Monday 26th June 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 4:01 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... P=soc_3156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bonnylad · Post by **Bonnylad** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 4:04 pm

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/inte ... 0626130466" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 4:48 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't understand how the Tory-DUP billion pound deal is legal
"Its legal because we say it is", basically?

Sinn Fein and the UN might have something to say about that, with justification.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 5:02 pm

11m ago 16:49
Theresa May's offer to EU nationals does not go far enough, says EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier

Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, has criticised Theresa May’s offer to EU nationals. He says it does not go far enough in a tweet he posted a few minutes ago.

Michel Barnier (@MichelBarnier)

EU goal on #citizensrights: same level of protection as in EU law. More ambition, clarity and guarantees needed than in today's UK position.
June 26, 2017

(Politics Live, Guardian)

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 5:46 pm

Oh dear...

Nick Macpherson‏
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£1 billion for Ulster is just a downpayment. DUP will be back for more...again and again... They have previous in such matters. #profligacy

That's the former Permanent Secretary to the Treasury...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 5:49 pm

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ofqu ... exam-leaks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 6:56 pm

NonOxCol wrote:Just when you thought it couldn't get any more enraging, here he comes, the galumphing useless waste of fucking carbon...

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too good not to steal now and then.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 6:57 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Ouch!

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[Apologies for only showing the link - Tinypic is being a royal pain in the arse for me right now]

Misread that for a minute.
(about to get on high horse before realising error emoticon)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:02 pm

http://www.expatforum.com/united-kingdo ... rexit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
British expats in France are also underwhelmed. ‘We find it bizarre that she expects the EU to reciprocate to her offer which falls short of their own. Does she expect the EU to water down its offer to match hers?’ said Dave Spokes, a spokesman for Expat Citizen Rights in EU.

‘This not a negotiation to get the lowest possible price. It is, or should be, a negotiation to gain the best support for real people. It seems a very odd strategy for the UK to offer less support for citizens than that being offered by the EU. Should they not be encouraging the EU to give more?’ he added.

The whole thing is such a monumental waste of time it's criminal.
As if there isn't anything actually useful we could get on with.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:05 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 08896.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Former Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers endured a torrid interview on live radio during which she repeatedly refused to answer a question about the legitimacy of the Government's deal with the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP).

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:06 pm

Ms Villiers refused to say whether funding had ever previously been granted to the historically troubled region in exchange for votes.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:08 pm

....
But there were immediate demands for other parts of the UK to receive similar largesse, with Plaid Cymru saying Wales should be entitled to £1.7 billion on a population-weighted basis.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:08 pm

how many cans of worms can we get open in one go

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:11 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 07901.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MPs could have their summer holiday extended to three months under reported Conservative plans to stifle rebellion against Theresa May.

Parliament would rise sooner than the planned date of 20 July, while the September sitting would be scrapped, resulting in a summer break of as long as 12 weeks, according to the proposals.

er ...?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:14 pm

Mr Brexit eyes Europe:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 07966.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit: Tim Martin’s JD Wetherspoon announces £13m investment in EU
The chain is ploughing €15m into developing a new pub and 98-bedroom hotel in Dublin city centre, which will create 200 new jobs in the Republic of Ireland

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:18 pm

Everything just seems to be going splendid, then??

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:24 pm

The Donaeld:

Donaeld The Unready‏ @donaeldunready 7h7 hours ago
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Magic money Ash tree discovered in Dal Raitan province of Ulster! Blooms there but roots actually in Wessex. #ashforcash

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 7:30 pm

Watching our honorable gov's modus operandum, am wondering why I bother to take my job at all seriously.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:12 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/9 ... l-10691733" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:14 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 07901.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MPs could have their summer holiday extended to three months under reported Conservative plans to stifle rebellion against Theresa May.

Parliament would rise sooner than the planned date of 20 July, while the September sitting would be scrapped, resulting in a summer break of as long as 12 weeks, according to the proposals.
er ...?

Maybe the Tory mps could have an extended break, to calm their nerves, whilst the other parties hold the fort. Or just let the new intake of MPs have the house to themselves for a few weeks & get some hands on experience as a confidence building exercise.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:15 pm

Theresa May found out what voters wanted – then she handed £1bn of our money to the DUP to ignore us
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/con ... 08716.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:16 pm

So what is the ordinary voter meant to make of the deal Theresa May has just made with the Democratic Unionist Party, whose neanderthal social views have proved to be no barrier to them securing £1bn worth of sweeteners in return for seeking to guarantee the hard version Brexit the ordinary voters rejected?

