Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
The fact he was late and then left half an hour earlier than originally scheduled seems to be the main complaint from open minded posters who were genuinely interested in taking part in the event. The impression that mums are only worth twenty minutes is not a good one and his campaign team should be ashamed of themselves. Some did make the point Theresa May hasn't bothered at all and it's not going to make any difference to the outcome of the election, but I don't see how pk1 and I can conclude that the mumsnet chat went well when so many who took part expressed disappointment.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:26 pm
by PorFavor
May says she called the election because it was important to to get a mandate for Brexit. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Oh, I thought we'd already got that (the Referendum outcome). Since nothing's changed insofaras we're still no clearer on the way forward or what "Brexit" will comprise of, where's the need for another one?
Edited to add -
nearly put 'what "Brexit" means'. Stopped myself in time. After all, we all know that '"Brexit" means . . .'
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:27 pm
by StephenDolan
citizenJA wrote:We constructively assist Labour when and if something is wrong and needs putting right, if possible
We're going to have different ideas regarding wrong and if it's a reasonable time to bring it up
I think RogerOThornhill, Willow904 and pk1 have made good points
Mistakes happen and clarification is possible
The difference is that Dr RoT (edit, and you of course CJA ) and willow contribute to the many discussions. Pk1 does a drive-by.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:28 pm
by pk1
Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
Page 5 had the comments that were posted after he had been and gone.
Turning up late then naffing off early went down like a cup of cold sick.
JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-May-17 13:09:50
Very sorry to disappoint folks - we were under the impression that Jeremy could spare an hour for us which is the usual duration of our chats but 20 minutes in his team told us he'd have to leave to catch a train at 12.30 We did try to persuade them to stay longer but he had a launch event he had to get to. Apologies for the disappointment. We agree it's not an ideal length of time for a webchat.
If it's a Corbyn love-in you're looking for, maybe try the other place where you'll see the many faces that used to post here.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:29 pm
by pk1
StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
Can't comment on something I didn't watch.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:29 pm
by StephenDolan
pk1 wrote:
Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
Page 5 had the comments that were posted after he had been and gone.
Turning up late then naffing off early went down like a cup of cold sick.
JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-May-17 13:09:50
Very sorry to disappoint folks - we were under the impression that Jeremy could spare an hour for us which is the usual duration of our chats but 20 minutes in his team told us he'd have to leave to catch a train at 12.30 We did try to persuade them to stay longer but he had a launch event he had to get to. Apologies for the disappointment. We agree it's not an ideal length of time for a webchat.
If it's a Corbyn love-in you're looking for, maybe try the other place where you'll see the many faces that used to post here.
No comments on last night?
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:30 pm
by StephenDolan
pk1 wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
Can't comment on something I didn't watch.
I see. I'll remember that.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:31 pm
by Willow904
Temulkar wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
It's almost like some people have an agenda, isn't it?
Like belonging to the Labour Party, putting up Labour Party posters, assisting local Labour councillors on local village initiatives - that sort of agenda you mean?
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:33 pm
by pk1
StephenDolan wrote:
citizenJA wrote:We constructively assist Labour when and if something is wrong and needs putting right, if possible
We're going to have different ideas regarding wrong and if it's a reasonable time to bring it up
I think RogerOThornhill, Willow904 and pk1 have made good points
Mistakes happen and clarification is possible
The difference is that Dr RoT (edit, and you of course CJA ) and willow contribute to the many discussions. Pk1 does a drive-by.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:34 pm
by HindleA
Can we quit the false portrayal of this and other places,not least because at various times this forum is described is exactly the opposite terms,it confuses me.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 2:34 pm
by citizenJA
@StephenDolan
Please don't do this, I beg you
pk1 is Labour
I stand with you all
No cock references by Mordaunt noticed so far.I know PF follows such things.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:15 pm
by HindleA
@cja how can stand my us all,given geographical considerations,please clarify.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:22 pm
by HindleA
FWIW if anybody actually agreed with me,beyond the occasional,I would be deeply worried indeed.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:23 pm
by StephenDolan
citizenJA wrote:@StephenDolan
Please don't do this, I beg you
pk1 is Labour
I stand with you all
Okay cja, for you, I will cease.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:28 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:@cja how can stand my us all,given geographical considerations,please clarify.
figurative stand
not easily shattered
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:31 pm
by HindleA
Danny Shaw
BREAKING: Nazir Afzal, chief exe of Association of Police & Crime Commissioners, has resigned in row about media coverage of terror attacks
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:38 pm
by citizenJA
I got the kettle on
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:40 pm
by HindleA
Where,head,feet,hob ?the lack of detail is worrying.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:54 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Where,head,feet,hob ?the lack of detail is worrying.
