Wednesday 13th April 2016

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 1:17 pm

ephemerid wrote:I am beginning to think that someone posting on the politics thread has been reporting me and getting my posts modded.

Every day for weeks now, my posts have been removed. Only on that that thread, not on any others. I've emailed the G but no response.

Tin-foil-hattery aside - it used to be unusual for me to get stuff removed; I post in various threads, and it's only on AS's that this happens and at the moment it's virtually very time I post a comment. Very odd.

I hope you do get a response, ephe, apart from anything else it's bloody annoying when you don't know why a post is moderated. I have previously suggested to the G that an email with the reason for moderation be sent to commentators when their posts are removed but it is something that would have to be implemented as part of the system, perhaps by choosing appropriate option(s) that fires a standardised email.

I'm sure someone reporting a post does carry weight though. For example I have previously had posts that have stood for many hours before disappearing. They've usually attracted more recommendations than normal, which I find vaguely amusing. I'll just add that I no longer worry about deleted ones. Perhaps I have nothing of import to say these days... if I ever did. I'm not saying that of you btw, ephe, indeed there may be some that want your comments removed.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 1:37 pm

yahyah wrote:Awww, bless. Attractive young dominatrix falls head over heels for plain middle aged Tory.

Well, I was going to say it's not what you know, but who you know, but in her case it's evidently both.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 1:48 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:Awww, bless. Attractive young dominatrix falls head over heels for plain middle aged Tory.
Well, I was going to say it's not what you know, but who you know, but in her case it's evidently both.

To paraphrase Caroline Aherne as Mrs Merton: "So what first attracted you to multi-millionaire John Whittingdale?"

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 2:13 pm

Kevin Schofield
✔
‎@PolhomeEditor

STORY ALERT: Jeremy Corbyn criticises the £9.3 million pro-EU leaflet. His spokesman says the Government should be "more even handed".
1:03 PM - 13 Apr 2016 · City of London, London, United Kingdom (Politics Live, Guardian)

I agree with that. What we needed from the outset was an unbiased "pros" and "cons". There's nothing to prevent a "pros" outweigh the "cons" bit at the end or at the beginning. It would have drawn some of the venom (if that's the word I'm looking for) out of the argument.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 2:15 pm

Sorry I don't know who posted the link to Huff Posts article on Tax Credit cuts, quoted from which...

The DWP points out the OBR figure is not a fixed budget, and that Universal Credit includes more support than under the old system, including increased childcare.

Earlier I mentioned Cameron's version of DWP's provision of benefits and sadly I shall indirectly see just how such provision pans out. My eldest has been made redundant (too soon for any pay-out) as his employer has lost yet another major client during this economic miracle. Whether or not UC has been rolled out here, I've advised he immediately goes to Job Centre and ask for information on everything he's entitled to. Given that he is now a single parent it may be interesting to see what they offer without requests for specific benefits.

Given that when I went some years back I was sent away with no info whatsoever and told to live off my 'savings' it doesn't sound like a department ensuring everybody gets their due... and I'm just one individual. Indeed some time later when my money had run out I was told to claim ICA even though I explained I couldn't, my daughter was about to move out. Luckily I was called back in by someone else who noticed my leaving. I'm not sure what my body language said. I was not in a good place at the time and even then I lived in constant fear of sanction.

I could add that my son has recently been turned down tax credits and housing benefit since his split.

Postscript: he's not going today, his daughter is at playschool. He's going with her tomorrow.
Oh yeah, the loss of client is another reasonably large employer in administration.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:02 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/world ... share&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hitting the foreign press too.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:10 pm

ephemerid wrote:I am beginning to think that someone posting on the politics thread has been reporting me and getting my posts modded.

Every day for weeks now, my posts have been removed. Only on that that thread, not on any others. I've emailed the G but no response.

Tin-foil-hattery aside - it used to be unusual for me to get stuff removed; I post in various threads, and it's only on AS's that this happens and at the moment it's virtually very time I post a comment. Very odd.

The Sparrow blog has been a bit sensitive lately. Have you tried re-wording and re-posting? I had a post modded, so I re-posted the basic comment, but re-phrased it and it stayed. I worked out from this that my reference to Cameron being evasive in his answers had probably been read as evasive of - potentially "taxes". Ie skim-reading mods are targeting keywords, because they haven't time to properly read comments and assess context. There have been lots of modded posts recently, so you're not the only one, whatever the reason.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:13 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
BBC Politics ‏@BBCPolitics 27m27 minutes ago
All homes and businesses would gain access to superfast broadband by 2017 if Plaid Cymru got into power at the...
Don't make me laugh. They must be in cloud cuckoo land with that timescale - let alone the universal promise.

