Friday 14th October 2016

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:06 am

Morning

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... s-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gender pay gap is widest during workers' 50s, analysis shows
Women are paid less than men at all ages but gap is greatest when women are in their 50s, stretching to 25.9%, says TUC

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:11 am

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ism-claims" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lowell Goddard, former UK child abuse inquiry judge, denies racism claims
Goddard, who unexpectedly resigned as chair of the public inquiry into institutional child abuse, says she is consulting lawyers after Times report

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:17 am

Good Morning Mr Hindle. Good Morning everybody.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:18 am

We need one of these.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... rightening" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Michelle Obama on Thursday delivered a devastating rebuke to Donald Trump, calling past comments and alleged misconduct by the Republican nominee “cruel”, “frightening” and beyond the “basic standards of human decency”.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:29 am

http://labourlist.org/2016/10/nec-chair ... -division/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NEC chair Glenis Willmott: No more eight hour meetings – and let’s heal our wounds after a summer of division

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:30 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK and US both consider military options amid warnings Russia will 'flatten' Aleppo

We're too busy doing important things like fighting about the price of Marmite to worry about this kind of thing. And anyway aren't the 2 million people who live in Aleppo foreign? They'll be wanting to escape a war zone designed to "flatten" the city and come here next.

What was that Beryl?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:35 am

Question number 3:

(i) maintaining full membership of the Single Market, as at present;

(ii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Economic Area;

(iii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Free Trade Agreement;

(iv) negotiating a Customs union with the EU;

(v) negotiating a bespoke, bilateral free trade deal with the EU;

(vi) adopting a unilateral free trade policy with all trading partners; and

(vii) reverting to WTO rules for future trade arrangements, including the imposition of tariffs.

3. Of the options it is still considering, would any involve the European Commission continuing to police and enforce the UK’s compliance with Single Market regulations?

i) yes ii) yes iii) yes iv) yes v) yes (while suffering the disadvantage of being the smaller partner) vi) presumably vii) too big and hideous to think about at this time in the morning

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:42 am

Care crisis: Council’s failings mean disabled man has to be dragged upstairs to his flat

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/ca ... -his-flat/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:50 am

http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... hed-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Homelessness Reduction Bill supported by Committee

The Communities and Local Government Committee publishes report in support of legislation aimed at reducing homelessness by ensuring that vulnerable people receive consistently high levels of service from local housing authorities across the county.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:57 am

Morning.

The Sun has released a video clip of Paul Mason talking about Corbyn. He didn't know someone was recording it on a phone or tablet.
It doesn't seem that controversial. Who has claimed that Corbyn appeals to the working class ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ays-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 7:58 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ism-claims

Lowell Goddard, former UK child abuse inquiry judge, denies racism claims
Goddard, who unexpectedly resigned as chair of the public inquiry into institutional child abuse, says she is consulting lawyers after Times report

Concerns raised to those around May according to Today.

Getting sick of the witch hunt shouts.

Morning all btw.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:06 am

http://lobby.supportyourlocalpharmacy.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lobby your MP support your local pharmacy

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:10 am

They've been reporting that on Radio 4. Very worrying for rural areas, it may affect small pharmacies and their ability to deliver medication to patients in areas that have no bus services.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:26 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... h-minister" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
US banks planning exodus from Brexit Britain, says French minister
Finance minister Michel Sapin says banks had confirmed to him they would move some activities to the continent when the UK leaves the EU

As I mentioned yesterday. Whatever I think about banking (mercifully not much) this can't help.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:32 am

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... nniversary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Battle of Hastings to rage again as reenactors celebrate anniversary

Sorry, when I said we were too busy fighting about the price of Marmite, I forgot to mention that we were also FAR to ####ing busy having play fights to celebrate the French fighting with the Danes over which of them was going to nick "our" country.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:41 am

from June but am curious about views on this:

TEF ‘set to reshape hierarchy of UK higher education’
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/ne ... -education" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

will it? won't it? should it? what are the comparative revenues (research/teaching) looking like these days?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:42 am

podium alert. will return later.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:45 am

