Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:13 pm
Hmmm - I wonder if we'll ever know!PorFavor wrote: I feel that he would be very unhappy if remain won.
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Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:26 pm
Well, if a second referendum were held and "Leave" prevailed we'd have a reasonable idea!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hmmm - I wonder if we'll ever know!PorFavor wrote: I feel that he would be very unhappy if remain won.
Which would be fair enough (although I'd be very disappointed at such a result). But I could at least continue to vote Labour without the heaviness I feel at present.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:29 pm
I've been following news all afternoon. The contradictions and incomplete information reported have made it impossible for me to sort out what's currently going on. I'm withholding judgement until I know more.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 8:56 pm
I've never been a fan of Jess Phillips (although she's growing on me - has she toned it down a bit or am I just getting used to her?). Any road up, I agree with everything she's just said about a 2nd referendum.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:21 pm
Busted Lib clash flibustering (4,4).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:21 pm
As I've said before I think she's outstanding when pointing in the right direction.PorFavor wrote:I've never been a fan of Jess Phillips (although she's growing on me - has she toned it down a bit or am I just getting used to her?). Any road up, I agree with everything she's just said about a 2nd referendum.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:23 pm
He's just now shut up. Praise be!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Busted Lib clash flibustering (4,4).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:29 pm
@PaulfromYorkshire
By the way - is that similar to fly-tipping? (Although in the case of Bill Cash, the answer has to be "yes".)
By the way - is that similar to fly-tipping? (Although in the case of Bill Cash, the answer has to be "yes".)
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:31 pm
Nick Boles MP
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@NickBoles
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.
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9:16 PM - Apr 3, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:39 pm
I've just seen that he was described as a Brexiter in a profile that the Indy did when he joined No 10.PorFavor wrote:Nick Boles MP
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@NickBoles
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.
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9:16 PM - Apr 3, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Amazing how many of the people in charge of politics at the lefty BBC turn out to be right wing...
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:45 pm
Robbie Gibb, if I remember correctly, was in the Federation of Conservative Students, famously disbanded in the 80s by Norman Tebbit for being too extreme even for him.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 9:55 pm
I see the "Oh, but poor Robbie can't defend himself" line is coming out from the usual suspects.
Er, no...he's not a civil servant like Olly Robbins but a political appointee.
And DFH is clearly trying to line himself up for a No 10 job...
Er, no...he's not a civil servant like Olly Robbins but a political appointee.
And DFH is clearly trying to line himself up for a No 10 job...
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:09 pm
Voting now on the Cooper bill.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:12 pm
Rejected
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:12 pm
Senior Labour source telling me today's talks did not go as well as initially thought:
'May offered nothing today. Unless tomorrow's talks change the narrative it seems to be a waste of time.'
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:19 pm
Or perhaps not.tinyclanger2 wrote:Rejected
What's your source?
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:19 pm
Thanks. I thought I'd heard that but couldn't track it down.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:20 pm
I think that was one of the thousands of amendments we have to wade through.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Or perhaps not.tinyclanger2 wrote:Rejected
What's your source?
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:20 pm
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Or perhaps not.tinyclanger2 wrote:Rejected
What's your source?
The Guardian wrote:I just made an error: the vote hasn’t failed, an amendment by the former minister George Eustice was just defeated by 304 ayes to 313 noes.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:22 pm
I think they are voting on amendments to the Cooper bill.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:24 pm
Ok - the grain live thing was my source
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:25 pm
Graun
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:25 pm
Not grain
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:26 pm
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:28 pm
G says final votes expected around midnight.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I think they are voting on amendments to the Cooper bill.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:32 pm
Jennifer-Anne Scott
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The government amendment to Yvette Cooper's bill was defeated 220 to 400. That is a majority against of 180. It is the second biggest government defeat in modern times, after the first meaningful vote. #Politics2019
@NifS
48 seconds ago
The government amendment to Yvette Cooper's bill was defeated 220 to 400. That is a majority against of 180. It is the second biggest government defeat in modern times, after the first meaningful vote. #Politics2019
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:32 pm
Stephen Barclay's amendment defeated massively. Does anyone know what it said? I've lost the will to live (Cash-itis).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:32 pm
Do you?PorFavor wrote: I feel that he would be very unhappy if remain won.
I don't think he would mind at all.
I think McDonnell in particular would be very happy to take over the mantle of 'party of business', now the tories have discarded it.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:33 pm
Here we go again - snap!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Jennifer-Anne Scott
@NifS
48 seconds ago
The government amendment to Yvette Cooper's bill was defeated 220 to 400. That is a majority against of 180. It is the second biggest government defeat in modern times, after the first meaningful vote. #Politics2019
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:35 pm
Is brexit the worst thing Cameron did or does the FTPA take the prize? Is there a precedent for a govt being able to stumble on, unable to get its business through the house?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Jennifer-Anne Scott
@NifS
48 seconds ago
The government amendment to Yvette Cooper's bill was defeated 220 to 400. That is a majority against of 180. It is the second biggest government defeat in modern times, after the first meaningful vote. #Politics2019
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:38 pm
"would have ensured that nothing in the bill could have limited the power of government to seek an extension in their own way."PorFavor wrote:Stephen Barclay's amendment defeated massively. Does anyone know what it said? I've lost the will to live (Cash-itis).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:48 pm
Anne Main amendment lost (saying that extension shouldn't go beyond 22nd May).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 10:59 pm
Ridiculous inane man loses amendment (4,4).
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:01 pm
Cash amendment loses?
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:02 pm
Just one more I read.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:04 pm
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Ridiculous inane man loses amendment (4,4).
No - voting on his one now . . .
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:07 pm
Which is an amendment to prevent any more amendments!
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:08 pm
PorFavor wrote:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Ridiculous inane man loses amendment (4,4).
No - voting on his one now . . .
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:10 pm
OK - here we go.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:26 pm
By 1
Aye - 313
No - 312
Aye - 313
No - 312
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:26 pm
Ayes: 313
Noes: 312
Constance counting her whiskers.
Noes: 312
Constance counting her whiskers.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:26 pm
Won by one!
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:26 pm
Snap snap
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:29 pm
Oh - joy! Mark Francois. Apparently winning by one vote doesn't count.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:34 pm
And Steve Baker sends out the call for a filibuster in the Lords.PorFavor wrote:Oh - joy! Mark Francois. Apparently winning by one vote doesn't count.
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Wed 03 Apr, 2019 11:41 pm
Steve Baker describes it as "a democratic outrage".
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Thu 04 Apr, 2019 12:03 am
Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA
love,
cJA
Re: Wednesday 3rd April 2019
Posted: Thu 04 Apr, 2019 12:03 am
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Expectation though is that after a long time and unlimited number of votes and amendments, there are overwhelming numbers in the Lords to get the Cooper Letwin bill passed “after a very long night”.
11:53 PM - 3 Apr 2019