Saturday 15 and Sunday 16 October 2016

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 6:59 am

Hello! Welcome to World Bridge (jumping) day.

https://officialbridgeday.com/bridge-day/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brought to you by the power of HindleA's reference to World Dictionary Day (yesterday, in advance of tomorrow), and the direction that took me in.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 7:13 am

London zoo gorilla broke enclosure glass twice before escape
Although the zoo maintains Kumbuka did not break glass on Thursday, the ‘destructive’ silverback has form
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ore-escape" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh Jonny. (shakes head disappointed)

Visitors to the attraction were locked in tea rooms and gift shops for an hour and armed police rushed to the zoo on Thursday evening after Kumbuka, a dominant male gorilla, broke out of his enclosure into a secure keepers’ area before being tranquillised by vets and returned to his den.

Or is it just that they've got a new marketing person in?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 7:21 am

After Marmite, the next institution under threat as a result of Brexit is Eurostar. The train operator is to cut one in 12 services from London St Pancras to Paris and Brussels, due to a “challenging environment”.

In addition, 80 staff are likely to lose their jobs.
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/new ... 62441.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bleeding Brexiteers, staying over here and voting to create an environment that means half of us lose our jobs.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:28 am

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/ther ... the-block/

By Nick Cohen, but (i think, but may just need more sleep) not too bad (despite obligatory dig at Labour ).

Understand what this government is trying to get away with, and think about how it is trying to get away with it, and you will see it is reconstituting the oldest and dirtiest alliance in Tory-history: the alliance between snobs and mobs.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:37 am

Bank of England governor Mark Carney warns Theresa May not to tell him how to do his job
'We are not going to take instruction on our policies from the political side'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 62801.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Carney one of the few adults we have left running stuff.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:41 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 62556.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Labour criticises Theresa May for 'ruling out extra NHS funds'
Party responds to reports that NHS chief has been told there will be no extra money, despite warnings of escalating problems

It's OK I think she must mean none extra beyond the additional 350 million a week her Brexit group will deliver us as part of their best possible deal for Britain. We'll be fine.

... what's that ....?

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:46 am

Morfternoon...

I hope (where I live etc

) no-one minds me reposting a link from @YahYah yesterday....

Put trade unionists on Brexit negotiation team, TUC’s Frances O’Grady says

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 61446.html

...in answer to those (like me) who are desperately waiting for the grown-ups to get involved and put some actual reality into Theresas' Mayhem - it made my weekend when I saw it - I'm sure, for now, HMG will ignore the call, but they (the TUC) won't go away on this and is an opportunity for a truly representative (and 'grown-up') voice to get involved...I particularly liked this...

“But critically, from my perspective, it’s not good enough to have cosy chats with the IoD [Institute of Directors] or the CBI [Confederation of British Industry] behind closed doors. This is about the future of working people and we want to have a voice at that table too.
“Because I think most of us are not entirely confident in the three Brexiteers, when our future lies in their hands – whether it’s David Davis, Boris Johnson, or Liam Fox – or to give him his full, title ‘former disgraced defence secretary Liam Fox’. I don’t think anyone would rely on them to get the best deal for working people.”

Lonewolfie · Post by **Lonewolfie** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:55 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Bank of England governor Mark Carney warns Theresa May not to tell him how to do his job
'We are not going to take instruction on our policies from the political side'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 62801.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Carney one of the few adults we have left running stuff.

It's really quite odd for an old tin-foil hatter like me....that's Bilderberg Carney of Goldman-Sachs lineage, so to all intents and purposes, very much the real enemy - destroyer of the social economy in Canada and brought to Britain by Gidiot at the behest of the Bankster class...yet I find myself feeling supportive towards him...

What a very weird world!

...and bumped into a fact yesterday...it's 45 years and 5 days since the release of 'Imagine'...with 'Working Class Hero' as the 'b' side...whatever happened to all of the heroes? (Rhetorical, natch

)

ttfn

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 9:59 am

Indeed

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 10:51 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 60836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Racist hate crime is so out of control that even white British people are being attacked
Pointing out the rise in hate crimes post-Brexit is not an attempt to undermine the democratic will of the British people. We must stand firmly against xenophobia and hatred, regardless of our opinions on the EU referendum

Which St Theresa of May can divine through conversation with her $1.4 tril-investment-fund-business senior executive husband and execute on our behalf without even having to get the view of our democratically (if in a v flawed way) elected representatives.

