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Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 3:15 pm
by HindleA
Have PM'd PF with a PTO in an attempt to avert her going off on one.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 3:20 pm
by HindleA
Seems a bit silly to exhibit the "elements"you bemoan to make yourself technically correct.You would think you would just try and stop yourself.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 3:27 pm
by HindleA
PF hopefully the different method wasn't too traumatic for you.You made it at least.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 3:31 pm
by HindleA
Auditions for the cat orchestra turning a bit chaotic.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 3:36 pm
by PorFavor
Poor Harriet Harman. She's only been an MP for five minutes (since 1982). She wasn't to know what would happen. And she'd been assured that the new Daily Politics anchor (Andrew Neil) would be a soft touch. And as for the rest of them . . .




Edited - "Daily Politics" for "Politics Live"

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:01 pm
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:Auditions for the cat orchestra turning a bit chaotic.

Tuba playing cats are renowned for being very temperamental and disruptive. I'll have to re-think the programme.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:30 pm
by HindleA
Brass section,generally a nightmare to deal with,in my experience.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:39 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... od-scandal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Full statutory inquiry to be held into tainted blood scandal
Inquiry into how contaminated blood infected thousands moved from health department to Cabinet Office after pressure from families

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:40 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/teacher-net ... o-teach-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Emotional intelligence: why it matters and how to teach it

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:49 pm
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41861154" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Conservatives publish new code of conduct for MPs


https://www.conservatives.com/codeofconduct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 4:57 pm
by HindleA
http://www.onlondon.co.uk/vic-keegans-l ... -vauxhall/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Vic Keegan’s Lost London 13: Mesolithic Vauxhall

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 5:06 pm
by tinyclanger2
HindleA wrote:Have PM'd PF with a PTO in an attempt to avert her going off on one.
Which, let's all face it, is becoming a habit.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 5:09 pm
by tinyclanger2
Clanger :heart: Brexit (not)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 87458.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Most foreign firms fear Brexit will harm their British operations, poll finds

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 5:35 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... anuliensis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


New species of orangutan discovered in Sumatra – and is already endangered

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:04 pm
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41857694" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


German police find 'WW2 bomb' was big courgette

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:19 pm
by PorFavor
tinyclanger2 wrote:Clanger :heart: Brexit (not)

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 87458.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Most foreign firms fear Brexit will harm their British operations, poll finds
Oh, get a grip you remoaner. I really don't know what you're worrying about.
'No deal' Brexit could add £930 a year to UK shopping bills, say experts

Poorer families and unemployed will be especially badly hit, says thinktank report calculating cost of walking away from EU without trade deal (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ay-experts

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:26 pm
by PorFavor
Man found living in 'coffin-like' cupboard in east London

Inspectors believe man was paying £250 a month to rent space under stairs with no ventilation and room for only a mattress (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ast-london

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:37 pm
by RogerOThornhill
I see Toady is still whining about that bloody article being taken down.

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A 'free speech martyr'?

:rofl:

Honestly, those people who get jailed for their opinions under repressive regimes don't know when they're well off...

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:52 pm
by Willow904
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 6.html?amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jeremy Hunt faces legal action over attempts to 'Americanise' the NHS

Exclusive: Senior health professionals and campaigners have now come together to take legal action and demand a judicial review
Very concerning.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 6:56 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Votes at 16 bill "talked out" by Tory MPs, I see. Not surprising but still shabby.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 7:30 pm
by AngryAsWell
MPs should hold schools to account over safeguarding issues, an education minister has claimed.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/minister-mps- ... n-schools/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 7:42 pm
by Willow904
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/ng-i ... al-warming" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The three-degree world: the cities that will be drowned by global warming

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 7:42 pm
by RogerOThornhill
AngryAsWell wrote:MPs should hold schools to account over safeguarding issues, an education minister has claimed.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/minister-mps- ... n-schools/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Most reaction to that I've seen is of the *rolls eyes* kind.

There's a confusion in there between safeguarding (ensuring that the adults who work in the school have been fully checked out before appointment or before they get to work with pupils), and sexual harassment between pupils.