Superfast as received by one of our neighbours - who is not that far from the cabinet - is *9mbps*. They love paying the extra subscription for such a massive upgrade - not. Another of our neighbour has been completely stuffed by opting for superfast which BT should never have been allowed to sell them or claim they could have as they are too far away from the cabinet. They now get less speed than with their old connection - below 2mbps now - and have lost the ability to access things they used to be able to such as TV via the internet. And they've been told they can't go back to the old connection - it's irreversible apparently.

Morning peeps.

File under "any old shite we can negotiate away in coalition talks".

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:17 pm

@yahyah

I just spotted your query posed to Andrew in the other place, yahyah, and have a confession to make. Earlier I searched for escort agencies around Westminster hoping to find a similar web address to match.com. An interesting sidetrack to be sure, which rather made me forget why I was there. Anyway, forgetting the specifics, I was going to pick another website beginning with m and suggest it were next in his address book.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:23 pm

Christopher Hope ‏@christopherhope 1m1 minute ago
NEW #EUref could be delayed until October if high court challenge launched over Electoral Commission decision. More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04 ... exit-fund/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Oh what fun.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:25 pm

yahyah wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/world ... share&_r=0

Hitting the foreign press too.

The revelations added to the political woes of Prime Minister David Cameron, who has faced stiff criticism in Parliament and the British media after he and his father were named in the leak of documents called the Panama Papers. The documents revealed how figures across the globe used a Panamanian law firm to set up shell companies to hide vast wealth or avoid taxes.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:26 pm

utopiandreams wrote:@yahyah

I just spotted your query posed to Andrew in the other place, yahyah, and have a confession to make. Earlier I searched for escort agencies around Westminster hoping to find a similar web address to match.com. An interesting sidetrack to be sure, which rather made me forget why I was there. Anyway, forgetting the specifics, I was going to pick another website beginning with m and suggest it were next in his address book.

We are being asked to take so much on Whittingdale's word aren't we ?

Maybe I'm too cynical.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:27 pm

yahyah wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:@yahyah

I just spotted your query posed to Andrew in the other place, yahyah, and have a confession to make. Earlier I searched for escort agencies around Westminster hoping to find a similar web address to match.com. An interesting sidetrack to be sure, which rather made me forget why I was there. Anyway, forgetting the specifics, I was going to pick another website beginning with m and suggest it were next in his address book.
We are being asked to take so much on Whittingdale's word aren't we ?

Maybe I'm too cynical.

Surprised it wasn't left to a spad to say it was "a private matter"

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:29 pm

Scott Nelson ‏@TheMockneyRebel 1h1 hour ago

UKIP says party activist who 'blacked up' wearing a clowns' wig was using an acne treatment

http://i100.io/W7ECVIX

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:31 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
yahyah wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:@yahyah

I just spotted your query posed to Andrew in the other place, yahyah, and have a confession to make. Earlier I searched for escort agencies around Westminster hoping to find a similar web address to match.com. An interesting sidetrack to be sure, which rather made me forget why I was there. Anyway, forgetting the specifics, I was going to pick another website beginning with m and suggest it were next in his address book.
We are being asked to take so much on Whittingdale's word aren't we ?

Maybe I'm too cynical.
Surprised it wasn't left to a spad to say it was "a private matter"

Maybe the spad was there too

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:31 pm

yahyah wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:@yahyah

I just spotted your query posed to Andrew in the other place, yahyah, and have a confession to make. Earlier I searched for escort agencies around Westminster hoping to find a similar web address to match.com. An interesting sidetrack to be sure, which rather made me forget why I was there. Anyway, forgetting the specifics, I was going to pick another website beginning with m and suggest it were next in his address book.
We are being asked to take so much on Whittingdale's word aren't we ?

Maybe I'm too cynical.

Given the record of this mob in cabinet I think it's highly sensible to doubt they are telling the whole truth and nothing but ....

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:33 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Scott Nelson ‏@TheMockneyRebel 1h1 hour ago

UKIP says party activist who 'blacked up' wearing a clowns' wig was using an acne treatment

http://i100.io/W7ECVIX

They've got to be taking the piss surely .... ?

