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Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 4:10 pm
by TechnicalEphemera
Weird stuff, the New Statesman puts the boot in and up pops the ever reliable John Rentoul on PMQs.
— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul)
November 5, 2014
Don't agree with scoring #PMQs but Ed Miliband won that 6-0.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 4:53 pm
by letsskiptotheleft
Hear that the Red Faced ****** refused to deny at PMQs that a rise in VAT would pay for any tax cuts.

And still, there are those, out there would still consider voting for him.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 4:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
PorFavor wrote:Can anyone here take at stab at explaining what he's talking about, please?

Debbie Abrahams, a Labour MP, says that 75% of the increase in employment is self-employment, and that the average income for self-employed people is £10,000 a year. The jobs are not out there, she says.

Duncan Smith says he does not accept that. More than two-thirds in the rise in self-employment comes from full-time self-employment, he says. (Andrew Sparrow, Guardian)
"I don't accept that" is the formula they've learnt- Lansley used to do that as well. You then assert something else, which doesn't answer the question.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:00 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm no longer surprised but still disappointed. There are millions of people who've been awarded back pay by the tribunal. Surely Miliband could be going for this? It's money they've earned by law. Sure, some flexibility for employers to pay the claim could be needed. But he has to take the lead in getting this moving.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:16 pm
by rebeccariots2
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Can anyone here take at stab at explaining what he's talking about, please?

Debbie Abrahams, a Labour MP, says that 75% of the increase in employment is self-employment, and that the average income for self-employed people is £10,000 a year. The jobs are not out there, she says.

Duncan Smith says he does not accept that. More than two-thirds in the rise in self-employment comes from full-time self-employment, he says. (Andrew Sparrow, Guardian)
"I don't accept that" is the formula they've learnt- Lansley used to do that as well. You then assert something else, which doesn't answer the question.
Yes - they've also got 'I don't recognise those figures / findings' to trot out whenever they don't like some statistics or research. It's a quite meaningless statement ... a sort of faux denial, usually followed by their own rubbish belief assertion. McVey has been programmed with a failure to recognise anything other than her own voice.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
seeingclearly wrote:Good Morning

Divide and Conquer the North

http://thepublicinterestsheffield.blogs ... l?spref=fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he's a bit pessimistic there.

The chance of a Tory mayor winning Sheffield isn't very high. When Johnson won in 2008, the Tories were doing well in London. In 2012, he only just won even with all the help from the media. There isn't a Tory alive who could do that in Sheffield.

I don't think anyone is fooled by who's making the cuts either just because responsibility is devolved.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:24 pm
by pk1
Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm no longer surprised but still disappointed. There are millions of people who've been awarded back pay by the tribunal. Surely Miliband could be going for this? It's money they've earned by law. Sure, some flexibility for employers to pay the claim could be needed. But he has to take the lead in getting this moving.
What do you expect him to say ?

AFAIK the judgement applies to payments within the last three months so I doubt it's as wide-ranging as was being made out. It also only applies to those who are mandated to work overtime, not voluntarily so I suspect that reduces the numbers considerably.

The BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29896810" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The tribunal also ruled that workers can make backdated claims, but only for a limited period.

However, the ruling could be referred to the Court of Appeal, meaning a final decision may be years away.
Appeals probably will be granted so, as yet, there isn't much he can say or do imo.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:27 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Bizarrely I find myself enjoying a piece recommended by Cathy Newman and written by Dan Hodges

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... r-him.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chuka-Ummana-is-the-only-mainstream-politician-with-the-guts-to-take-on-Ukip.-Good-for-him

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:29 pm
by PaulfromYorkshire
Shame about the spelling in the headline though :lol:

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
pk1 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:I'm no longer surprised but still disappointed. There are millions of people who've been awarded back pay by the tribunal. Surely Miliband could be going for this? It's money they've earned by law. Sure, some flexibility for employers to pay the claim could be needed. But he has to take the lead in getting this moving.
What do you expect him to say ?

AFAIK the judgement applies to payments within the last three months so I doubt it's as wide-ranging as was being made out. It also only applies to those who are mandated to work overtime, not voluntarily so I suspect that reduces the numbers considerably.

The BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29896810" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The tribunal also ruled that workers can make backdated claims, but only for a limited period.

