Thursday 23rd June 2016

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:39 am

Farage welcomes 'victory for decent people' (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)

Oh, God. Here we go . . . .

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:42 am

OK fine...

Interesting times.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:42 am

Stoke-on-Trent has not reported its results yet. They are expected to arrive 1 hour ago.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:42 am

We're indecent people PF.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:43 am

Toby Perkins ‏@tobyperkinsmp 21s21 seconds ago
Thanks to everyone who supported @UKLabourIN campaign in Chesterfield, got stuffed sadly- 40% Remain/60% Leave,got to try & make it work now
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yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:44 am

BBC & ITV call it for leave.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:46 am

It's still - just - too close to call, but the picture that is emerging is of a heavily polarised country, with remain areas coming in more strongly for remain than expected, and leave areas more strongly for leave. Geographically, Scotland and London have voted overwhelmingly for remain, but England is leaning heavily to leave.

But remain now has a lot of ground to make up in the areas still to declare. Northern Ireland will be pivotal, as will the few remaining London boroughs.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:48 am

Voters report being turned away from EU referendum polls
Some individuals say they have been told their names were not on roll despite having thought they had registered

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ndum-polls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

damn it

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:49 am

Pound down to $1.20

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:50 am

Sky outside Boris Johnson's house.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:50 am

Oh shit justwoke up to new reality. Not surprised just very dismayed with horriible sinking feeling., a lifetime of progressive thought smashed by ignorance and greed. And britain gone. Well done cameron.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:50 am

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... now-so-far" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I could make sense of most of the article linked above

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:51 am

seeingclearly wrote:Oh shit justwoke up to new reality. Not surprised just very dismayed with horriible sinking feeling., a lifetime of progressive thought smashed by ignorance and greed. And britain gone. Well done cameron.

Thank goodness you're here!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:51 am

We've been waiting ages for you
I hope you're well

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:52 am

I'm proud to be in an area that voted Remain.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:53 am

Lovely to see you Seeingclearly. Hope things have improved healthwise.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:54 am

Many media organisations have now called it for leave. The picture that is emerging is of a heavily polarised country, with remain areas coming in more strongly for remain than expected, and leave areas more strongly for leave. Geographically, Scotland and London have voted overwhelmingly for remain, but England leans heavily to leave.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:55 am

What will the Queen say, do you think?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:56 am

Arise Sir Nigel.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:56 am

OK what's the best and worst case scenario that happens next from a political viewpoint?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:57 am

It's so close

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:58 am

StephenDolan wrote:OK what's the best and worst case scenario that happens next from a political viewpoint?

That information has been kept from us all

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:01 am

The British people have voted to leave the European Union in a historic referendum in which they rejected the advice of the main Westminster party leaders and instead took the plunge into the political unknown.

The decision in favour of Brexit, following a bitterly close electoral race, represents the biggest shock to the political establishment in Britain and across Europe for decades, and will threaten the leaderships of both the prime minister, David Cameron, and the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

doubleplus ungood

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:01 am

Kay Burley seems downbeat.

Either she's a Remainer, or gutted that her crush David Cameron is on the way out.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:02 am

Just noticed it's light.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:03 am

I don't watch media and I'm not listening to vocals either
I'm just reading
What's happening?
I wouldn't be able to make sense of people I don't know telling me I don't know what

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:04 am

Stoke-on-Trent has not reported its results yet. They are expected to arrive 2 hours ago.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:05 am

I seem to be mildly annoyed.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:08 am

At this point, Remain needs 59.0% of still uncounted votes to win
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:08 am

Gove,Johnson waiting for Cameron to speak.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:08 am

Sky'sGoneOut wrote:I seem to be mildly annoyed.

it's that bad, isn't it?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:09 am

Cja-it is over,Leave will win by 1.3 million or so.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:09 am

Perhaps we could draft Gordon Brown in to oversee the crisis. That might at least avert total disaster.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:12 am

[Stephen Crabb said]

There isn’t anybody else around the cabinet table or outside the cabinet, for that matter, or in any of the other political parties who can give this country the kind of leadership skills and abilities that David Cameron can (Politics Live, Guardian)

If only that were true. But I fear that there are plenty of others just as stupid champing at the bit.

Roll on the emergency punishment budget.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:13 am

Remain needs 61.0% of still uncounted votes to win

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:14 am

Senior Tories saying Osbo and Cam are finished. There'll be a dignified exit, not immediate.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:15 am

HindleA wrote:Cja-it is over,Leave will win by 1.3 million or so.

I see

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:15 am

It is.

And I'm scared.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:15 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Perhaps we could draft Gordon Brown in to oversee the crisis. That might at least avert total disaster.

That would mean having an adult in charge. The country seems to have opted for the kids.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:16 am

Tory rebel and Brexiter Andrew Bridgen, who had called for a new Tory leader and a general election before Christmas, has called on David Cameron to stay to “stabilise the situation”.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4, Bridgen said:

Will it be in the interest of the country for the prime minister to resign this morning? I don’t think so. Given all the volatility at the moment I think we can give the prime minister a little breathing space.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/liv ... d83eb4a0e2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:16 am

citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:Cja-it is over,Leave will win by 1.3 million or so.
I see

You ok ?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:17 am

citizenJA wrote:Tory rebel and Brexiter Andrew Bridgen, who had called for a new Tory leader and a general election before Christmas, has called on David Cameron to stay to “stabilise the situation”.

I know he's culpable. But if I were him I'd tell the Brext brigade 'you've brought this about, you sort it out'.

If they make him do it, they can wash their hands of problems.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:18 am

yahyah wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:Cja-it is over,Leave will win by 1.3 million or so.
I see

You ok ?

No
but don't worry

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:19 am

Now questions are being seriously raised about the continuance of the United Kingdom re both Scotland and now Northern Ireland.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:20 am

Worst case: Scotland calls another referendum; Ireland goes for reunification, England is hate-filled cesspit run by Boris Johnson
Best case: early GE with Labour getting in and deciding not to act on referendum (which they won't do because they are spineless and will keep harping on about white working class and immigration)

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:21 am

Shitpoobollockscrapficketyfeckityflippingnoraomgwhathavewedone.

I'm too sad to be angry.

I'm a bit scared now.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:22 am

The result will have massive ramifications not just for Northern Ireland but the entire island. The Brexit vote will raise questions about the Irish border. If border checks and controls come back this will enrage the nationalist population of Northern Ireland. It will also undoubtedly be a boon for Irish republican dissidents opposed to the peace process.

The republican hardliners will argue that the principles of freedom of movement on the island and the fact that Northern Ireland voted for remain are subject to an English electorate veto. They will contend that the connection with Britain and the power of England to threaten to reinforce the border through this vote undermines the Good Friday agreement.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/liv ... d83eb4a0de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is utterly terrifying

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:22 am

Calderdale voted leave at 55.6%

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:23 am

ephemerid wrote:Shitpoobollockscrapficketyfeckityflippingnoraomgwhathavewedone.

I'm too sad to be angry.

I'm a bit scared now.

Yes, yes, I'm scared

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 5:24 am

Is there an expert in the house?