Re: Thursday 7th May
Posted: Thu 07 May, 2015 11:44 pm
Snap.refitman wrote:Peter Snow, Jeremy Vine is not.
Snap.refitman wrote:Peter Snow, Jeremy Vine is not.
That didn't make any sense to me either.RogerOThornhill wrote:I really didn't understand how it can be a Labour to UKIP swing when Labour increased their majority.LadyCentauria wrote:The idea of swings seems more and more silly when there is no longer a virtually two-horse race in today's multi-party politics.rearofthestore wrote:Smaller swing in Washington 2.7% to LAB
Channel 4 is ok - tried BBC and ITV and couldn't stick them.mbc1955 wrote:I'm following things via a combination of here and the Guardian (old habits die hard). I can't face any television. Not now.
Ha! YesPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Roundabouts?LadyCentauria wrote:The idea of swings seems more and more silly when there is no longer a virtually two-horse race in today's multi-party politics.rearofthestore wrote:Smaller swing in Washington 2.7% to LAB
I'm not watching BBC on principle. If there is a disaster, they'll have to take part responsibility for it, so I'm boycotting the buggers.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hopefully along the lines of stuff your exit poll up it!PorFavor wrote:David Dimbleby is such an arse.
Ed Balls has just given a very good interview, though.
Today, I'll mostly be swearing . . .
(I don't usually swear in writing - it doesn't come naturally to me. But it does tonight.)
well they have so many to choose fromrefitman wrote:Oh joy, Fallon's on now. Tories really rolling out the charmers tonight.
It may be right, there is no evidence one way or the other.howsillyofme1 wrote:What is the current view on this Exit Poll
Is it starting to be undermined a bit or it is too early to say....more info from seats will be coming in even if not confirmed results?
Getting all info from here and Grauniad at the moment
If completely wrong I will watch on catch-up to watch it unravel....although this is still wishful thinking
Libs discounting the exit poll as well:mbc1955 wrote:Apart from that early comment by Oiky Gove, there seems to have been very little comment on the exit poll from the bastard Tories. You don't think that it could be that they don't believe it either?
The LDs seem to think that Clegg is safe: I'd trade that for a good result now.
From the Graun.Nick Clegg’s close ally and the former Lib Dem leader of Sheffield city council, Paul Scriven, is at the Sheffield count. He says the exit poll “looks completely rogue”.
“You take a look at the YouGov poll and I think that gives a completely different picture,” he said, adding that it went against “everything we’re hearing from our activists around the country”.
He was asked whether such a result would make Clegg’s position as leader untenable. “I don’t think it is going to be that result,” he said. “So we’re hypothesising.
“I think we need to all take a breath and wait until the evening gets a bit more firm.”
He denied that tactical voting for Clegg by natural Conservative party supporters would play a large role in the outcome of the election in Sheffield Hallam, something Monday’s Guardian/ICM poll in the constituency pointed to. He said people were “very clear and focused about what they needed to do – to go out and vote for a strong MP”.
When women are bullied it's very hard to imagine the extent to which it goes...A ballot is private and although nothing is 100% perfect it's damn near. Nothing to stop you or I putting the cross where we damn well please, but these women are so cowed they wouldn't dream of doing anything their partner disagreed with.LadyCentauria wrote:Ha! YesPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Roundabouts?LadyCentauria wrote: The idea of swings seems more and more silly when there is no longer a virtually two-horse race in today's multi-party politics.
@RR2: Shocked to read your post. I wonder if all 5 at that address followed 'his' orders? Awful to be in such fear of someone that you can't cast your private ballot according to your own views. And a salutary reminder from the older gentleman of how people were treated in the not-too-distant past
I flicked over to Sky at one point & Theresa May was yapping. I hastily switched back.PorFavor wrote:Sodding Michael Fallon now!
Can't stand Scrivens. Had personal experience of the depths that man was willing to go to crush anyone he considered opposition to his hold on power when he ran Sheffield Council.refitman wrote:Libs discounting the exit poll as well:mbc1955 wrote:Apart from that early comment by Oiky Gove, there seems to have been very little comment on the exit poll from the bastard Tories. You don't think that it could be that they don't believe it either?