However, the ruling could be referred to the Court of Appeal, meaning a final decision may be years away.
Appeals probably will be granted so, as yet, there isn't much he can say or do imo.
For a start, "left wing Vince Cable" has created a working group which consists entirely of employer organisations and his BIS appointees. Someone looking out for the other side needs to be on there. A retired, not particularly leftist, trade union leader should be suggested by Miliband.

As you say, it's a fairly modest finding- it was possible the tribunal would go back to 1998.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:37 pm
by letsskiptotheleft
Have Labour selected a candidate for Frank Dobson's seat yet?

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:46 pm
by rebeccariots2
After a run of very difficult and stressful days and lousy weather - I am celebrating today's sunshine and a couple of good things happening with a small brandy.

We've had an unexpected bit of good luck that hopefully will make things a bit easier for our sick dog and us in the months to come - and has given us an interesting insight into drug companies and medication licences, profits and costs. She has failing kidneys - not that common in a dog - especially a young dog. We need to help her by reducing the amount of protein sloshing around in her blood and urine - but for various reasons neither I nor the vet are particularly keen to use the normal ace inhibitors. There is another drug which can act much more specifically on the protein reduction, and has far less of the downsides caused by the normal ace inhibitors - but in animal medicine it is only licensed for cats not dogs (presumably because they don't suffer so much from the conditions it is normally used for). We could use the cat formula for a dog ... but the vet worked out that in the amounts we would need for our dog it would be in excess of £150 a month.

Vets can only prescribe medicines according to a cascade system - i.e. they have to have good justifications for not opting for a standard medicine, and then again for a medicine that isn't licensed for the particular species etc - and so on down the reasoning chain. Suffice it to say that I am actually very happy to have been classified as a 'non compliant owner' at various stages of this justification - along with cost prohibitive - so that our wonderful vet has been able to prescribe the human form for us at the outrageous sum of .... wait for it .... £5.88 per month.

I think we know where quite a lot of the profit margin on such drugs is coming from - our furry friends market.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:50 pm
by rebeccariots2
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Shame about the spelling in the headline though :lol:
Isn't ummana the term for the ultimate yum factor in food? Or something very like it?

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 5:56 pm
by rebeccariots2
Who said it: David Cameron or an eight-year-old?

A quiz inspired by David Cameron’s performance at prime minister’s questions today, where he blew a raspberry at Ed Miliband and accused Labour of being “chicken” (OK, the first part is not true). Featuring i100.co.uk contributor Ollie, eight.

With apologies to all eight-year-olds.

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/w ... ekct2q8Evx

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:02 pm
by yahyah
rebeccariots2 wrote:After a run of very difficult and stressful days and lousy weather - I am celebrating today's sunshine and a couple of good things happening with a small brandy.

We've had an unexpected bit of good luck that hopefully will make things a bit easier for our sick dog and us in the months to come - and has given us an interesting insight into drug companies and medication licences, profits and costs. She has failing kidneys - not that common in a dog - especially a young dog. We need to help her by reducing the amount of protein sloshing around in her blood and urine - but for various reasons neither I nor the vet are particularly keen to use the normal ace inhibitors. There is another drug which can act much more specifically on the protein reduction, and has far less of the downsides caused by the normal ace inhibitors - but in animal medicine it is only licensed for cats not dogs (presumably because they don't suffer so much from the conditions it is normally used for). We could use the cat formula for a dog ... but the vet worked out that in the amounts we would need for our dog it would be in excess of £150 a month.

Vets can only prescribe medicines according to a cascade system - i.e. they have to have good justifications for not opting for a standard medicine, and then again for a medicine that isn't licensed for the particular species etc - and so on down the reasoning chain. Suffice it to say that I am actually very happy to have been classified as a 'non compliant owner' at various stages of this justification - along with cost prohibitive - so that our wonderful vet has been able to prescribe the human form for us at the outrageous sum of .... wait for it .... £5.88 per month.

I think we know where quite a lot of the profit margin on such drugs is coming from - our furry friends market.