Impressive.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 10:56 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... -councils/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Grandmother, 71, sent to top security jail after refusing council's demands over brother's care

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:01 am

http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/ca ... tial-care/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Care crisis: Anger over CCG’s ‘unacceptable’ policy on residential care

Disabled people who need more than eight hours of long-term healthcare a day should be pushed into residential care rather than being allowed to continue living at home, according to a policy introduced by NHS bosses.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:06 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 60836.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Racist hate crime is so out of control that even white British people are being attacked
Pointing out the rise in hate crimes post-Brexit is not an attempt to undermine the democratic will of the British people. We must stand firmly against xenophobia and hatred, regardless of our opinions on the EU referendum
Which St Theresa of May can divine through conversation with her $1.4 tril-investment-fund-business senior executive husband and execute on our behalf without even having to get the view of our democratically (if in a v flawed way) elected representatives.

Impressive.

Warning - do *not* read the comments under that piece

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:17 am

Which of course I did.Rather liked Cos Mo

Reading these comments really confirms why I hate my own countrymen. And before any of you knuckledraggers tell me to go elsewhere, no - this is my country too and I'll stay here pissing you fascists off for as long as I breathe.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:25 am

Morning all.

A day which started well and will almost certainly end badly (Orient playing at home).

Something caught my eye from the "no more cash for the NHS" article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... alth-chief" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

She told him the NHS could learn from the painful cuts to the Home Office and Ministry of Defence budgets that she and Philip Hammond, the chancellor, had overseen when they were in charge of those departments, according to senior figures in the NHS who were given an account of the discussion.

Is she really that dim? Operational and administrative budgets are not even remotely comparable. I could just see our production director's face if he got told something similar by the HR director.

Incidentally, we will get an apology from the Leavers for that big fat whopper of £350m a week for the NHS?

We won't?

Oh.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:29 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nald-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don’t insult gorillas by comparing them to Donald Trump
Ros Coward

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:34 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nald-trump

Don’t insult gorillas by comparing them to Donald Trump
Ros Coward

Oh Joooo-nnnnnnnnnnn-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 11:49 am

We’re heading for the biggest crisis since Suez
matthew parris

It is horribly apparent that, four months after the referendum, the Brexiteers have no idea where they’re leading us

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/were- ... 04f00d3d53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:01 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:We’re heading for the biggest crisis since Suez
matthew parris

It is horribly apparent that, four months after the referendum, the Brexiteers have no idea where they’re leading us

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/were- ... 04f00d3d53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish that we could hear the voice of a pro "outer" here. I'd seriously welcome another perspective, assuming that they'd lift the gloom. I (we) might be missing something. Can't think what - but I'm open to suggestions.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:01 pm

Good morfternoon.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:03 pm

PorFavor wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:We’re heading for the biggest crisis since Suez
matthew parris

It is horribly apparent that, four months after the referendum, the Brexiteers have no idea where they’re leading us

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/were- ... 04f00d3d53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish that we could hear the voice of a pro "outer" here. I'd seriously welcome another perspective, assuming that they'd lift the gloom. I (we) might be missing something. Can't think what - but I'm open to suggestions.

Especially one who supported it from a leftist perspective. Actually, how *is* Lexit going??

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:08 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 62286.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hard Brexit deal could leave UK vulnerable to gas crisis, MPs warn
‘It is critical that the Government takes basic steps to stabilise investment in the energy sector’

As far as I'm concerned the lovable Bullingdon tearaways and that marvellous one-woman Thatcher tribute band have done a sterling job so far. I am confident that nothing can go wrong here, and fully endorse going ahead with this plan on the grounds that roughly half of us thought we should before any of it was looked at in any detail.