Mr HindleA, have you supplied us with baked goods?
kettle on the hob
tea is steeping
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:55 pm
by HindleA
May I get away with potential baked tobacco?
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 3:56 pm
by citizenJA
Speaking at a Labour campaign event in Watford, Jeremy Corbyn apologised for not being able to give the cost of his childcare policy in his Woman’s Hour interview earlier. He said:
I didn’t have the exact figure in front of me, so I was unable to answer that question, for which obviously I apologise. But I don’t apologise for what’s in the manifesto and I will explain exactly what the cost is.
It’s £4.8bn it will cost by the end of the parliament and it means that 1 million children will get childcare, free childcare: 30 hours per week between the years of two and four.
I have apprentices to make my roll ups,since grape peelers were made redundant.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 4:08 pm
by citizenJA
"Labour is the party of equality. We were built on the values of social justice, internationalism and human rights.
Our values are rooted in the fundamental truth that whatever your background, wherever you are from,
you should have the means and opportunity to fulfil your potential."
pk1 wrote:Good to hear Corbyn castigate the abusers of Emma Barnett after his interview this morning.
Yes, despite what some like to insinuate he has no time for such stuff. Nor can he police the wilder recesses of social media.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 6:33 pm
by RogerOThornhill
pk1 wrote:Good to hear Corbyn castigate the abusers of Emma Barnett after his interview this morning.
Indeed. Every party has its share of supporters who will come out with stuff that is wince-inducing - social media - and Twitter in particular - has just brought them into the open. But it needs slapping down sharpish and its good to see that happening now.
Edited to spell wince correctly...
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 6:56 pm
by NonOxCol
Stuck record time again:
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Like most who watched, I recall this woman, and certainly recall the "Labour supporter" businessman upset about the abolition of ZHC, the £10 NMW, and VAT on his kids' school fees.
It's bad enough that the BBC peak-time TV news is *leading* on that Woman's Hour thing (3rd or 4th story on the Radio 2 news bulletins I heard today). But shit like this, where they're supposed to distil for and inform people who didn't watch...
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 7:51 pm
by adam
Apologies if you've had these already, although not many apologies as they are worth the repeat.
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Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 7:54 pm
by SpinningHugo
Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 8:26 pm
by 55DegreesNorth
Evening, folks,
A medic chum put this on her BookTube page. It's worth sharing, although I'm sure it's not news to many here. " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's an explanation of how the Tories will force the sale of NHS land and assets.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 8:30 pm
by 55DegreesNorth
frog222 wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 8:40 pm
by frog222
55DegreesNorth wrote:
frog222 wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.
[quote="frog222"Do you mean overturning TWOTP ?[/quote]
In all seriousness, I could see an argument for suspending TWOTP in order to have a genuinely informed debate, debunking lies and bollocks. A lot of people who voted Brexit would support that.
I believe that if the EU vote had had three options:
1. Leave
2. Remain
3. Fuck off, everybody;
that option 3 would have won.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 9:23 pm
by frog222
55DegreesNorth wrote:[quote="frog222"Do you mean overturning TWOTP ?
In all seriousness, I could see an argument for suspending TWOTP in order to have a genuinely informed debate, debunking lies and bollocks. A lot of people who voted Brexit would support that.
I believe that if the EU vote had had three options:
1. Leave
2. Remain
3. Fuck off, everybody;
that option 3 would have won.[/quote]
Option3 was abstention !!!
55 -- suspending the so-called TWOTP would take a VERY high degree of political skill
Farage, and perhaps some other major Tory brexiteers, would TRY to bring out the Mob, for a start ...
I need to think some more on this, so many variables .... !
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 9:35 pm
by seeingclearly
sorry. Old information, though somehow I missed the passing of Maya Angelou three years ago. I was pretty unwell in 2014 which might explain why.
Re: Tuesday 30th May 2017
Posted: Tue 30 May, 2017 9:43 pm
by gilsey
55DegreesNorth wrote:
frog222 wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.
I've been hypothesising about this for a while, but had stopped at the Norway option.
Actually overturning TWOTP and withdrawing A50? I'm not sure they should try, selling EFTA would be hard enough.
) and willow contribute to the many discussions. Pk1 does a drive-by.