Hope your dog responds well to the treatment Rebecca, and glad you have a vet who is helpful to humans as well as animals.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:03 pm
by pk1
Good news RR2 - a co-operative vet is worth his weight in gold.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:05 pm
by rebeccariots2
I hadn't realised other lemmings had jumped after Norman Baker ...
Chickens! Three Lib Dems quit government to distance themselves from the coalition ahead of election drubbing in 2015
A total of three Lib Dem MPs have quit the government to focus on seats
Whips Mark Hunter and Jenny Willott follow Norman Baker in leaving

Has been suggested they want to distance themselves from coalition
It comes amid fears the Lib Dems could be in for an election drubbing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -2015.html

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:08 pm
by rebeccariots2
pk1 wrote:Good news RR2 - a co-operative vet is worth his weight in gold.
She is PK - she very definitely is.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:18 pm
by Rebecca
rebeccariots2 wrote:
pk1 wrote:Good news RR2 - a co-operative vet is worth his weight in gold.
She is PK - she very definitely is.
My local vets are pretty dire.
They have introduced a pet health plan,for a monthly payment(depending on the size of pet)each animal gets flea/worming,yearly vaccines,2 health checks per year,and access to nurse clinics.Sounds ok,but I strongly suspect sales of expensive products will be pushed.
However,unless you are involved in the plan,the vets won't routinely check over an animal.So,when my pup went for her vaccines they did nothing bar giving an injection,no advice,no weight,no general health check.So,as the vaccines cost only £7(ex husband is a vet),what is the rest of the fee for?
A fellow dog walker took his 2 year old dog because he wouldn't put a paw down.Ended up paying £86 for arthritis treatment,the vet refused to look at the paw unless dog was sedated,cost £160,'in case it bites'.There was a long grass seed stuck in the paw which the owner took out.
Anyway,glad you have a good vet.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:19 pm
by rebeccariots2
It looks like Lynton Crosby may have nicked some of IDS's superb policy ideas and exported the hugely successful bedroom tax to his homeland ... I hadn't realised Australia was behind us in taxing everything that doesn't move.
Public housing tenants prefer to pay more under the new 'bedroom tax'
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/stor ... e/?cs=4110

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:25 pm
by rebeccariots2
Rebecca wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
pk1 wrote:Good news RR2 - a co-operative vet is worth his weight in gold.
She is PK - she very definitely is.
My local vets are pretty dire.
They have introduced a pet health plan,for a monthly payment(depending on the size of pet)each animal gets flea/worming,yearly vaccines,2 health checks per year,and access to nurse clinics.Sounds ok,but I strongly suspect sales of expensive products will be pushed.
However,unless you are involved in the plan,the vets won't routinely check over an animal.So,when my pup went for her vaccines they did nothing bar giving an injection,no advice,no weight,no general health check.So,as the vaccines cost only £7(ex husband is a vet),what is the rest of the fee for?
A fellow dog walker took his 2 year old dog because he wouldn't put a paw down.Ended up paying £86 for arthritis treatment,the vet refused to look at the paw unless dog was sedated,cost £160,'in case it bites'.There was a long grass seed stuck in the paw which the owner took out.
Anyway,glad you have a good vet.
Commiserations. That sounds bloody awful. We've been there with awful, disinterested and slack vets over the years. We are actually very lucky that this particular vet has come back from maternity leave when we most need her ... we wouldn't go to any of the other vets in the practice unless it was a terrible emergency. Trouble is - we have virtually no choice - we have to travel a good 40 minutes or so to get to another vets - and they were generally no better, as we found out.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 6:34 pm
by Rebecca
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Rebecca wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: She is PK - she very definitely is.
My local vets are pretty dire.
They have introduced a pet health plan,for a monthly payment(depending on the size of pet)each animal gets flea/worming,yearly vaccines,2 health checks per year,and access to nurse clinics.Sounds ok,but I strongly suspect sales of expensive products will be pushed.
However,unless you are involved in the plan,the vets won't routinely check over an animal.So,when my pup went for her vaccines they did nothing bar giving an injection,no advice,no weight,no general health check.So,as the vaccines cost only £7(ex husband is a vet),what is the rest of the fee for?
A fellow dog walker took his 2 year old dog because he wouldn't put a paw down.Ended up paying £86 for arthritis treatment,the vet refused to look at the paw unless dog was sedated,cost £160,'in case it bites'.There was a long grass seed stuck in the paw which the owner took out.
Anyway,glad you have a good vet.
Commiserations. That sounds bloody awful. We've been there with awful, disinterested and slack vets over the years. We are actually very lucky that this particular vet has come back from maternity leave when we most need her ... we wouldn't go to any of the other vets in the practice unless it was a terrible emergency. Trouble is - we have virtually no choice - we have to travel a good 40 minutes or so to get to another vets - and they were generally no better, as we found out.
Vets in France are very much cheaper.My cat had pins put in after a fractured pelvis,spent 3 days in hospital pre surgery as she had a pneumothorax,and had electomagnetic(?)testing a few weeks later to check out spinal nerve damage.620 euros.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:02 pm
by letsskiptotheleft
Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
From a few months ago. A rather ironic story about Tower Hamlets.