Donald Trump told 14-year-old girls: ‘In a couple of years I’ll be dating you’ - The Independent
https://apple.news/AJQxsRzpGT9uE_NykCJ9Img" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Such a comedian'

Not laughing. Not laughing at all.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:49 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Question number 3:

(i) maintaining full membership of the Single Market, as at present;

(ii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Economic Area;

(iii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Free Trade Agreement;

(iv) negotiating a Customs union with the EU;

(v) negotiating a bespoke, bilateral free trade deal with the EU;

(vi) adopting a unilateral free trade policy with all trading partners; and

(vii) reverting to WTO rules for future trade arrangements, including the imposition of tariffs.

3. Of the options it is still considering, would any involve the European Commission continuing to police and enforce the UK’s compliance with Single Market regulations?
i) yes ii) yes iii) yes iv) yes v) yes (while suffering the disadvantage of being the smaller partner) vi) presumably vii) too big and hideous to think about at this time in the morning

The problem with these questions is that they're reinforcing the premise that the only option for the 'take back control' crowd is (vii). Hard Brexit.

The problem for everyone else is that this is reinforcing the premise that Brexit truly is going to be a total clusterfuck for the country for no benefit whatsoever.

Rock. Hard place.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:50 am

Morning all.

A Labour assembly member's damning article about the Boris vanity project also known as the Garden Bridge.

http://littleatoms.com/news-society/bor ... m-cronyism

Nearly £40 million of taxpayer cash has been poured into the Thames with nothing to show for it but a glossy website, a series of damning reports and a furious local community. We are witnessing the slow, expensive death of the Garden Bridge. It would be better to put it out of its misery sooner rather than later.

Chris Cook's comment...

Chris Cook ‏@xtophercook 13m13 minutes ago

Chris Cook Retweeted Tom Copley

The Garden Bridge is, in a strange way, feels to its critics like this year's Kids Company.

Quite.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 8:56 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

A Labour assembly member's damning article about the Boris vanity project also known as the Garden Bridge.

http://littleatoms.com/news-society/bor ... m-cronyism

Nearly £40 million of taxpayer cash has been poured into the Thames with nothing to show for it but a glossy website, a series of damning reports and a furious local community. We are witnessing the slow, expensive death of the Garden Bridge. It would be better to put it out of its misery sooner rather than later.
Chris Cook's comment...

Chris Cook ‏@xtophercook 13m13 minutes ago

Chris Cook Retweeted Tom Copley

The Garden Bridge is, in a strange way, feels to its critics like this year's Kids Company.
Quite.

would have funded the locally very popular battersea to chelsea pedestrian and cycle bridge twice over https://www.facebook.com/oneworlddesign ... NE&fref=nf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:03 am

Luckilly our pharmacy and GP are only a few minutes away,if either weren't,no idea how we would have managed.It was a "tight squeeze" as it was given frequency of changes of medicines etc.I was there almost every day latterly.Does my nut in a bit where the spiel is "care at home/closer to home/community" when there are making it harder.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:05 am

Mark Steel

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/don ... 60051.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who could have guessed that Donald Trump could be sexist and uncouth in his fifties? We all make mistakes in our youth

This is the state the world’s in: we’re cautiously relieved Donald Trump looks as if he won’t become the President of America.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:06 am

It’s as if millions of people are gasping: “Excellent news! That bloke who sits on the bench in the park screaming at women, ‘come here you bitch so I can lick my Special Brew off your arse. Of course it don’t taste like it used to ‘cos extra-strong lager has to be halal now or the MUSLIMS will blow up that see-saw… now look what the Mexicans have done, they’ve made me wet myself, I’m going to make them dry my crotch with a tea towel and who’s going to pay for the tea towel – THEY are’, is now only backed by 40 per cent of the population to be the most powerful man on the planet.”

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:08 am

If a film revealed Philip Hammond saying, “I always grab Nicky Morgan’s breasts before a Cabinet meeting, the birds let you do that once you’re Chancellor of the Exchequer” to a laughing Ed Miliband, most people would probably say “Well I didn’t expect that!” and the pair of them would look a bit sheepish for a couple of weeks.

