Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd October 2016

Post by **refitman** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 2:54 pm

refitman wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
yahyah wrote:Off topic but I'd appreciate views from people who use Kindles etc.

Having previously sworn I'd never buy a digital reading device, the time is coming where I may need to dip my toes into the water and use one for a project I'm working on.

Any recommendations/warnings about which brands to avoid would be gratefully received.
My grandson uses his phone to access Google Books, buy's what he wants and downloads them to the phone where he stores them to read or pops them over to his computer for later reading (after transferring back to the phone).

Google Books https://play.google.com/store/books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do the same, using a mix of the Kindle app, Kobo, Google Books and a separate ebook app. An actual Kindle will be much easier to read though.

This is what it looks like on my phone:

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This is close to actual size, albeit a bit fuzzier.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 2:57 pm

Thanks folks.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 2:58 pm

refitman wrote:
refitman wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote: My grandson uses his phone to access Google Books, buy's what he wants and downloads them to the phone where he stores them to read or pops them over to his computer for later reading (after transferring back to the phone).

Google Books https://play.google.com/store/books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do the same, using a mix of the Kindle app, Kobo, Google Books and a separate ebook app. An actual Kindle will be much easier to read though.
This is what it looks like on my phone:
tmp_1022-Screenshot_20161023-145223769277983.png
This is close to actual size, albeit a bit fuzzier.

Queen of Angels by Greg Bear, if anyone's wondering.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:02 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:This is quite funny.

Gary Lineker’s critics just can’t handle freedom of speech

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016 ... of-speech/

There, in microcosm, you see how debate has changed in this country. Everyone’s switched sides.

Because, until quite recently, it was the socially conservative who complained that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially liberal. Now, it’s the socially liberal who complain that “you can’t say anything nowadays” without causing outrage among the socially conservative.

It’s fascinating: a complete role reversal. What are the people calling for Lineker to lose his job, after all, if not hyper-sensitive “special snowflakes” who are trying to “no-platform” someone, merely because he expressed an opinion they didn’t like? Why do they find the word racist so “triggering”? Is their generation so cosseted it can’t handle a bit of criticism? Can’t Lineker even mention immigration without people jumping down his throat? Aren’t they just shutting down debate about his legitimate concerns, by taking offence and playing the victim card? Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

Honestly. It’s political incorrectness gone mad.
Quite.

I'm not usually a fan of Deacon, but that is good.

Can imagine some of the comments underneath it - if the Torygraph still allowed them

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:23 pm

You are tech wizard Refitman.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:40 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disabled jobseekers facing dramatic fall-off in support
Number of disabled people receiving specialist help to fall by 50% after 80% funding cut to new work programme

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:42 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... dApp_Tweet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Theresa May ‘raiding’ childcare fund for poor families to fulfil election promise
Disadvantaged children paying the price as ministers struggle to fund election promise of extra childcare hours for the better-off

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:46 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/o ... rk-kermode" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I, Daniel Blake review – a battle cry for the dispossessed

"it is a celebration of the decency and kinship of (extra)ordinary people who look out for each other when the state abandons its duty of care.....unbreakable social bonds of so-called “broken Britain”"

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 3:52 pm

I, Daniel Blake - looking forward to seeing it.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:16 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:I, Daniel Blake - looking forward to seeing it.

?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:19 pm

haven't been able to yet.
limited cinematorial access.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:36 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:haven't been able to yet.
limited cinematorial access.

Ah. I thought you'd waived your right to anonymity.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:42 pm

What a depressing day, politically\televisually. I had the misfortune to catch James Delingpole and some other lunatic (Neil someone? I was too depleted to pay attention) ranting about refugees who (might) have had the gall to outlive their childhood.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:48 pm

PorFavor wrote:What a depressing day, politically\televisually. I had the misfortune to catch James Delingpole and some other lunatic (Neil someone? I was too depleted to pay attention) ranting about refugees who (might) have had the gall to outlive their childhood.

Yes. It's grim. Having just about got my head nominally around the Brexit thing, am now coming terms with being assumed to be a racist anti-immigrant inhumane git. Not entirely edifying.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 4:50 pm

Have just returned from tour of mate's new house.
There is a garden.
(not even remotely jealous much emoticon)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:11 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/724279 ... ut-Britain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Farage blasts bullying banks for NOT ACCEPTING Brexit amid threat to pull cash out of UK

Farage blasts reality for being real.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:20 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10 ... rade-deal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
LONDON (Reuters) – Britain could slash its headline corporation tax rate to 10 percent from 20 percent if the European Union refuses to agree a post-Brexit free trade deal or blocks UK-based financial services firms from accessing its market, the Sunday Times reported, citing an unidentified source.

That would mean reducing total tax receipts by 5% which is c. 25 billion quid a year
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _Final.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which is 481 million quid a week. Which is - hang on - yes it's MORE than the already fictitious 350 million quid a week.