I mean if someone at work wants to do a project obviously no one would never dream of getting us to assess the potential benefits against the likely costs and quite possilbe risks - no matter how big the proposal. We always just get "go ahead". I fully support the Brexiteers and their unelected leader taking exactly the same approach with the country. It's never done us any harm.

... hold on .... gotta go .... got the boss on the line....

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:17 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:We’re heading for the biggest crisis since Suez
matthew parris

It is horribly apparent that, four months after the referendum, the Brexiteers have no idea where they’re leading us

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/were- ... 04f00d3d53" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wish that we could hear the voice of a pro "outer" here. I'd seriously welcome another perspective, assuming that they'd lift the gloom. I (we) might be missing something. Can't think what - but I'm open to suggestions.

Especially one who supported it from a leftist perspective. Actually, how *is* Lexit going??

Well, yes. From a leftist perspective there are things that need changing within the EU. But I can't see how our leaving can make those changes happen. The UK is going in the other direction to any improvements (again, from a leftist perspective). In fact, it seems to me that things will only get worse.

Edited - typo

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:22 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... -councils/

Grandmother, 71, sent to top security jail after refusing council's demands over brother's care

Ah. I think I've caught your drift. Hilda Ogden\Jean Alexander?

Edited to add -

The "muriel" thing - which, unhelpfully, hasn't appeared in the quote of your post

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:31 pm

There's a new Adam Curtis documentary available on BBC iplayer from Sunday.

Hypernormalisation: Adam Curtis plots a path from Syria to Trump, via Jane Fonda

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... utin-syria

The last one - Bitter Lake - is still on iplayer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... itter-lake

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:32 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
London zoo gorilla broke enclosure glass twice before escape
Although the zoo maintains Kumbuka did not break glass on Thursday, the ‘destructive’ silverback has form
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ore-escape" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oh Jonny. (shakes head disappointed)

What can I say? I thought I saw Donald walking past and a mist descended when I got a sudden urge to grab at his crotch and plant one on his puckered face. Completely normal behaviour for someone in a locked room, I'm sure he would agree.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:35 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nald-trump

Don’t insult gorillas by comparing them to Donald Trump
Ros Coward

Yeah. We have much better hair.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:37 pm

I think I have found May's Brexit plan

Maquiladora

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquiladora" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_economic_zone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:38 pm

PF yeah.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:39 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

A day which started well and will almost certainly end badly (Orient playing at home).

Something caught my eye from the "no more cash for the NHS" article.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... alth-chief" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

She told him the NHS could learn from the painful cuts to the Home Office and Ministry of Defence budgets that she and Philip Hammond, the chancellor, had overseen when they were in charge of those departments, according to senior figures in the NHS who were given an account of the discussion.
Is she really that dim? Operational and administrative budgets are not even remotely comparable. I could just see our production director's face if he got told something similar by the HR director.

Incidentally, we will get an apology from the Leavers for that big fat whopper of £350m a week for the NHS?

We won't?

Oh.

The MoD can save lots of money by not purchasing stuff to kill people that never actually gets used.
The NHS can save lots of money by not purchasing stuff to help people that is always used.

May apparently can't see the difference between those two statements.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:47 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/public-lead ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My police force is struggling to conceal the fact that it's sinking

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:48 pm

Q4 of 170:

4. Of the options it is still considering, would any involve the UK continuing to make net contributions to the European Union budget?

Let's just face it. The answer is yes to all of them except the one that involves slitting our own throat while gibbering maniacally, "I'll outlive you all, you won't beat me, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..."

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 12:53 pm

British households fail to recycle a 'staggering' 16m plastic bottles a day - the guardian
https://apple.news/AxCndEJ65Sl2ZIMHmgSBs8w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That nearly half of all plastic bottles used per day are not recycled is indeed staggering, but what is even more staggering is that it is 35 million per day that are used.

Anyone remember when glass bottles and their recycling used to be in place, e.g. Corona. Highly effective. Very efficient. Incentivised to increase likelihood of returns etc. Killed by Thatcher.