I would very much like to go to the pub with Mark Steel.

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:15 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK and US both consider military options amid warnings Russia will 'flatten' Aleppo
We're too busy doing important things like fighting about the price of Marmite to worry about this kind of thing. And anyway aren't the 2 million people who live in Aleppo foreign? They'll be wanting to escape a war zone designed to "flatten" the city and come here next.

What was that Beryl?

Pedancy alert....it was the Danes fighting the Norse men (Vikings) who'd already vanquished the French*...(as I understand it from a French friend who gets somewhat annoyed when being blamed for it)

(Happy to be corrected if I've got it wrong

)

So then...the actual Foreign Secretary...an important and serious role of Government....states that, rather than using high level diplomacy to communicate the displeasure of HMG around the actions in Aleppo, he wants to incite a 'protest'...what the actual f***? Has Corbyns' influence reached that far? (In the words of our erstwhile regular anti-Corbynite - 'he's turned Labour into a party of protest...which is useless...of course')...and yesterdays offering?

'It may be time to consider military action to stop the bloodshed'....

Sorry...what now? I thought the Clouncy Funt had 'scored a massive win against the useless pacifist, yet still hugely dangerous Corbyn' by committing 'our boys' to bombing Syria already?...what happened to that?

To be absolutely clear - the actions of all sides in Syria are horrendous (except the White Helmets, on whom (imho) should be showered massive praise and media attention https://thesyriacampaign.org/) - but as I've said here before - adding to the munitions being thrown around is not the way to stop munitions being thrown around

*Blimey...prepared this response to that comment and when I check for (and probably miss) typos, it's gawn...only to return later in different form...I'm not sure I'm quick enough for this fast moving place

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:17 am

well i was paraphrasing to be fair, the Normans being vikings (Danes?) with big houses in what's now france - or something along those lines

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:26 am

Indeed (and apologies for the repeat joke back to RoT's Hannan comment yesterday) here is my architectural drawing of the new Chelsea-Battersea pedestrian bridge.

: monet.jpg (14.95 KiB) Viewed 10735 times

(note - just to be clear: in reality I am not an architect and have nothing to do with either this picture or this bridge).

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:36 am

StephenDolan wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ism-claims

Lowell Goddard, former UK child abuse inquiry judge, denies racism claims
Goddard, who unexpectedly resigned as chair of the public inquiry into institutional child abuse, says she is consulting lawyers after Times report
Concerns raised to those around May according to Today.

Getting sick of the witch hunt shouts.

Morning all btw.

It does all seem a bit odd really - Judge from NZ, personally selected by the Clouncy Funt and his the Home Secretary, as someone with 'no ties to the establishment' to really put the inquiry on the right track....who just happened to have been married to Sir Walter John "Johnny" Scott, 5th Baronet (who is also, I kid you not, Board member, The European Squirrel Federation) - turns out to (allegedly) have very establishment-centric view of 'other people' (allegedly)...it's almost as though they don't really want the inquiry to succeed...who'da thunkit

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:40 am

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/35-m ... n-vehicles" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remind me. How much has been wasted on Johnson vanity projects? This sum in comparison is pitifully low.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:45 am

StephenDolan wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/35-m ... n-vehicles

Remind me. How much has been wasted on Johnson vanity projects? This sum in comparison is pitifully low.

Brexit?

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:45 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:well i was paraphrasing to be fair, the Normans being vikings (Danes?) with big houses in what's now france - or something along those lines

...and the English being Angles and Saxons from Denmark...so a turf war between lots of tribes, none of which were from round 'ere...or France.

(I'm really not trying to argue...it started as a joke (in my tiny mind)

peace and love

perhaps I'm still in shock at the vision of an accordion-accompanied podium-swivelling TinyClanger2

)

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:46 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/35-m ... n-vehicles

Remind me. How much has been wasted on Johnson vanity projects? This sum in comparison is pitifully low.
Brexit?