What a week we're having - Whittingdale whoppers - Javid and his worries about the rising cost of shoes preventing him from saving UK steel - and now this Ukip attempt to take us all for fools.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:33 pm

I could have made up any old web address for my joke and probably should have, but I like to add weight to my words and to provide a link. That's my excuse anyway... 'And why am I even explaining this? I haven't a wife looking over my shoulder.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:33 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Scott Nelson ‏@TheMockneyRebel 1h1 hour ago

UKIP says party activist who 'blacked up' wearing a clowns' wig was using an acne treatment

http://i100.io/W7ECVIX

Nice try Kippers, but not when the pics were:

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:44 pm

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/04 ... nged-at-th" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Crabb's welfare speech shows little has really changed at the DWP

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:45 pm

A Tory MP has criticised the Government’s plan to turn all schools in to academies, labelling the plan “rushed, ill-thought out and flawed”.

Stewart Jackson, MP for Peterborough, said he was willing to defy the party line as the reform was a “million miles from what a Conservative Party in office should be doing”.

His comments come as Labour today forces a vote in the Commons on the plan announced by Chancellor George Osborne in his Budget last month.

Jackson’s withering criticism of the “compulsory academisation” of primary and secondary schools underlines growing unease among some Tory backbenchers at the flagship plan being taken forward by Education Secretary, Nicky Morgan.

Writing in a column for his local newspaper the Peterborough Telegraph, seen by HuffPost UK, the MP argues the move is a “recipe for upheaval as well as muddle and costly confusion” and that there is “no evidence (as yet)” that the move will improve schools.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/s ... ah4yh0vn29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ScarletGas · Post by **ScarletGas** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:45 pm

On the Whittingdale saga I think its very interesting to note that our oh so high minded journalists are flooding the media output telling us that "it was not in the public interest" for us to know about his shenanigans. Once again,in the main its journalists interviewing journalists and what then can we expect as its clear the media and their government/donor friends want to shut down debate on this.

Tom Newton Dunn, true to form, on Sky yesterday said that this information came from "scurrilous" (pretty funny based on who he works for)blogs and there was no story and a Guardian political person agreed with him. Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to have the apologist for all things Murdockian Neil Wallis on the Today programme this morning? As soon as he pops his head above the parapet you can guess something shady is going on.

I think its interesting that some are majoring on the fact as he was not Culture Secretary at the time he had no influence conveniently omitting to mention he was chairman of the Culture ,media and sport committee and an influential backbencher no some menial backbencher.That in itself, I would have thought would have made this story in the public interest.

Unusually Emily Maitless asked the question of Steve Hewlett (A man I have a lot of time for normally but in this case joining the nothing to see here brigade) I thought a lot of people were puzzling over. If it is not in the public interest to publish the story of a senior politician involved in these sort of antics placing himself in a potentially compromising position with regard to his responsibilities (as Chairman of CMS Committee) where is the alleged public interest in knowing about a popular celebrity and his/hers sexual proclivities which the Mail/Sun have been making such a song and dance about this week. Hewlett claimed that it was perfectly clear that in the case of the celebrity it was a case of hypocrisy as the person had a reputation of being a family man with a personal life claimed to be beyond reproach.

I know Whittingdale is a single man but his escort was hardly the girl next door (I refuse to believe he did not know or could not find out her "professional activities") and therefore should we not hold a senior government official, who has significant influence over our lives, to the same or even higher standards of a celebrity who we have the ability to ignore if we so wish?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:47 pm

Labour Treasury
‏@labourtreasury
Tory MEPs in Brussels have voted 6 times on instructions from the Treasury to block EU-wide measures against tax avoidance @johnmcdonnellMP

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 3:59 pm

HuffPostUK Politics ‏@HuffPostUKPol 2m2 minutes ago
Man gets paid for doing his job http://huff.to/1SfqFH8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Huff Post gives the Telegraph's *expose* of Corbyn's salary and pension savings over 30 years the treatment it deserves.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:10 pm

"In rules that came into force on 6 April, fracking is defined by the amount of high-pressure fluid used to
fracture shale rocks and release gas or oil. However, the only well fracked in the UK so far, which caused
small earthquakes near Blackpool in 2011, would not qualify as fracking under the definition.

Furthermore, according to Prof Stuart Haszeldine at the University of Edinburgh, analysis of more than
17,000 gas wells fracked in the US from 2000-10 shows 43% would not be defined as fracking under
UK rules. More than 4,500 US wells were fracked to release oil in that time but 89% would not be
covered by the UK definition.

The safety regulations in the new rules, such as independent inspection of the integrity of the
well and sealing it after use, only apply if the drilling activity is defined as fracking.

