends here. We'll understand. You're not out in the cold.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 10:51 pm

I love you all.
Goodnight, sleep well.
cJA

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 17 Nov, 2016 11:44 pm

AAW you are not out in the cold,unless you literally are and I would get back inside,bloody freezing.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 18 Nov, 2016 12:04 am

Embargoed story is about a terminally ill girl who won the right to have her body frozen so that one day she might be able to be brought back to life.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 18 Nov, 2016 12:14 am

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 18 Nov, 2016 12:16 am

FWIW in the non binding vote on ESA five Tories voted with Labour.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 18 Nov, 2016 1:17 am

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/di ... -suggests/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disability Confident will be ‘trivially easy’ for employers to abuse, research suggests

Sigh,seems even worse than two ticks,which this is just a revamp of.