The LDs seem to think that Clegg is safe: I'd trade that for a good result now.
From the Graun.Nick Clegg’s close ally and the former Lib Dem leader of Sheffield city council, Paul Scriven, is at the Sheffield count. He says the exit poll “looks completely rogue”.
“You take a look at the YouGov poll and I think that gives a completely different picture,” he said, adding that it went against “everything we’re hearing from our activists around the country”.
He was asked whether such a result would make Clegg’s position as leader untenable. “I don’t think it is going to be that result,” he said. “So we’re hypothesising.
“I think we need to all take a breath and wait until the evening gets a bit more firm.”
He denied that tactical voting for Clegg by natural Conservative party supporters would play a large role in the outcome of the election in Sheffield Hallam, something Monday’s Guardian/ICM poll in the constituency pointed to. He said people were “very clear and focused about what they needed to do – to go out and vote for a strong MP”.
Just home from work, and a quick update on Sprog1. Yup, she's asleep on the sofa, as she said she would, ready for the early-hours results.Hobiejoe wrote:Crikey, impressive pictures of huge queues to vote over on the AS blog. One of my locals even reported a queue of a dozen or so waiting for the doors to open at 7am in our little town. Unheard of previously.
I can't decide whether to stay up after work, or grab a few hours and get up with the missus (and sprog1, who is getting caught up in the excitement. She's eleven, and already won a Devon Rotary public speaking prize...I have high hopes.../proud dad) around 3.30/4am.
I reckon I'll see what the exit polls say.
Oh do fuck off ! How many of you tried to counter the lie ? Labour supporters country-wide were despairing of the fact you guys with the ear of the media, refused to counter the outrageous fucking lie so don't start griping now you fucking idiot !If we have lost this election, we have lost it from 2010, when in the six months after 201o we failed to nail the lie that Labour, the Labour government, had been responsible for the global meltdown, and everything that happened in the US, France, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, was the Labour government’s fault. It was such a nonsense. But the coalition got away with peddling that. I think we’ve got to think seriously about about avoiding a situation where we rush into something that might damage us in the long term.
Yes. I just assumed it was a mis-print.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:BTW didn't Lousie Mensch say something sensible about the exit poll?
Bloody hell. Where's the thanks button when you really need it. Kisses letsskip.letsskiptotheleft wrote:Talk of Labour gaining Bradford West!
Wow.
She did. I posted it earlier but it was akin to the fact that all polls showed a move toward Labour apart from this exit poll so it looked unlikely to be the most accurate one of 12.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:BTW didn't Lousie Mensch say something sensible about the exit poll?
Frankly I assumed she's been hacked.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Never thought I'd say it but thanks Louise for these Tweets
Applause!pk1 wrote:Blunkett
Oh do fuck off ! How many of you tried to counter the lie ? Labour supporters country-wide were despairing of the fact you guys with the ear of the media, refused to counter the outrageous fucking lie so don't start griping now you fucking idiot !If we have lost this election, we have lost it from 2010, when in the six months after 201o we failed to nail the lie that Labour, the Labour government, had been responsible for the global meltdown, and everything that happened in the US, France, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, was the Labour government’s fault. It was such a nonsense. But the coalition got away with peddling that. I think we’ve got to think seriously about about avoiding a situation where we rush into something that might damage us in the long term.
I might have apologised for my atrocious language but I'm not in the least bit sorry so, sorry but no apology from me.
Peter Jukes @peterjukes 2m2 minutes ago
Local correspondents now predicting Edinburgh keeps THREE Labour seats. This is madness
Nah, it's only 'Kippers who have their facetwitbookpalm accounts "hacked"Spacedone wrote:Frankly I assumed she's been hacked.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Never thought I'd say it but thanks Louise for these Tweets
From electoral calculus - oversight (Galloway from 2012) or what?Bradford West: Overview
Prediction: LAB hold
MP at 2010: Marsha Singh (LAB)
County/Area: West Yorkshire (Yorkshire)
Electorate: 62,519
Turnout: 64.9%