Well colour me sideways. Who'd have thought.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:22 pm

Can we just stop this now. It's getting embarrassing.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:27 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Have just returned from tour of mate's new house.
There is a garden.
(not even remotely jealous much emoticon)

SEETHIN' with jealously?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:52 pm

BBCBreaking: Jimmy Perry, creator of one of TV's most popular comedy series, Dad's Army, has died aged 93… " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 5:56 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:BBCBreaking: Jimmy Perry, creator of one of TV's most popular comedy series, Dad's Army, has died aged 93… " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Mastermind 2030
"In what year did..."
"2016. the answer's always 2016"

Sad. But hey, 93...

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 6:36 pm

Michael Gove and Jacob Rees-Mogg need to stop throwing their toys out of the pram – if Mark Carney leaves, we'll be in trouble
They say that no good deed goes unpunished – and Rees-Mogg and Gove are contemporary proof of that. Because this pair seem to want to reward the Governor by harassing him out of his job

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/mar ... 76206.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:11 pm

Interesting.

I note there's a story in the ST about "46,000 more deaths on the NHS than anywhere else" of the type which is usually some made-up bollocks taking no account of when diagnosed, individual patient background etc.

But have a look who's behind it.

https://twitter.com/_UK2020

A think tank established by @Owen_PatersonMP to produce a conservative policy platform for the 2020 General Election.

Well. It gets better...publication is on Tuesday with a panel.

http://www.uk2020.org.uk/events/health/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Panel:
Rt Hon Owen Paterson MP, Chairman UK 2020
Professor Karol Sikora, Dean and Professor of Medicine, University of Buckingham and Fellow of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge
James Bartholomew, author The Welfare of Nations
Dr Fiona Payne, General Practitioner, NHS GP Appraiser,
Dr Kristian Niemietz, Head of Health and Welfare, Institute of Economic Affairs

Bartholomew launched his latest "The Welfare of Nations" at the IEA...

Fiona Payne? Apart from still being an NHS GP it says this:

http://www.kingedwardvii.co.uk/consulta ... ona-payne/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In 2010, Fiona moved into the independent medical sector with a GP colleague, Dr Justine Setchell, setting up their Private GP practice, GPatLondon W1, initially based in Harley Street, and now at King Edward VII's Hospital. In 2012, they developed an innovative online private medical consultation software called GPatHome.com for which they received an Angel Academe Entrepreneur award in 2015.

Private. Private. Private.

Wonder what the paper will say the answer should be?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:18 pm

The story in that last post is one of a type where you should always, without fail, ask yourself "Who is telling me this and why?"

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:18 pm

Yorkshire academy chain defends spending more than £300,000 on IT deal with firm run by its own boss

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/edu ... -1-8196191" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:27 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Yorkshire academy chain defends spending more than £300,000 on IT deal with firm run by its own boss

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/edu ... -1-8196191" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's indefensible.

I love the fact that it was after "a competitive tendering process". Yes, of course it was. What a surprise that the job went to who it did!

Apparently the last edu story filed by John Roberts -a real shame because he's been first-rate over the years I've read his stuff - esp. over the Kings Science fraud.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:55 pm

The Death of British Business
Simon Head

A long - and scary - read

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/10/18 ... -business/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:58 pm

http://www.outlookindia.com/newswire/st ... ses/959382" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
Britain's Queen Elizabeth II faces massive losses on her royal estate following the country's vote to leave the European Union (EU), a media report claimed today.
Sandringham Estate, the British monarch's country retreat in Norfolk, will lose close to 700,000 pounds a year when EU farming subsidies end while the farms near Windsor Castle will be around 300,000 pounds down, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 7:58 pm

Your star sign has almost definitely changed

https://www.indy100.com/article/your-st ... yeJHzBFNmb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **refitman** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:02 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:

Your star sign has almost definitely changed

https://www.indy100.com/article/your-st ... yeJHzBFNmb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Alex Andreou ‏@sturdyAlex 10h10 hours ago

I could never have a serious relationship with anyone who believes in star signs. Or with a Taurus.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:15 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016 ... nt-inquiry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Public parks face ‘nightmare’ funding crisis
Less money and more demand mean that Britain’s urban green spaces are in decline. Now a parliamentary inquiry will assess the threat

What do we have to do to stop us voting Tory.
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:15 pm

Want a really shit life?
Vote Tory. Oh you already are. GREAT!

Carry on!

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:27 pm

The Labour Party's official Brexit policy is to try and block Brexit

http://uk.businessinsider.com/labour-co ... -50-2016-9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

News to me, first I've heard this.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:27 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:BBCBreaking: Jimmy Perry, creator of one of TV's most popular comedy series, Dad's Army, has died aged 93… " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
Mastermind 2030
"In what year did..."
"2016. the answer's always 2016"

Sad. But hey, 93...

He did outlive virtually the entire cast, though.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:29 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Yorkshire academy chain defends spending more than £300,000 on IT deal with firm run by its own boss

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/edu ... -1-8196191" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some interesting tweets coming out after this...