Ofsted check for the former by looking at the Single Central Record* and talk to the link governor** for safeguarding but don't to my knowledge check the latter.***

* By coincidence our link governor for safeguarding reported only the other night that she'd checked it for those teachers who had started in September and found all was well. That link governor post is one of only two statutory ones we have - that and for SEN (which I do).

** Incidentally, we all have to be CRB checked too.

*** Well, I guess they might if they had complaints from parents that nothing had been done about any incidents.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 8:10 pm
by AngryAsWell
Exclusive: Top-earning academy bosses revealed
More than £21 million is spent on salaries of top-paid academy employees, Tes analysis reveals

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... s-revealed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 8:49 pm
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:09 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... ampionship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

England blunders prove costly at European team championship in Crete

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:18 pm
by RogerOThornhill
And after the earlier allegation of Clive Lewis doing a bit of buttock groping, we have...
Laura Kuenssberg‏Verified account @bbclaurak 12m12 minutes ago
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Tories to remove whip from Charlie Elphicke after serious allegation, statement coming now

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:20 pm
by RogerOThornhill
And this sounds more serious...
Laura Kuenssberg‏Verified account @bbclaurak 10m10 minutes ago
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Julian Smith-‘I have suspended the Conservative Party Whip from Charlie Elphicke MP following serious allegations.. referred to the police."

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:53 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Six local council byelections yesterday, and something of a trend visible this week:

Arun DC - LibDem gain from Tory with over half the vote and a swing of over 20%. This is a traditionally safe Tory area and the present ward safely returned 2 councillors for them in the 2015 (post boundary change) elections, though UKIP took a reasonable second place - they did not even stand this time and the LibDems took advantage to storm from 3rd and last then to first now. Tories themselves down from nearly half the vote two years ago to barely a third now - Labour stood this time round but were unable to match other recent good results on the south coast, having to content themselves with a modest 8%. That was still double what the Greens, another new entrant, got though.

South Bucks DC/Buckinghamshire CC - this "dual vacancy" by contrast saw safe Tory holds in both contests; the DC ward saw a Tory win over UKIP in a straight fight by 85-15 in 2015 (again, the first post boundary change election) this time round UKIP vacated the field and the LibDems stepped in but the Tories still won by around 3 to 1. The CC division had again saw UKIP finish second in 2013, beating the LibDems this time but they fell to last place earlier this year and now also left this one as a straight Tory/LibDem fight - they secured this one with over 80%. A bit disappointing to see Labour absent in both of these (they had fought the CC seat this May)

Copeland DC - Labour hold, though by just 5 per cent over the Tories in yet another straight fight. The recent electoral history of this area doesn't really need retelling, of course - this ward has returned 3 Labour councillors at every election since 2003, but the Tories were competitive in 2007 and their sole candidate also wasn't far behind the last Labour runner in the most recent 2015 contest. That contest also saw a significant vote for Independent candidates, and in their absence this time the Tories benefited more (though both parties were well up on two years ago) Labour will be pleased at any hold in the circumstances, though.

Sefton - LibDem gain from Tory, augmenting their recent success in this historically mainly Tory ward after they won it last year (apart from 2012, the Tories have won every other election here since taking all 3 seats in the 2004 all-out elections) This was a gain due to the incumbent Tory councillor having been elected in 2015, the LibDems fielded a high profile candidate - the former MP for Southport - and were rewarded with a ten point increase on even last year to well over half the vote beating the Tories by over 2 to 1 (and a swing of fully 19% since two years ago) Labour third with little change whilst UKIP - in their only showing this week - fell from 10% a year ago to just 2% now. Greens just behind in last, also down.

North Devon DC - the third LibDem gain from Tory this week, though the Greens weren't far off pooping their party in this one. This ward was LibDem in the 1990s but in recent years has had a more varied history, splitting 1Ind/1Con in 2003 and 1Con/1LD in 2011, whilst in 2007 and 2015 the Tories took both seats but the LibDems were a handful of votes short from getting one on each occasion. They in fact only increased modestly on their score two years ago, whilst the Greens built on their respectable 3rd place then with a double figure increase to over 30% of the vote. Tories crashed into third with their vote roughly halved, not that far ahead of Labour who managed a healthy increase to 13%.