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/eric-pic ... 48.article" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tower Hamlets doing so well at getting affordable housing built, that Eric Pickles gave them additional borrowing rights of £8.2m to build more.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:15 pm
by Spacedone
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
seeingclearly wrote:Good Morning

Divide and Conquer the North

http://thepublicinterestsheffield.blogs ... l?spref=fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he's a bit pessimistic there.

The chance of a Tory mayor winning Sheffield isn't very high. When Johnson won in 2008, the Tories were doing well in London. In 2012, he only just won even with all the help from the media. There isn't a Tory alive who could do that in Sheffield.

I don't think anyone is fooled by who's making the cuts either just because responsibility is devolved.
I thought it was on the money to be honest. The Tories might not get a mayor in Sheffield but as Doncaster showed just because the council is Labour doesn't mean that the mayor will be and that individual will be invested with a huge amount of unilateral power and the councils will be diminished. The fact that just 2 years after we rejected their attempt to foist a mayor on us they have now come back and made it a stipulation in any increased regional power makes me extremely suspicious as to why they are so desperate to impose a mayor on us.

What they're trying to do is turn us into city states when what we really need is to work interconnectedly.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:17 pm
by rebeccariots2
Is Ukip the only party that cares about the British countryside?
Using brownfield sites for new homes and offices shouldn’t be a question of left or right: our rural environment must be preserved

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... brownfield
... The Conservatives’ planning reform explicitly gives rural development priority over conservation, even authorising “off-plan” building where local people might object. The concept of sustainable development has been defined as profitable. Identikit warehouse and “volume housing” estates now sprawl across the landscape with no thought for environmental impact or cost to the public infrastructure. It is crazy.

Labour likewise wants to discontinue local planning where councils oppose development. The Liberal Democrats are silent. Only Ukip, sensing its chance, has sided with those pleading for a more considered approach to using green land. Nigel Farage’s speech this year to the Campaign to Protect Rural Engand struck terror into many local Conservative parties...
Oh ... sweet ..... this is utter travesty / lunacy. UKIP as the party for conservation of the countryside / environment ....

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:29 pm
by rebeccariots2
George Eaton @georgeeaton · 19m 19 minutes ago
Significant appointment in Labour reshuffle: left-winger Jon Trickett enters Miliband's office as a senior adviser.
But will he be able to shift anything even a teensy weensy bit leftwards of the Balls impasse?

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:31 pm
by TheGrimSqueaker
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.
The word is she is there to "steady the ship".

http://labourlist.org/2014/11/powell-jo ... ont-bench/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:33 pm
by ChrisDean
Just back from an event in the forest organised by HOOF, trying to get the MSM to notice how the Infrastructure Bill will affect our public woodlands if it passes unamended.


http://www.jonathonporritt.com/blog/infrastructure-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Spacedone wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
seeingclearly wrote:Good Morning

Divide and Conquer the North

http://thepublicinterestsheffield.blogs ... l?spref=fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he's a bit pessimistic there.

The chance of a Tory mayor winning Sheffield isn't very high. When Johnson won in 2008, the Tories were doing well in London. In 2012, he only just won even with all the help from the media. There isn't a Tory alive who could do that in Sheffield.

I don't think anyone is fooled by who's making the cuts either just because responsibility is devolved.
I thought it was on the money to be honest. The Tories might not get a mayor in Sheffield but as Doncaster showed just because the council is Labour doesn't mean that the mayor will be and that individual will be invested with a huge amount of unilateral power and the councils will be diminished. The fact that just 2 years after we rejected their attempt to foist a mayor on us they have now come back and made it a stipulation in any increased regional power makes me extremely suspicious as to why they are so desperate to impose a mayor on us.