LOL, I meant the bridge.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:47 am

Lonewolfie wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:well i was paraphrasing to be fair, the Normans being vikings (Danes?) with big houses in what's now france - or something along those lines
...and the English being Angles and Saxons from Denmark...so a turf war between lots of tribes, none of which were from round 'ere...or France.

(I'm really not trying to argue...it started as a joke (in my tiny mind) peace and love perhaps I'm still in shock at the vision of an accordion-accompanied podium-swivelling TinyClanger2 )

No argument percieved. It's really the point - even the Saxons weren't Saxon!
My online persona is indeed taking on a life of its own. Am very happy for it - if not indeed somewhat envious.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 9:56 am

Good - this is a battle worth fighting.

Academics petition education secretary over 48-hour research publication rule

http://schoolsweek.co.uk/academics-peti ... ation-rule

Academics and journalists are mobilising to fight a government diktat which means they must now send any research based on the national pupil database to civil servants two days before publication.

Several have joined forces with unions and teachers to campaign against the change – including writing to education secretary Justine Greening, Schools Week can reveal.

The Department for Education (DfE) has said that researchers failing to adhere to the request could be barred from accessing the database in future.

The government says this will ensure policy officials and press officers are not “caught off guard” when data is published, but critics say it will stop any rapid scrutiny of policies.

Academics and journalists fear that if the move is not challenged, it will stop them publishing critical research.

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:13 am

StephenDolan wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/35-m ... n-vehicles

Remind me. How much has been wasted on Johnson vanity projects? This sum in comparison is pitifully low.

Who better to select as the person to represent the whole country to the rest of the world

I continue to believe(TM) that the current members of the so-called Government are so far out of their depth it's like watching someone trying to kayak up the Niagara Falls. Thank goodness we have a free press who can justifably ignore it all because a minor pop star has had the temerity to show some compassion to refugees fleeing a war zone...which is really really important...apparently

...and another thought on Syria - why's it suddenly become so important? Millions have been being displaced and thousands have been dying for years...and nery a mention of Saudi Arabia and the hospitals and schools being bombed in the Yemen...doublethink is alive and well in the corridors of power...even going as far as to block an investigation (allegedly)?

Britain has blocked European Union efforts to establish an independent international inquiry into the war in Yemen, prompting dismay among human rights groups.
The Netherlands had hoped to garner broad support for its proposal that the UN Human Rights Council (HRC) in Geneva set up an inquiry to examine civilian deaths in Yemen, where the Saudi Arabia-led coalition is accused of committing war crimes.
Instead, with the UK refusing to give its backing, the Netherlands’ proposal for an international inquiry – submitted on Friday by Slovakia on behalf of the EU – was replaced with a much weaker one that the office of the UN high commissioner for human rights (OHCHR) dispatch a mission “with assistance from relevant experts, to monitor and report on the situation ... in Yemen”. This falls far short of what human rights groups and the OHCHR had wanted.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ts-inquiry

As with banking, I'm not certain the omnishambolic clusterfracking mayhemists have thought this through....without a seat at the table, our one-time friends in Europe may well decide to actually investigate and take action...I'm not so sure they (the OCM) really need isolationism.

...and apologies for my rudeness - mofternoon afterevenimorn all

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:18 am

JonnyT1234 wrote:Donald Trump told 14-year-old girls: ‘In a couple of years I’ll be dating you’ - The Independent
https://apple.news/AJQxsRzpGT9uE_NykCJ9Img" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Such a comedian'

Not laughing. Not laughing at all.

Seconded...most definitely not laughing.

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:31 am

JonnyT1234 wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Question number 3:

(i) maintaining full membership of the Single Market, as at present;

(ii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Economic Area;

(iii) negotiating UK terms for membership of the European Free Trade Agreement;

(iv) negotiating a Customs union with the EU;

(v) negotiating a bespoke, bilateral free trade deal with the EU;

(vi) adopting a unilateral free trade policy with all trading partners; and

(vii) reverting to WTO rules for future trade arrangements, including the imposition of tariffs.