“If a UK well is not officially ‘fracked’, then there is very large loophole, where a developer may not
be enforced to take all these additional safety precautions,” said Haszeldine, who has just returned
from a visit to the heartland of US fracking in Pennsylvania. “Once a loophole exists, then companies
will exploit that loophole."

(my emphasis)

UK government's fracking definition 'could allow drilling without safeguards'

Leading geologist warns loophole in government’s legal definition of fracking
could enable companies to bypass safety precautions

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... safeguards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:20 pm

Peter Jukes is pointing out that Whittingdale has apparently been untruthful.

He was asked a few weeks ago if the press had anything on him & he said no.
But he was approached by the Mail in 2014 for comment about the dominatrix story - so he knew that at least one paper had something on him.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:36 pm

Robert, UD, and Willow -

Thanks for your thoughts. I have tried re-wording and re-posting a few times.

When I consider the bile and bitchiness of some comments, mine were very mild in comparison - and as this only seems to happen on the AS threads, I think some OP is reporting me.
I realise that there is often no rhyme or reason for some of the moderation over there, but generally I don't get modded often. That it's happening with tedious regularity in just one place leads me to assume someone is responsible for it.

It doesn't matter, really. It's just annoying.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:37 pm

: Zac Attack.jpg (58.16 KiB) Viewed 4267 times

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 3m3 minutes ago
Zac needs to look up "losing with honour".

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:38 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Scott Nelson ‏@TheMockneyRebel 1h1 hour ago

UKIP says party activist who 'blacked up' wearing a clowns' wig was using an acne treatment

http://i100.io/W7ECVIX
They've got to be taking the piss surely .... ?

What a week we're having - Whittingdale whoppers - Javid and his worries about the rising cost of shoes preventing him from saving UK steel - and now this Ukip attempt to take us all for fools.

I couldn't transfer the photo, but he's wearing a multi coloured frizzy wig, a red nose, and his face is blacked up. No shirt just a bow tie.
Oh and he's holding a union jack mug.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:41 pm

Just quoting from the Private Eye article about Whittingdale gets modded.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:44 pm

ephemerid wrote:Robert, UD, and Willow -

Thanks for your thoughts. I have tried re-wording and re-posting a few times.

When I consider the bile and bitchiness of some comments, mine were very mild in comparison - and as this only seems to happen on the AS threads, I think some OP is reporting me.
I realise that there is often no rhyme or reason for some of the moderation over there, but generally I don't get modded often. That it's happening with tedious regularity in just one place leads me to assume someone is responsible for it.

It doesn't matter, really. It's just annoying.

The mods aren't doing their job properly then. They should check whether it's a genuine complaint or just spite.
It wouldn't hurt to keep a copy of what you're posting.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:44 pm

Just heard James Cusick on the Media prog being interviewed by Steve Hewlett re the Whittingdale story he and others researched at the Independent only for it to be spiked.

I am still unconvinced by the 'no public interest', 'nothing to see here' wall being presented on this. Cusick said very clearly that Whittingdale's claims did not tally with his information in various instances.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:47 pm

David Aaronovitch ‏@DAaronovitch 2m2 minutes ago
I can only presume that @steve_hewlett and the Media Show had someone booked to counter Cusick just now, but that they pulled out.

They don't like a challenge to their status quo - do they.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:48 pm

Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 3m3 minutes ago
Ex DfE minister Tim Loughton says better to extend academies 'organically' rather than impose them on 'arbitrary' timetable

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:50 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Aaronovitch ‏@DAaronovitch 2m2 minutes ago
I can only presume that @steve_hewlett and the Media Show had someone booked to counter Cusick just now, but that they pulled out.
They don't like a challenge to their status quo - do they.

That wouldn't be a conspiracy theory would it Mr Aaronovitch ?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 4:58 pm

Juliet Samuel Retweeted
steve hawkes ‏@steve_hawkes 8m8 minutes ago
Tory MP Andrew Bridgen slams BBC over John Whittingdale - says they have a "clear agenda" and want a more "malleable" Culture Secretary

Oh dear, unfortunate choice of words there. Perhaps the Beeb will hire a dominatrix to ensure he's more "malleable" - that seems to be the way.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:00 pm

Lilian Greenwood ‏@LilianGreenwood 1m1 minute ago
Tory Education Secretary in big trouble - unable to answer criticism from MPs - on all sides - of plan to force all schools to academise