BUT IT'S THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:23 pm

continuing from last night:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/ ... itter-joke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Twitter joke about Barry Gibb's Glastonbury 'covers' descends into farce

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:27 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ll-cartoon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

M.Rowson

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:34 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... new-career" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:43 pm

Political leaders from every home nation attacked it, with one branding it a “stitch-up”, another calling it a “shoddy little deal” and others warning it threatened peace in Northern Ireland.

But Ms May insisted it served “the whole United Kingdom”, while her ministers pointed out the full amount of money would only be delivered if Sinn Fein returned to power-sharing in Northern Ireland, breaking a three-month deadlock at Stormont.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 09416.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Indeed. Serves the whole of the UK to undermine the WOTP by using public money to buy a majority that the actual WOTP has just denied them.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:48 pm

“What we are seeing in the political negotiating team is people who don’t really understand how the EU works and are now just beginning to discover it very late in the day,” she said at the Institute for International and European Affairs.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.3134701" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:49 pm

Speaking on anti-EU bias in the British press, Ms Day said that the media’s view that the UK was considered to have “caved in” by accepting the EU’s sequencing was “not a good sign of things to come.”
“If you have a simplistic mentality that every negotiating session Britain has to win otherwise it’s losing, it is going to make the mood music and the actual handling of the negotiations much more difficult,” she said.

We deserve better than our press, but how do we get it?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 8:55 pm

Do your own ironing.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:00 pm

(appalled at thought of ironing emoticon)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:02 pm

(Which I rarely do on they are meant to look like that it's the style basis)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:13 pm

Once managed to iron own hand in supposed teaching blind/visually impaired students.Also blew up microwave and sliced finger,so put on mobility,even then dual walking into lampposts incidents.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:17 pm

Had my own" Accident"book.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:19 pm

Mr A - you may find this useful:
https://en-gb.facebook.com/ExtremeIroningOfficial/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:24 pm

The go-karting incident,it took some time to get several layers of tyres of us as a hint,become part of folklore.Nobody got hurt,think some elf and safety nonsense about at least one person with the ability to see at all/not put a blindfold on,ensued.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:26 pm

Cheers,may start with on top of shed as I am a novice.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:31 pm

With a safety net

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:32 pm

please provide images

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:39 pm

Can't promise the upside down thing and I will have to ask a neighbour to assist,but I will do my best.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:44 pm

"Extreme ironers from Hell"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 9:55 pm

Have undertaken feasibility study,and have been as far as on top of shed with ironing board.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:14 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... tist-spain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Court orders Salvador Dalí's body be exhumed for paternity test

https://www.salvador-dali.org/en/museum ... /historia/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:17 pm

HindleA wrote:Have undertaken feasibility study,and have been as far as on top of shed with ironing board.

Excellent news

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:18 pm

HindleA wrote:Can't promise the upside down thing and I will have to ask a neighbour to assist,but I will do my best.

perhaps in your closet a la bat?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:27 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Speaking on anti-EU bias in the British press, Ms Day said that the media’s view that the UK was considered to have “caved in” by accepting the EU’s sequencing was “not a good sign of things to come.”
“If you have a simplistic mentality that every negotiating session Britain has to win otherwise it’s losing, it is going to make the mood music and the actual handling of the negotiations much more difficult,” she said.
We deserve better than our press, but how do we get it?

The most straightforward answer is what it has long been - stop buying them. And slowly but equally surely, that happening does appear to be the case.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:32 pm

Oh this can't be real. Incredible fail by Britain First

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:35 pm

#Brexit: British manufacturing says there is a ‘tipping point after which it becomes almost impossible to retain or attract employees from Europe’
https://www.eureporter.co/economy/2017/ ... om-europe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The EEF, the UK’s organisation representing British manufacturing have found that a third of manufacturers surveyed said that their business needs cannot be found among UK nationals, while others say they recruit EU nationals because they have a better work ethic, have foreign language skills, or because they are part of an intra-company transfer programme. The EEF is warning that the UK is in danger of reaching a tipping point where the UK will no longer be able to attract new employees.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:36 pm

19) basket-case Brexit.

The real and only Brexit. We shouldn't do it.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:37 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 26 Jun, 2017 10:39 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
#Brexit: British manufacturing says there is a ‘tipping point after which it becomes almost impossible to retain or attract employees from Europe’
https://www.eureporter.co/economy/2017/ ... om-europe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The EEF, the UK’s organisation representing British manufacturing have found that a third of manufacturers surveyed said that their business needs cannot be found among UK nationals, while others say they recruit EU nationals because they have a better work ethic, have foreign language skills, or because they are part of an intra-company transfer programme. The EEF is warning that the UK is in danger of reaching a tipping point where the UK will no longer be able to attract new employees.

The "better work ethic" is a bit too Brittania Unchained for my liking, but the rest - yes.