Five contests next week.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:55 pm
by HindleA
Thanks

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 9:58 pm
by tinyclanger2
Boris Johnson 'disappointed and mystified' at closure of police station being shut under policy he introduced
Foreign Secretary voices opposition to planned closure, despite having earmarked 65 police stations for closure during his time in City Hall
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 35396.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:09 pm
by AngryAsWell
Out of idle curiosity - and with no grounds to back up any conspiracy ideas - has anyone checked if MP's now being outed are on the remain or brexit side ? or are they balanced ?

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:15 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Hopkins is one of Labour's few hardline anti-EU MPs who voted with the Tories on the recent "Henry VIII powers" bill. For whatever that is worth.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:31 pm
by tinybgoat
AngryAsWell wrote:Out of idle curiosity - and with no grounds to back up any conspiracy ideas - has anyone checked if MP's now being outed are on the remain or brexit side ? or are they balanced ?
Probably tend to lean towards the 'shake it all about' tendency.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:37 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
It has emerged that the Labour activist who has accused Hopkins recently worked for......Michael Dugher. That is only going to encourage suspicions I'm afraid.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:41 pm
by gilsey
Ann Pettifor on the interest rate rise.
http://www.primeeconomics.org/articles/ ... not-fix-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The prolonged and painfully weak recovery is regularly blamed on something defined as “productivity”. By shifting responsibility for economic failure on to productivity, the Bank, Treasury and OBR economists are saying that somehow economic failure is inherent to the economy – to businesses and especially to workers. “Nothing to do with us, guv” they mutter.

They add that the situation has been exacerbated by the vote to leave the EU. This is a handy way of denying that the ongoing economic failure of the British economy (and the Brexit vote) can be explained by austerity policies, and the failures of the financial system.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 10:43 pm
by gilsey
tinyclanger2 wrote:Boris Johnson 'disappointed and mystified' at closure of police station being shut under policy he introduced
Foreign Secretary voices opposition to planned closure, despite having earmarked 65 police stations for closure during his time in City Hall
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 35396.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Up there with Cameron's letter to Oxford CC about the libraries. :roll:

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 11:06 pm
by HindleA
PE mentioning the fact that if you happen to be weekly paid,and it is happens to be a "five week month",you can lose all UC that month and have to reapply for the next.

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 11:25 pm
by Willow904
AnatolyKasparov wrote:It has emerged that the Labour activist who has accused Hopkins recently worked for......Michael Dugher. That is only going to encourage suspicions I'm afraid.
Suspicions of what, exactly? She says she made a complaint a couple of years ago and Hopkins was reprimanded. This is either true or it isn't and is easily checkable, surely. The complaint may have been minor in nature or it may not, but how would her working for Dugher recently have influenced her to feel strongly enough to have made a complaint back then?

The reaction to Kate Maltby and Ava Etemadzadeh is interesting in that it is similar from either side of the political divide. And neatly illustrates why all those women who had uncomfortable encounters with Harvey Weinstein but in which nothing really happened in the end didn't take it anywhere. Because in a situation of one person's word against another, the person in the position of power is almost always given the benefit of the doubt and the motives of the accuser are almost always questioned.

At least the Labour party is investigating their accusation, that's the important point as far as I'm concerned. What are the Tories doing about Damien Green?

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2017 11:56 pm
by HindleA
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 36011.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Sat 04 Nov, 2017 12:37 am
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... organogram" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Corporate report
Department for Exiting the European Union: senior team organogram

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Sat 04 Nov, 2017 2:07 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... roove-back" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Guardian view on vinyl: getting its groove back
Editorial

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Sat 04 Nov, 2017 2:10 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... date-7-may" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Paul Manafort and Rick Gates trial date set for 7 May

Re: Friday 3rd November 2017

Posted: Sat 04 Nov, 2017 2:25 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... n-a-decade" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Complaints about NSW disability services at highest level in a decade
State accused of ‘clocking off’ ahead of transition to NDIS as ombudsman’s figures show reports of mistreatment, assault and neglect up by 14% in past year