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:02 pm

Owen Smith Retweeted
Labour Press Team ‏@labourpress 36m36 minutes ago
Crabb must immediately reject calls from David Cameron’s former adviser to scrap the state pension @OwenSmith_MP https://tmblr.co/ZP11Jr24y53Ro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Owen Smith Retweeted
Labour DWP Team ‏@LabourDWP 20m20 minutes ago
As ex-adviser to David Cameron calls for scrapping of state pension, @OwenSmith_MP says the Tory mask is slipping. http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1427418 ... calls-from" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:04 pm

Do hope the Telegraph aren't going to lecture about the need for personal privacy for Whittingdale.
Their recent investigation into Justin Welby's real father was very intrusive & tasteless.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:08 pm

Sounds like it's going really well for Nicky Morgan.

Stephen Timms ‏@stephenctimms 2m2 minutes ago
Barely any support on either side of the House of Commons in today's debate for the Government plan to force all schools to become academies

Justin Madders MP ‏@justinmadders 2m2 minutes ago
Education Sec says schools should be forced to be Academies because many have already,ignores recent converts have been bullied into it!

Matthew Pennycook MP Retweeted
Richard Vaughan ‏@RichardVaughan1 17m17 minutes ago
Nicky Morgan flat refusing to answer the question on whether white paper removes requirement of academies to use parent governors

Lucy Powell MP ‏@LucyMPowell 3m3 minutes ago
Judging by the start of the #ForcedAcademies debate, @NickyMorgan01 & government haven't even persuaded a single MP on either side of merits

Toby Perkins ‏@tobyperkinsmp 5m5 minutes ago
Nikki Morgan really struggling to justify why she won't allow parents and schools to decide whether academy status is good for them or not.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:11 pm

Matthew Pennycook MP ‏@mtpennycook 2m2 minutes ago
Clear from the level of concern expressed on the Government benches that Nicky Morgan's White Paper is going nowhere in its present form.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:15 pm

Just reading some tweets about Cusicks's interview.
It becomes more clear why the Mail have been treating it a story about BBC & Hacked Off hypocrisy.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:22 pm

The Media Show on i-player now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0766g55" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:27 pm

Robert Peston ‏@Peston 9m9 minutes ago
So @tom_watson, Lab's deputy leader, cautioned Sunday People against publishing story about Whittindale's affair " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:39 pm

ephemerid wrote:Robert, UD, and Willow -

Thanks for your thoughts. I have tried re-wording and re-posting a few times.

When I consider the bile and bitchiness of some comments, mine were very mild in comparison - and as this only seems to happen on the AS threads, I think some OP is reporting me.
I realise that there is often no rhyme or reason for some of the moderation over there, but generally I don't get modded often. That it's happening with tedious regularity in just one place leads me to assume someone is responsible for it.

It doesn't matter, really. It's just annoying.

If you haven't inadvertently used any "flash" words, abusive language or mentioned modding, criticised the G or whatever, then the only thing left is "off topic". Seemingly ok comments with links and quotes seem more vulnerable to mysterious modding. As you say, it could be that you are being reported, but even then the person reporting would have to give a relevant reason, so I'd be interested to know how the G responds.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:43 pm

April 2013.
John Whittingdale said two Leveson lawyers who were having an affair 'is bound to cause a public conflict of interest''.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ffair.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:44 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Owen Smith Retweeted
Labour Press Team ‏@labourpress 36m36 minutes ago
Crabb must immediately reject calls from David Cameron’s former adviser to scrap the state pension @OwenSmith_MP https://tmblr.co/ZP11Jr24y53Ro" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Owen Smith Retweeted
Labour DWP Team ‏@LabourDWP 20m20 minutes ago
As ex-adviser to David Cameron calls for scrapping of state pension, @OwenSmith_MP says the Tory mask is slipping. http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1427418 ... calls-from" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Crabb and Cameron will happily do so, seeing they had no intention of pissing off their core vote. Waste of time by Smith.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:53 pm

Not just pissing off their core vote, pissing off anyone who will need a state pension in the future.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:55 pm

Take your point,maybe better off sticking with/ pointing out targeted cuts/removals that effect pensioners that the Wail,Excess are in arms about,that are already legislated for.Though maybe a tad difficult,Labour were in favour of them a few months ago.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 13 Apr, 2016 5:56 pm

Talking of pensions, it isn't often Tony Blair gets any praise these days but it was his government that allowed NHS admin workers to be enrolled into the pension scheme.
I had to apply for mine recently having reached 60 as it doesn't mature anymore.

So well done Tony. One person grateful at least.