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"Open Sores"-wish I'd thought of that.Drunken sailor was too tame.
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Latest Delayed Transfers of Care Figures
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2 years of Tory majority government and we're already back to people waiting on trolleys. God, people have short memories. They had a chance to vote for Ed Miliband and they chose this. What's wrong with people?10:27
The NHS in England is performing at its worst ever level against a raft of targets, including A&E, cancer and people forced to wait on trolleys, the Press Association reports.
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@Willow
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'stabbed his brother in the back' according to my Tory voting, Telegraph reading father-in-law...Willow904 wrote:2 years of Tory majority government and we're already back to people waiting on trolleys. God, people have short memories. They had a chance to vote for Ed Miliband and they chose this. What's wrong with people?10:27
The NHS in England is performing at its worst ever level against a raft of targets, including A&E, cancer and people forced to wait on trolleys, the Press Association reports.
On the plus side, since the EU vote shambles - he's ditched the Telegraph and moved to the Independent. He's strongly pro EU
and very upset about 'where the country is going'
So, it's brought us together...we now agree on a lot of things.
edit- truly shocking grammar
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How people like your dad react over the next couple of years is quite key to how the Tory government behaves, I suspect. It's reassuring to know that a Ukippy Tory government isn't universally popular with Tory voters. May he continue to read the IndependentLost Soul wrote:'stabbed his brother in the back' according to my Tory voting, Telegraph reading father-in-law...Willow904 wrote:2 years of Tory majority government and we're already back to people waiting on trolleys. God, people have short memories. They had a chance to vote for Ed Miliband and they chose this. What's wrong with people?10:27
The NHS in England is performing at its worst ever level against a raft of targets, including A&E, cancer and people forced to wait on trolleys, the Press Association reports.
On the plus side, since the EU vote shambles - he's ditched the Telegraph and moved to the Independent. He's strongly pro EU
and very upset about 'where the country is going'
So, it's brought us together...we are now agree on a lot of things.
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Fascinating regional map on tax raising/spending
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For every £15 raised in taxes in Sunderland, Government spends £33.
Ooof. That is a big transfer.
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For every £15 raised in taxes in Sunderland, Government spends £33.
Ooof. That is a big transfer.
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Ex Torygraph subscriber confession.
Am for the gallows-someone gave me vouchers mitigation.
Am for the gallows-someone gave me vouchers mitigation.
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Right, that's it. I'm collecting wood for the pyre.HindleA wrote:Ex Torygraph subscriber confession.
Am for the gallows-someone gave me vouchers mitigation.
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HindleA wrote:Ex Torygraph subscriber confession.
Am for the gallows-someone gave me vouchers mitigation.
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SpinningHugo wrote:Fascinating regional map on tax raising/spending
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For every £15 raised in taxes in Sunderland, Government spends £33.
Ooof. That is a big transfer.
Not as much as they got for Alf Common,and about as much up to date.
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It was actually called "The Torygraph",I may have been conned.
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McLaren to create 200 jobs in Sheffield with new £50m plant
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Remember when legal aid was slashed? The awful effects are taking hold
Frances Ryan
Remember when legal aid was slashed? The awful effects are taking hold
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Guardian article on Lovren
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HindleA wrote:It was actually called "The Torygraph",I may have been conned.
Mawny stannit...
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What do you think of it so far?
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I have never called for anybody to be banned on here before.RobertSnozers wrote:OpenSores 'taking on the role of pulling people together'? Jesus. He just has an interest (and probably considerable enjoyment) in seeing the left rip itself to pieces on a daily basis. Why would he want to see that stop?
AK was dead right last night, but I wouldn't have stopped there.
I think that speaks for itself.
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HindleA wrote:What do you think of it so far?
'rubbish'
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It was actually a decent read once.HindleA wrote:Ex Torygraph subscriber confession.
Am for the gallows-someone gave me vouchers mitigation.
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Whitehall’s outsourcing of IT a “bad mistake” – and other Universal Credit lessons – by ex-DWP minister
Whitehall’s outsourcing of IT a “bad mistake” – and other Universal Credit lessons – by ex-DWP minister
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"non existent"-correcting clerical error from last night-must get a new secretery.
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yahyah wrote:Paul asked 'when did anyone vote for Lexit ?'
'' I am voting for Lexit''
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''LeftLeave Lexit statement''
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Does that first bloke think a country can just vote to stop paying it's debts and the others have to accept it?
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We had a Lexiteer on here before the referendum, of course. I would be genuinely interested in their take on the current state of things.
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I too am very sorry to see Paul go.
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Latest politician favourability ratings from YouGov, for those interested.
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This is one of my frustrations with Labour under Milliband and so far Corbyn. I understand why they don't want to make too many spending commitments but in the scheme of things legal aid is small change, and a case could be made that the Coalition made false economies.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-services
Remember when legal aid was slashed? The awful effects are taking hold
Frances Ryan
So why not commitment now for £X and you will see bad stuff stop? Same as they did with the Bedroom Tax?
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Tenuous link The Glimmer Twins (all copies are counterfeit)
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Reference to Robert's "glimmer" mention.You don't have to be happy,but you shout it whilst wiggling your arse.
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Reference to Robert's "glimmer" mention.You don't have to be happy,but you shout it whilst wiggling your arse.
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Good to see Johnson has worn thin already.yahyah wrote:Latest politician favourability ratings from YouGov, for those interested.
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Trump's favourability still thankfully low at 19%, but that is up 11 points from 8% six months ago.
Which is the point I was making last week, that he could be viewed more favourably over time the way things are going in politics.