3. Of the options it is still considering, would any involve the European Commission continuing to police and enforce the UK’s compliance with Single Market regulations?
i) yes ii) yes iii) yes iv) yes v) yes (while suffering the disadvantage of being the smaller partner) vi) presumably vii) too big and hideous to think about at this time in the morning
The problem with these questions is that they're reinforcing the premise that the only option for the 'take back control' crowd is (vii). Hard Brexit.

The problem for everyone else is that this is reinforcing the premise that Brexit truly is going to be a total clusterfuck for the country for no benefit whatsoever.

Rock. Hard place.

I'm with Donald (Tusk, not the other one) - 'hard' brexit or no brexit...and the Tory answer to that question is an easy 'no'...'cos we won't have them coming over here telling us what to do...they're way too bossy...we'll tell THEM what they're going to do 'cos the will of the British people yada yada

ttfn

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:36 am

Good morfternoon.

@Hobiejoe

Happy birthday (belatedly)!

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:39 am

yahyah wrote:Morning.

The Sun has released a video clip of Paul Mason talking about Corbyn. He didn't know someone was recording it on a phone or tablet.
It doesn't seem that controversial. Who has claimed that Corbyn appeals to the working class ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ays-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mason has quite a nice response, tbf.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:47 am

yahyah wrote:Morning.

The Sun has released a video clip of Paul Mason talking about Corbyn. He didn't know someone was recording it on a phone or tablet.
It doesn't seem that controversial. Who has claimed that Corbyn appeals to the working class ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ays-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You have to laugh at Mason's anger at being exposed for thinking what everyone rational thinks

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:51 am

And indeed as I mentioned the other day through the medium of Izzard. Folks round 'ere aren't from round 'ere.
Blinking singularity.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 10:54 am

SpinningHugo wrote:
yahyah wrote:Morning.

The Sun has released a video clip of Paul Mason talking about Corbyn. He didn't know someone was recording it on a phone or tablet.
It doesn't seem that controversial. Who has claimed that Corbyn appeals to the working class ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ays-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You have to laugh at Mason's anger at being exposed for thinking what everyone rational thinks

Oh, I must be irrational. SH has deemed it so. Pillock!

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:00 am

SpinningHugo wrote:
yahyah wrote:Morning.

The Sun has released a video clip of Paul Mason talking about Corbyn. He didn't know someone was recording it on a phone or tablet.
It doesn't seem that controversial. Who has claimed that Corbyn appeals to the working class ?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ays-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You have to laugh at Mason's anger at being exposed for thinking what everyone rational thinks

He is actually angry because of the Sun's subterfuge I suspect, and quite rightly so.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:01 am

It doesn't matter (FO). Just pass it by.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:06 am

Did you hear that? Me neither.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:08 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

A Labour assembly member's damning article about the Boris vanity project also known as the Garden Bridge.

http://littleatoms.com/news-society/bor ... m-cronyism

Nearly £40 million of taxpayer cash has been poured into the Thames with nothing to show for it but a glossy website, a series of damning reports and a furious local community. We are witnessing the slow, expensive death of the Garden Bridge. It would be better to put it out of its misery sooner rather than later.
Chris Cook's comment...

Chris Cook ‏@xtophercook 13m13 minutes ago

Chris Cook Retweeted Tom Copley

The Garden Bridge is, in a strange way, feels to its critics like this year's Kids Company.
Quite.

Hard to fault that article but I'm going to. How is handing a multi-million pound contract - and millions of £s that they don't have to pay back - to your favoured company in a rigged bidding process not corruption?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:09 am

http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/policy- ... conomy.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From 2014 but for anyone interested who's not seen it - figures on non-public income to university sector from foreign students (etc)

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:16 am

JonnyT1234 wrote:Hard to fault that article but I'm going to. How is handing a multi-million pound contract - and millions of £s that they don't have to pay back - to your favoured company in a rigged bidding process not corruption?

We might think that but a London Assembly might need to be a bit more careful in how he puts things.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 14 Oct, 2016 11:16 am

https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk ... orders-new" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Second fresh Deepcut inquest granted: High Court orders new investigation into 1995 death of Private Sean Benton