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The population of Rochester appears to be about 75% Ukip activists today.

In signs of an emerging strategy that could risk carrying over the controversy about his alleged meddling in politics into his kingship, sources close to the heir say he is set to continue to express concerns and ask questions about issues that matter to him, such as the future of farming and the environment, partly because he believes he has a duty to relay public opinion to those in power...

Courtiers also argue that his 40 years as heir carrying out thousands of engagements across the country and abroad mean he is uniquely well-placed to relay public opinion...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... les-allies

“If he continues to be a controversial figure on issues like complementary medicine and country sports he could precipitate a constitutional crisis if he comes up against a government which is bent on some course of action and he disagrees and refuses to sign the act of parliament."

A Canadian woman who took a vacation to Hawaii while six months pregnant unexpectedly went into labor. Now she and her husband are facing bankruptcy thanks to a $950,000 medical bill for services rendered. The best part about the whole thing? She didn’t even mess up and travel uninsured. She did everything she was supposed to—she bought medical insurance for the trip, got doctor approval, and she still got screwed.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/231378/ ... ign=buffer

Eric_WLothian wrote:Anyone want a laugh? How about this:

In signs of an emerging strategy that could risk carrying over the controversy about his alleged meddling in politics into his kingship, sources close to the heir say he is set to continue to express concerns and ask questions about issues that matter to him, such as the future of farming and the environment, partly because he believes he has a duty to relay public opinion to those in power...

Courtiers also argue that his 40 years as heir carrying out thousands of engagements across the country and abroad mean he is uniquely well-placed to relay public opinion...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... les-allies

Personally, I can't think of anybody less well placed to be aware of public opinion than Chas and his "courtiers" (what a strange, old-fashioned word), except, perhaps, the Tories. ...But there again, one would expect him to be a Tory.
The idea of an over privileged, unelected busybody interfering at the highest level of an elected government (of any colour) seems to me to be abhorrent.
I was pretty much neutral on the issue of the monarchy. Now I'm veering towards supporting a republic.

As Paul Flynn is quoted as saying:

“If he continues to be a controversial figure on issues like complementary medicine and country sports he could precipitate a constitutional crisis if he comes up against a government which is bent on some course of action and he disagrees and refuses to sign the act of parliament."

LadyCentauria wrote:Angus Robertson (SNP Westminster Leader) has just called for the rollout of ESA and PIP to be halted in Scotland, pending the outcome of the process of devolution of further powers to Scotland, so that it can be fully investigated and tested to ensure that the Scottish Parliament would (or would not be) able to deliver it in the event that Social Security matters are further devolved to Scotland.

(Not verbatim, but that is roughly what he said.)

Spacedone wrote: Or as I heard it put more succinctly: "He'd be wise to remember what happened to a previous king called Charles."

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 3m 3 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester: 2 women- 1 works in a Care Home > voting UKIP."I saw EdM on itv - he talks lot of sense, but we're protesting now"

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 8m 8 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester "I'm voting Labour because I'm worried about my knees & the future of the NHS - and I hate Chris Grayling"

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 9m 9 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester: "I used to vote Tory but now UKIP- I sent that Mark Reckless 4 emails & he's never replied"

Tonight, David Dimbleby presents Question Time, the BBC’s reason-immolating squabble-cauldron, from Birmingham...

citizenJA wrote:

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Not bothered about Boris, he is a US citizen and he is refusing to pay US tax on his earnings because it is unfair.

I expect him to end up in serious trouble pretty quickly.

You're correct. The US Internal Revenue Service is not an entity to toy around with. Johnson knows this & if he's still sane, he'll pay - the story is to make him look big, I think, by pretending he's not going to pay.

LadyCentauria wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Not bothered about Boris, he is a US citizen and he is refusing to pay US tax on his earnings because it is unfair.

I expect him to end up in serious trouble pretty quickly.

You're correct. The US Internal Revenue Service is not an entity to toy around with. Johnson knows this & if he's still sane, he'll pay - the story is to make him look big, I think, by pretending he's not going to pay.

Of course, he could always revoke his US citizenship and passport – but would have to be seen by a US Government-appointed psychiatrist, to ensure both that he is of sound mind and is that he is not being coerced by any person or entity, before they would accept his revocation...

Simon Danczuk retweeted
George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 11m11 minutes ago
Lib Dems set to lose their deposit for the 11th time in this parliament in Rochester tonight.

Spacedone wrote:The boffins at CERN have just announced the discovery of two new sub-atomic particles, both of which had been predicted to exist but never before seen.

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2 ... -particles" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I love science

Fiona O'Donnell MP retweeted
Kevin Maguire ‏@Kevin_Maguire 25m25 minutes ago
Just heard the Tory spin on Rochester. It is, in brief: Labour suffer crushing defeat by losing safe Conservative seat to Ukip

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 20h20 hours ago
Wow. This is massive. The Sun finally apologises for trying to smear Labour's Andy Burnham by using Tory NHS Lies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B21XREZCIAAJdXF.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical wrote:

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 20h20 hours ago
Wow. This is massive. The Sun finally apologises for trying to smear Labour's Andy Burnham by using Tory NHS Lies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B21XREZCIAAJdXF.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

onebuttonmonkey wrote:Afternoon all.