Peter Bell
‏@peterbellswfc

@JohnGRoberts @rrunsworth some garbage there. I manage Wakefield Councils Clerking Service. We weren't invited to tender and are 50% cheaper

@rrunsworth @miconm @JohnGRoberts Given that the LA clerked prior to academisation you'd think we'd have been aware of the clerking tender

So just how "competitive" was that tender I wonder and how widely was it publicized?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:48 pm

the week wrote:
Brexit leaders "ganging up" on Theresa May.

I guess she'd better go and tell Miss.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 8:52 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:The Death of British Business
Simon Head

A long - and scary - read

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/10/18 ... -business/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for that. A very good read. As you say, scary.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 9:24 pm

I, Daniel Blake: the trailer for Ken Loach's Palme d'Or-winner – video

In Ken Loach’s I, Daniel Blake, the titular Daniel is a carpenter out of work after a heart attack, attempting to claim benefits through a welfare system that’s designed to trip him at every turn. I, Daniel Blake, which won the Palme d’Or at last month’s Cannes film festival, stars Dave Johns and Hayley Squires and is released in the UK on 21 October

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JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 9:24 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10 ... rade-deal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
LONDON (Reuters) – Britain could slash its headline corporation tax rate to 10 percent from 20 percent if the European Union refuses to agree a post-Brexit free trade deal or blocks UK-based financial services firms from accessing its market, the Sunday Times reported, citing an unidentified source.
That would mean reducing total tax receipts by 5% which is c. 25 billion quid a year
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _Final.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which is 481 million quid a week. Which is - hang on - yes it's MORE than the already fictitious 350 million quid a week.

Well colour me sideways. Who'd have thought.

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(Just in case there's any doubt, we aren't King Arthur in this one.)

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 9:33 pm

refitman wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:

Your star sign has almost definitely changed

https://www.indy100.com/article/your-st ... yeJHzBFNmb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Alex Andreou ‏@sturdyAlex 10h10 hours ago

I could never have a serious relationship with anyone who believes in star signs. Or with a Taurus.

If anyone asks me, I always say I was born under Pyrex.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 9:35 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:I, Daniel Blake: the trailer for Ken Loach's Palme d'Or-winner – video

In Ken Loach’s I, Daniel Blake, the titular Daniel is a carpenter out of work after a heart attack, attempting to claim benefits through a welfare system that’s designed to trip him at every turn. I, Daniel Blake, which won the Palme d’Or at last month’s Cannes film festival, stars Dave Johns and Hayley Squires and is released in the UK on 21 October

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I heard Mark Kermode reviewing it (BBC News Channel) and he described the system that the main characters were up against in the most scathing of terms.

I'm now waiting for calls for him to be sacked.

Edited to add the BBC bit

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 9:37 pm

As I said last week, this Autumn Statement, and given that Hammond seems to be very much the pragmatic type and not given to Osborne-trying-too-hard-to-be-clever tactics, will be very interesting. Especiailly interesting will be the reaction to it of the Brexiteers.

Post by **adam** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 11:05 pm

We're sorry to interrupt your thread - something weird happened with a reply and now it won't let me delete. Here is some music.

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Post by **adam** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 11:06 pm

adam wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:I, Daniel Blake: the trailer for Ken Loach's Palme d'Or-winner – video

In Ken Loach’s I, Daniel Blake, the titular Daniel is a carpenter out of work after a heart attack, attempting to claim benefits through a welfare system that’s designed to trip him at every turn. I, Daniel Blake, which won the Palme d’Or at last month’s Cannes film festival, stars Dave Johns and Hayley Squires and is released in the UK on 21 October

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I heard Mark Kermode reviewing it (BBC News Channel) and he described the system that the main characters were up against in the most scathing of terms.

I'm now waiting for calls for him to be sacked.

Edited to add the BBC bit

I sent a couple of emails to the show this week, and in the podcast bit at the end Simon Mayo said "Adam" and then Kermode spent five more minutes quoting bits of Young Frankenstein, and they never got back to the email.

Could be worse; Could be raining.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 23 Oct, 2016 11:13 pm

adam wrote:
adam wrote:
PorFavor wrote: I heard Mark Kermode reviewing it (BBC News Channel) and he described the system that the main characters were up against in the most scathing of terms.

I'm now waiting for calls for him to be sacked.

Edited to add the BBC bit
I sent a couple of emails to the show this week, and in the podcast bit at the end Simon Mayo said "Adam" and then Kermode spent five more minutes quoting bits of Young Frankenstein, and they never got back to the email.

Could be worse; Could be raining.

I watched the trailer for the new Gore Verbinsky film this morning and said, out loud, "Hello Jason Issacs".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 24 Oct, 2016 12:09 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... government" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Theresa May warned of risk of constitutional crisis over Brexit deal
Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish leaders must agree terms of EU departure to avoid conflict, says Institute for Government

http://www.instituteforgovernment.org.u ... ion-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;