And now we have this.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 1:00 pm

The reasons people voted leave

or

"50 dumb reasons for leaving the EU"
‘I did it to put everyone else in the shit’

https://extranewsfeed.com/50-dumb-fuck- ... .dbjsekelh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 1:34 pm

the day the corona van came round was also a great highspot. got money back on your empties which one used to purchase dandelion and burdock.
my dad made our ginger beer (with and without occasional explosions)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 1:38 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:The reasons people voted leave

or

"50 dumb reasons for leaving the EU"
‘I did it to put everyone else in the shit’

https://extranewsfeed.com/50-dumb-fuck- ... .dbjsekelh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

less than edifying

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 2:39 pm

Excuse number 12 on the list makes one wonder how many Leave voters had ever actually voted in an European Parliament election.

But, we're not supposed to criticise people are we ?

Someone mentioned wanting to hear from a Lexit supporter.
They seem very quiet these days. Dreda Say Mitchell seems to have forgotten all about it completely, after telling us to vote for a left wing Brexit.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 2:51 pm

BMA: Theresa May lacks understanding about seriousness of NHS crisis

System on ‘brink of collapse’ but no new funding in autumn statement, despite leave campaigners’ ‘£350m a week’ claim (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -statement

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 2:52 pm

Get you Union Jacks out Brexiteers - we've got "our country" back.
.... oh ......

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20161015 ... um-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
Scotland could hold another referendum on independence within the next 12 months if Edinburgh thinks London is taking the country towards Brexit without the EU's single market, John Curtice, Professor of Politics at Strathclyde University and President of the British Polling Council, told Radio Sputnik.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20161015 ... um-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 2:53 pm

We come from the land of ice and snow.
Eh Beryl?

Which is to say:
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etc

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 2:58 pm

Theresa May will probably get a good Brexit deal, but nobody can say so - The Independent
https://apple.news/AN1uer-bGSGSDp0_uPK1pJw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

John Rentoul living up to the nominative determinism in the second half of his surname.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 3:17 pm

Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB 33m33 minutes ago
The letter from a former CON MEP that is going to Tory voters in Witney. BREXIT is a big issue

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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 3:34 pm

Brexit bound: Roland Rudd on Craig Oliver’s ‘Unleashing Demons’
An insider’s account of the referendum campaign reveals the confusion at the heart of Number 10

https://www.ft.com/content/ed6bf5a0-8fb ... 28cb934b78" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 3:36 pm

I see the "Russian Navy sails along English Channel" squirrel is being rolled out again. Last spotted in late April/early May last year, this year's rodenty nautical outing is all to do with ramping up Boris' Syrian tub thumping

Unleash The Squirrels!

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 3:55 pm

The scariest thing you will see this Halloween... a Trumpkin. Definitely keep it away from the children, otherwise it'll be dating them in 10 years.

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 4:01 pm

That is sensational.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 5:08 pm

The BBC’s star presenters will be grounded at home instead of parachuted in to cover big stories around the world, it has emerged, as more cost-cutting measures from the corporation begin to bite.

Well-known presenters for the corporation such as Emily Maitlis, Nick Robinson and Huw Edwards will no longer anchor programmes from the heart of an unfolding news story, as has been typical in recent years when responding to major events. (Guardian)

Can't say that this news dstresses me at all. I'm sure that there are more important aspects to any cuts that are being made. Or aren't we grown up enough to hear about them?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... er-stories

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 5:21 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:The reasons people voted leave

or

"50 dumb reasons for leaving the EU"
‘I did it to put everyone else in the shit’

https://extranewsfeed.com/50-dumb-fuck- ... .dbjsekelh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That one you quote fits in with my own theory, which is that the 52% voted to make the 48% as miserable as they already were.
Succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 5:46 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
A day which started well and will almost certainly end badly (Orient playing at home).

Told you. 5 home defeats on the trot.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 15 Oct, 2016 6:10 pm

Well.

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 13s14 seconds ago

On what the government should prioritise when negotiating Brexit:
Reducing migration: 39%
Favourable trade deals: 49%
(via ComRes)

So we could end up exactly as we are now but at least we'll have taken back control.

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