It's been a particularly dismal time politically, and I've not had the stamina to do a #bbcqt preview in a while - I can't even bring myself to watch the bloody thing. But this week, being even more bleak than normal, has prompted a particularly long-winded, angry rant about the show and its guests:

http://onebuttonmonkey.squarespace.com/ ... ngham.html

Tonight, David Dimbleby presents Question Time, the BBC’s reason-immolating squabble-cauldron, from Birmingham...

Enjoy, if that's the word...

ohsocynical wrote:

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 20h20 hours ago
Wow. This is massive. The Sun finally apologises for trying to smear Labour's Andy Burnham by using Tory NHS Lies

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B21XREZCIAAJdXF.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Otto English retweeted
Jamie Ross @JamieRoss7 · 5h 5 hours ago
Just spoke to the Monster Raving Loony Party. They are genuinely confident of beating the Lib Dems today.

Spacedone wrote:The boffins at CERN have just announced the discovery of two new sub-atomic particles, both of which had been predicted to exist but never before seen.

http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2 ... -particles" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I love science

Eric_WLothian wrote:

LadyCentauria wrote:Angus Robertson (SNP Westminster Leader) has just called for the rollout of ESA and PIP to be halted in Scotland, pending the outcome of the process of devolution of further powers to Scotland, so that it can be fully investigated and tested to ensure that the Scottish Parliament would (or would not be) able to deliver it in the event that Social Security matters are further devolved to Scotland.

(Not verbatim, but that is roughly what he said.)

The same Angus Robertson that called for the GE to be postponed "so politicians can concentrate on negotiating with Scotland if there is a vote for independence".

Surely, if social security matters are devolved, the Scottish Parliament could do what it wants with ESA and PIP - including scrapping them?

Rachel Garrick ‏@RC_Garrick · 3h3 hours ago  Rochester, South East
#RochesterStrood @naushabahkhan is out there smoking Kippers. She'll be back for breakfast. #TogetherWeKhan (had to be said)

rebeccariots2 wrote:

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 3m 3 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester: 2 women- 1 works in a Care Home > voting UKIP."I saw EdM on itv - he talks lot of sense, but we're protesting now"

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 8m 8 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester "I'm voting Labour because I'm worried about my knees & the future of the NHS - and I hate Chris Grayling"

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry · 9m 9 minutes ago
Tales from #Rochester: "I used to vote Tory but now UKIP- I sent that Mark Reckless 4 emails & he's never replied"

LadyCentauria wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Not bothered about Boris, he is a US citizen and he is refusing to pay US tax on his earnings because it is unfair.

I expect him to end up in serious trouble pretty quickly.

You're correct. The US Internal Revenue Service is not an entity to toy around with. Johnson knows this & if he's still sane, he'll pay - the story is to make him look big, I think, by pretending he's not going to pay.

Of course, he could always revoke his US citizenship and passport – but would have to be seen by a US Government-appointed psychiatrist, to ensure both that he is of sound mind and is that he is not being coerced by any person or entity, before they would accept his revocation...

mikems wrote:The New Era estate campaign needs signatures :

https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should ... 2BHl2n8%3D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA wrote:

LadyCentauria wrote:

citizenJA wrote:You're correct. The US Internal Revenue Service is not an entity to toy around with. Johnson knows this & if he's still sane, he'll pay - the story is to make him look big, I think, by pretending he's not going to pay.

Of course, he could always revoke his US citizenship and passport – but would have to be seen by a US Government-appointed psychiatrist, to ensure both that he is of sound mind and is that he is not being coerced by any person or entity, before they would accept his revocation...

The US IRS follow tax-owning persons to the ends of the earth & beyond to collect. Johnson can do what he wants with his citizenship. They'll get the debt they say he owes. I don't say this with animosity toward either - The IRS' remit transcends the US Military.

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:For the Red Dwarf fans amongst you ....

Rachel Garrick ‏@RC_Garrick · 3h3 hours ago  Rochester, South East
#RochesterStrood @naushabahkhan is out there smoking Kippers. She'll be back for breakfast. #TogetherWeKhan (had to be said)

Couple of comments on Twitter say that the Guardian are have gone into faux outrage meltdown over a photo posted by Emily Thornberry; kicking off with the "R & S is bad news for Labour" narrative early?

EDIT - Ah, its a Staines/Cole Lynton-approved special which, obviously, any journal of repute would simply ignore .........

ErnstRemarx wrote:

onebuttonmonkey wrote:Afternoon all.

It's been a particularly dismal time politically, and I've not had the stamina to do a #bbcqt preview in a while - I can't even bring myself to watch the bloody thing. But this week, being even more bleak than normal, has prompted a particularly long-winded, angry rant about the show and its guests:

http://onebuttonmonkey.squarespace.com/ ... ngham.html

Tonight, David Dimbleby presents Question Time, the BBC’s reason-immolating squabble-cauldron, from Birmingham...

Enjoy, if that's the word...