46% of kippers like him, 25% of 2015 Tory voters according to Smithson.
You Gov's report here:
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Which is the point I was making last week, that he could be viewed more favourably over time the way things are going in politics.
46% of kippers like him, 25% of 2015 Tory voters according to Smithson.
You Gov's report here:
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Lots are scared of UKIP, and hado Leave votes in constituencies overall (if not obviously of Labour voters).StephenDolan wrote:Let's take a step back. Consider this. The vast majority of Labour MPs voted in the referendum to remain. The vast majority of the people who voted for them to become MPs voted Remain. Corbyn and McDonnell have given the image in the past that they'd want to leave EU. The PLP voted very recently, by a huge margin to get rid of Corbyn. And yet, when it came to the early stages of A50 invocation through the Commons,the vast majority of Labour MPs voted, after the many attempts to amend, voted for A50 to proceed to the Lords.
Why do you think that was/is?
Yahyah, Tubby, pk1 in particular, but not exclusively, what are your thoughts?
As in the US, "bipartisan" politics is only asked of one side. Noddy expects Redwood etc to do it.
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Getting sued by Bob and John Glimmer.
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StephenDolan wrote:Let's take a step back. Consider this. The vast majority of Labour MPs voted in the referendum to remain. The vast majority of the people who voted for them to become MPs voted Remain. Corbyn and McDonnell have given the image in the past that they'd want to leave EU. The PLP voted very recently, by a huge margin to get rid of Corbyn. And yet, when it came to the early stages of A50 invocation through the Commons,the vast majority of Labour MPs voted, after the many attempts to amend, voted for A50 to proceed to the Lords.
Why do you think that was/is?
Yahyah, Tubby, pk1 in particular, but not exclusively, what are your thoughts?
Immigration. Immigration. Immigration.
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There are some who will have rallied behind him when he became POTUS, and given how enthusiastically May has courted Trump 25% from Tories arguably isn't that high.yahyah wrote:Trump's favourability still thankfully low at 19%, but that is up 11 points from 8% six months ago.
Which is the point I was making last week, that he could be viewed more favourably over time the way things are going in politics.
46% of kippers like him, 25% of 2015 Tory voters according to Smithson.
You Gov's report here:
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Definite opportunities for driving a wedge between the PM and some of her instinctive supporters there.......
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Always classy to physically humiliate a woman when she's just had to do something she knows is immoral
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Glad to know,I am not doing a Slade link.
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You couldn't resist getting a dig in at Abbott (and of course, I'm no fan) even when she was very much the wronged party.
Typical.
Typical.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:You couldn't resist getting a dig in at Abbott (and of course, I'm no fan) even when she was very much the wronged party.
Typical.
I think Abbott humiliated herself in voting the way she did. Davis then behaved in the most disgraceful way.
Disapproving of one doesn't mean you have to approve of the other.
cf the Tories and the Labour party.
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Tory MPs join criticism of Amber Rudd over child refugees
Pressure grows on home secretary over closure of scheme to bring unaccompanied child refugees to UK after only 350 arrivals
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Pressure grows on home secretary over closure of scheme to bring unaccompanied child refugees to UK after only 350 arrivals
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Isn't it time the "Members Only" section was re-activated?
EDIT: I see the post which prompted this query has been zapped - impressive speed there.
EDIT: I see the post which prompted this query has been zapped - impressive speed there.
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Good-afternoon, everyone.
I hope refitman and site administrators making FlyTheNest available continue.
Anyone not feeling fragile in some way at this point in history isn't paying adequate attention.
I hope refitman and site administrators making FlyTheNest available continue.
Anyone not feeling fragile in some way at this point in history isn't paying adequate attention.
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Good point. I'm thoroughly demoralised. Parliament is embarking on a course that will materially degrade economic, political and social conditions in the UK. Once gone, it's not coming back. It's not a policy getting worked out better next time. Tory government and the rest of Parliament too, for all I can see, have too much confidence and optimism. Foolish.gilsey wrote:Hear hear.Willow904 wrote:Incidentally, if Labour remainers like me are feeling reasonably content this morning that a good chunk of Labour MPs voted against, I'm wondering how Tory remain voters are feeling with only Ken Clarke standing up for them. Is there really that many votes out there for a Ukippy Tory party? Ultimately the Tories will face their own difficulties in reconciling the opposing views of Eurosceptics and Europhiles. I imagine the realignment of political views post-Brexit will be ongoing.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, where were the tory remain MPs? Labour was always on a hiding to nothing if they wouldn't stand up.
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Yeah I think so.AnatolyKasparov wrote:There are some who will have rallied behind him when he became POTUS, and given how enthusiastically May has courted Trump 25% from Tories arguably isn't that high.yahyah wrote:Trump's favourability still thankfully low at 19%, but that is up 11 points from 8% six months ago.
Which is the point I was making last week, that he could be viewed more favourably over time the way things are going in politics.
46% of kippers like him, 25% of 2015 Tory voters according to Smithson.
You Gov's report here:
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Definite opportunities for driving a wedge between the PM and some of her instinctive supporters there.......
Her media fans are edging towards Trump too.
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Cja wiggle your arse,leap up and down and make facial contortions for a bit I suggest,I've got the added option of playing guitar but you need to have a lit fag at regular intervals to get the full positive effects or scorched body parts,whichever comes first.Top Tip(s
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Or sit with a cake and a fork.
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Is "fork",spelled/spelt (delete to preference)correctly?.Either way,sound advice.
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I find the best thing with a slice of cake isn't a fork, but another slice of cake.
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Now there we are in total agreement Stephen.
Have another slice or two.
Have another slice or two.