What they're trying to do is turn us into city states when what we really need is to work interconnectedly.
But Doncaster had to be nationalized by Whitehall because it was the worst council in the country. You don't need to worry about that.

It's a bigger area than Sheffield, isn't it? I think it's worth engaging with positively though stuff like having an unelected mayor is obviously not acceptable. And the precedent of the referendum in London over the GLA and Mayor needs to be followed.

But there's plenty to be engaging positively with. This is the chance of a sensible sized regional government. I don't think this can work on the basis of councils cooperating. It didn't in London.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:41 pm
by rebeccariots2
ChrisDean wrote:Just back from an event in the forest organised by HOOF, trying to get the MSM to notice how the Infrastructure Bill will affect our public woodlands if it passes unamended.


http://www.jonathonporritt.com/blog/infrastructure-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I really hope they can get some traction in the media re the infrastructure bill - it's very very scary.

I note that Denton in Texas - the home of fracking - has today voted to ban fracking - and many of the comments BTL on the story are pointing out that we in the UK will be pretty powerless to stop anything similar if this bill goes through.

A loud wake up call is needed - urgently.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:47 pm
by citizenJA
The Armitt Review
An independent review of long term infrastructure planning commissioned for Labour’s Policy Review


http://www.yourbritain.org.uk/uploads/e ... Report.pdf

It's not new information, but the final report came out recently. The policy documents have been floating around Labour party policy on Your Britain & where ever else Labour policy is taken seriously.

I've been meaning to post this sooner.

http://www.yourbritain.org.uk/uploads/e ... e_Bill.pdf

Read Part 4
Final Provisions
Consequential duties on financial regulators

Looks like all the essential infrastructure throughout the country is made the responsibility of the Secretary of State & is funding for the infrastructure is provided by the Treasury.

It reads like a democratic piece of legislation worthy of first world nation. I don't know. I could be wrong.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:51 pm
by citizenJA
rebeccariots2 wrote:
ChrisDean wrote:Just back from an event in the forest organised by HOOF, trying to get the MSM to notice how the Infrastructure Bill will affect our public woodlands if it passes unamended.


http://www.jonathonporritt.com/blog/infrastructure-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I really hope they can get some traction in the media re the infrastructure bill - it's very very scary.

I note that Denton in Texas - the home of fracking - has today voted to ban fracking - and many of the comments BTL on the story are pointing out that we in the UK will be pretty powerless to stop anything similar if this bill goes through.

A loud wake up call is needed - urgently.
Oh, wow. I'd like to emphasise the Draft Infrastructure Bill document I've linked to isn't that piece of crap that started out in the House of Lords.

You are very right. Current government's infrastructure bill is very scary indeed.

Infrastructure Bill [HL] 2014-15
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/201 ... cture.html

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:55 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Unsurprisingly,the Republicans took control of the Senate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29910542" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The voter turn out was just as low as any fascist regime could wish. Don't ever believe voting doesn't matter. Voting matters. We must save ourselves here, people.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 7:57 pm
by citizenJA
ChrisDean wrote:Just back from an event in the forest organised by HOOF, trying to get the MSM to notice how the Infrastructure Bill will affect our public woodlands if it passes unamended.


http://www.jonathonporritt.com/blog/infrastructure-bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:07 pm
by citizenJA
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Hear that the Red Faced ****** refused to deny at PMQs that a rise in VAT would pay for any tax cuts.

And still, there are those, out there would still consider voting for him.
Vote hard, people, vote hard, wise & vote like you won't have it next time if you don't use it now because that's probably true.

It is astounding to me.

The State of Massachusetts - the number of registered Democrats is twice the number of registered Republicans now finds itself with a Republican Governor because fewer than half the electorate voted. I think Massachusetts is probably stunned itself - just like so many of the US states.

"What? There was an election? I was supposed to vote?"

God damn California state wide voter turn out of 29%
What are you fukking thinking?!

Please vote.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:13 pm
by PorFavor
Spacedone wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
seeingclearly wrote:Good Morning

Divide and Conquer the North

http://thepublicinterestsheffield.blogs ... l?spref=fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think he's a bit pessimistic there.

The chance of a Tory mayor winning Sheffield isn't very high. When Johnson won in 2008, the Tories were doing well in London. In 2012, he only just won even with all the help from the media. There isn't a Tory alive who could do that in Sheffield.