Well, I did. Again, the sort of insights and writing that should be available to every thinking person in the UK (so about 50% of the population then). A link to it from FTN should be tweeted fotwith - Adam? Dan?

mbc1955 wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:For the Red Dwarf fans amongst you ....

Rachel Garrick ‏@RC_Garrick · 3h3 hours ago  Rochester, South East
#RochesterStrood @naushabahkhan is out there smoking Kippers. She'll be back for breakfast. #TogetherWeKhan (had to be said)

Couple of comments on Twitter say that the Guardian are have gone into faux outrage meltdown over a photo posted by Emily Thornberry; kicking off with the "R & S is bad news for Labour" narrative early?

EDIT - Ah, its a Staines/Cole Lynton-approved special which, obviously, any journal of repute would simply ignore .........

Yes, this is the piece of shit in question: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... kip-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's getting increasingly ludicrous, the depths into which the paper will sink to mount yet another exercise in Ed-evisceration. The only possible conclusion to be drawn is that the Guardian actively wants a Conservative/UKIP run country in 2015. Is there no-one who will rid us of this turbulent jumped-up gobshite of an editor?

yahyah wrote:Good evening.

Anyone know what time the result is due in or if there's any radio coverage overnight ?

refitman wrote:

yahyah wrote:Good evening.

Anyone know what time the result is due in or if there's any radio coverage overnight ?

Claire Phipps, at the Graun, said they're expecting the result at about 3am.

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:

mbc1955 wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:For the Red Dwarf fans amongst you ....
Couple of comments on Twitter say that the Guardian are have gone into faux outrage meltdown over a photo posted by Emily Thornberry; kicking off with the "R & S is bad news for Labour" narrative early?

EDIT - Ah, its a Staines/Cole Lynton-approved special which, obviously, any journal of repute would simply ignore .........

Yes, this is the piece of shit in question: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... kip-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's getting increasingly ludicrous, the depths into which the paper will sink to mount yet another exercise in Ed-evisceration. The only possible conclusion to be drawn is that the Guardian actively wants a Conservative/UKIP run country in 2015. Is there no-one who will rid us of this turbulent jumped-up gobshite of an editor?

Apparently Rowena Mason has weighed in with a second article now. Such a shame, Mason used to be a decent journo, but the Guardian has reduced her to their level of hackery. Ah well, at least we know what the strategy is for tomorrow.

yahyah wrote:

refitman wrote:

yahyah wrote:Good evening.

Anyone know what time the result is due in or if there's any radio coverage overnight ?

Claire Phipps, at the Graun, said they're expecting the result at about 3am.

Thanks Dan.

yahyah wrote:I was gardening and doing chores all afternoon so am still catching up...what was so terrible about what Thornberry tweeted ?

It's bizarre - all the crap about Labour and the Guardian article .....most perplexing.

yahyah wrote:I was gardening and doing chores all afternoon so am still catching up...what was so terrible about what Thornberry tweeted ?

It's bizarre - all the crap about Labour and the Guardian article .....most perplexing.

Emily Thornberry MP @EmilyThornberry
· 29m 29 minutes ago
I apologise for any offence caused by the 3 flag picture. People should fly the England flag with pride!

mbc1955 wrote:

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:For the Red Dwarf fans amongst you ....

Rachel Garrick ‏@RC_Garrick · 3h3 hours ago  Rochester, South East
#RochesterStrood @naushabahkhan is out there smoking Kippers. She'll be back for breakfast. #TogetherWeKhan (had to be said)

Couple of comments on Twitter say that the Guardian are have gone into faux outrage meltdown over a photo posted by Emily Thornberry; kicking off with the "R & S is bad news for Labour" narrative early?

EDIT - Ah, its a Staines/Cole Lynton-approved special which, obviously, any journal of repute would simply ignore .........

Yes, this is the piece of shit in question: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... kip-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's getting increasingly ludicrous, the depths into which the paper will sink to mount yet another exercise in Ed-evisceration. The only possible conclusion to be drawn is that the Guardian actively wants a Conservative/UKIP run country in 2015. Is there no-one who will rid us of this turbulent jumped-up gobshite of an editor?

yahyah wrote:Good evening.

Anyone know what time the result is due in or if there's any radio coverage overnight ?

yahyah wrote:I was gardening and doing chores all afternoon so am still catching up...what was so terrible about what Thornberry tweeted ?

It's bizarre - all the crap about Labour and the Guardian article .....most perplexing.

It's less patronising & it's journalists are more evenly balanced.
If I wanted to read how everything is "bad for Ed Miliband", I'd read the burblings of Dan Hodges or Isabel Hardman.
The journalism in the Guardian has seriously worsened in the last 4 years & for a left-leaning publication, I expect it to use it's resources to report on how badly the government is running the country instead of finding every reason under the sun to be a reason for your readers not to vote Labour.
The volume of trolling that is not dealt with by the moderators has greatly reduced the time I spend on the site & the comments I make on the site.
I know of several ex-readers who share my opinion but the Editor doesn't seem to care how many of us leave his site now that Ukip & the Conservative party have invaded & it saddens me to predict that your paper will advocate voting for a minor party again in the hope of keeping Labour out of power in favour of the Cons.