I don't think anyone is fooled by who's making the cuts either just because responsibility is devolved.
I thought it was on the money to be honest. The Tories might not get a mayor in Sheffield but as Doncaster showed just because the council is Labour doesn't mean that the mayor will be and that individual will be invested with a huge amount of unilateral power and the councils will be diminished. The fact that just 2 years after we rejected their attempt to foist a mayor on us they have now come back and made it a stipulation in any increased regional power makes me extremely suspicious as to why they are so desperate to impose a mayor on us.

What they're trying to do is turn us into city states when what we really need is to work interconnectedly.

Ah - city states. I'd been going on about that for ages (maybe over at the Politics Blog before we came here?).

Anyway, I'm relieved it's not just me.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:13 pm
by citizenJA
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.
The word is she is there to "steady the ship".

http://labourlist.org/2014/11/powell-jo ... ont-bench/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You know what? I've had the luxury of being able to spend many hours of my day researching current affairs & indeed I thought I was well-informed.

Jim Murphy resigned? Miliband shuffles? Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I've been reading poverty reports & Labour party Infrastructure drafts. When I'm not finding out how the Republicans took the US because half the electorate didn't vote.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:14 pm
by PorFavor
Goodnight, everyone.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:15 pm
by citizenJA
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.
I've no idea.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:22 pm
by AngryAsWell
citizenJA wrote:
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.
I've no idea.
Manchester Central MP good ? - hell yes :)

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:34 pm
by citizenJA
AngryAsWell wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
letsskiptotheleft wrote:Lucy Powell any good?

Running Labour's day to day election campaign.
I've no idea.
Manchester Central MP good ? - hell yes :)
Cool!

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 8:58 pm
by AngryAsWell
Shetland Islanders fight plan to force children to boarding school
Published on November 5, 2014, by Tony Harbron
The Guardian has a report from the Shetlands where secondaries on the outlying islands are facing closure which would mean 11-year-olds sent away from home during the week…

http://schoolsimprovement.net/shetland- ... ing-school" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:11 pm
by AngryAsWell
Looks like Lucy is getting stuck right in..
Allegra Stratton
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Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:14 pm
by AngryAsWell
Any ideas for them ?

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Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:26 pm
by citizenJA
good night.

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:28 pm
by AngryAsWell
citizenJA wrote:good night.
Good night JA :) :sleep: well

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:38 pm
by Eric_WLothian
AngryAsWell wrote:Shetland Islanders fight plan to force children to boarding school
Published on November 5, 2014, by Tony Harbron
The Guardian has a report from the Shetlands where secondaries on the outlying islands are facing closure which would mean 11-year-olds sent away from home during the week…

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While the problems are obviously exacerbated by the geography of the islands, they are not peculiar to them. According to the education professionals (as opposed to politicians), there are problems throughout Scotland. (The SNP, of course, blame Westminster).
SCOTLAND’S education leaders have issued a stark warning of widespread classroom cutbacks with courses, teaching materials, support staff and even teachers facing the axe.
The impact of more swingeing budget cuts means “protecting education is not viable”, the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland (ADES) has warned in evidence to MSPs.
Pupils could find themselves being sent home on a “weekly basis” due to a lack of cover, ­according to unions, while recent warnings of a reduction in the school week are also likely to be on the agenda when Holyrood’s education committee considers the issue tomorrow.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/education/ ... -1-3591911
COUNCILS face a “very real risk” of failing to meet legal obligations on education as a result of spending cuts, according to parent groups and teaching unions.
The challenges facing schools are the “worst-kept secret in Scottish education” and teacher workload is a “ticking time bomb”, Holyrood’s Education and Culture Committee has been told.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/education/ ... -1-3593062

Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:49 pm
by AngryAsWell
A northern powerhouse, or an unwelcome imposition? Experts respond to George Osborne’s Greater Manchester Mayor proposals

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Re: Wednesday 5th November 2014

Posted: Wed 05 Nov, 2014 9:51 pm
by howsillyofme1
citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:Unsurprisingly,the Republicans took control of the Senate.

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The voter turn out was just as low as any fascist regime could wish. Don't ever believe voting doesn't matter. Voting matters. We must save ourselves here, people.
Evening everyone

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