Monday 31st October 2016

[AnatolyKasparov]

NHS funding -

Jon Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, told Hunt his figures had been discredited by the Commons health committee. He said they could only be more discredited if they were put on the side of a bus and driven around by Boris Johnson. (Politics Live, Guardian)

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[StephenDolan]

NHS funding -

Jon Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, told Hunt his figures had been discredited by the Commons health committee. He said they could only be more discredited if they were put on the side of a bus and driven around by Boris Johnson. (Politics Live, Guardian)

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Such a great double cut statement that it'll feature in the BBC news, right?

[frightful_oik]

NHS funding -

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Such a great double cut statement that it'll feature in the BBC news, right?

Nothing I've heard so far. Not holding my breath.

[AnatolyKasparov]

I would not advise anybody doing that in this instance, no

[pk1]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ve-inquiry


Government rules out Orgreave inquiry

They don't want Thatcher's orders to SY Police being examined by an independent panel.

What's the chance of this being in a memo or letter?

Fairly good I'd have thought & it doesn't seem that long ago that her notes in the strike, assuming they existed, were discussed on here so we were either right to think the notes would exist back then & again now or we were wrong then & I'm wrong now.
In any case, I don't think the Cons were ever going to risk any such note, if any exist, being released to an independent panel.

[HindleA]

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[StephenDolan]

They don't want Thatcher's orders to SY Police being examined by an independent panel.

What's the chance of this being in a memo or letter?

Fairly good I'd have thought & it doesn't seem that long ago that her notes in the strike, assuming they existed, were discussed on here so we were either right to think the notes would exist back then & again now or we were wrong then & I'm wrong now.
In any case, I don't think the Cons were ever going to risk any such note, if any exist, being released to an independent panel.

Nick Jones on PM was saying to Mair that any inquiry would result in papers withheld having to be provided and that the Thatcher loyalists (his phrase) would be desperate that this doesn't happen, given how she micromanaged the strike.

[pk1]

What's the chance of this being in a memo or letter?

Fairly good I'd have thought & it doesn't seem that long ago that her notes in the strike, assuming they existed, were discussed on here so we were either right to think the notes would exist back then & again now or we were wrong then & I'm wrong now.
In any case, I don't think the Cons were ever going to risk any such note, if any exist, being released to an independent panel.

Nick Jones on PM was saying to Mair that any inquiry would result in papers withheld having to be provided and that the Thatcher loyalists (his phrase) would be desperate that this doesn't happen, given how she micromanaged the strike.

Nick Jones & I are in agreement.

[PorFavor]

Keith Vaz could lose justice committee post in unusual MPs' vote

Tory MP Andrew Bridgen forces vote on appointment of ex-home affairs committee chair, who stood down over sex scandal (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-mps-vote

[PorFavor]

Mark Carney to serve extra year as Bank of England governor

Carney ends speculation as to his future at Threadneedle Street after meeting Theresa May at No 10, saying he will stay until 2019 (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... d-governor

[HindleA]

#Neil Crowther

So arrived at para 130 - benefits assessment. 'Personalised' 'requirements' to be set by Work Coach for those in Support Group.
'We would of course put safeguards in place to ensure work coaches do not require someone attend an appointment where not reasonable.'
So the #GreenPaper's embrace of personalisation is in fact an extension of conditionality into the Support Group?


No mention of anti-discrimination measures or tackling prejudice. Nothing about personal budgets or personal health budgets #GreenPaper

[tinyclanger2]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 88881.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brits abdicating global standing continues

unconvinced that 37 % voting for misrepresented annihilation is actually democratic

[HindleA]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/we ... doesnt-get" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Here's what Damian Green just doesn't get

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


What are your experiences of the sick pay and work assessment system?

[HindleA]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-com ... ource.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



FBI's Comey opposed naming Russians, citing election timing:

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Just reading as you do some of the stuff around November 5th and was struck by this memorable comment

For reasons of public decency, women convicted of high treason were instead burned at the stake.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

Has this been posted already?

Ed Miliband ‏@Ed_Miliband 6h6 hours ago
Appalled about #Orgreave decision. The lesson from Hillsborough is that this will not stand, the truth will be discovered & justice done.

As ever, Ed says exactly the right thing IMHO.

[tinyclanger2]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 89396.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Have to concur with "british scientists" on this one:

British scientists don't like Richard Dawkins, finds study that didn't even ask questions about Richard Dawkins

[PorFavor]

Has this been posted already?

Ed Miliband ‏@Ed_Miliband 6h6 hours ago
Appalled about #Orgreave decision. The lesson from Hillsborough is that this will not stand, the truth will be discovered & justice done.

As ever, Ed says exactly the right thing IMHO.

No - to your question.

Yes - to your closing sentence.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/ni ... conference" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mark-carney-theresa-may-bank-of-england-tory-conference

Mark Carney has last laugh

[PaulfromYorkshire]

ouch

May, we were told after the conference speech, did not mean to question the Bank’s independence and was merely expressing sympathy with savers. She should learn to take care. Her words provoked a pointless row about central bank independence and she ended up begging Carney to stay. In the event, the governor has agreed the shortest possible extension. He has had the last laugh while May’s handling looks amateurish.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... dApp_Tweet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Creating child poverty for a whole new generation. Take a bow, Theresa May

[PaulfromYorkshire]

May and her government are without doubt a complete shambles. Worse than Cameron I reckon and FFS that's saying something.

But where is the narrative? Corbyn of course is by definition hopeless. Whereas St Theresa of Maidenhead.....

It's a complete mess. I genuinely hoped at least May would restore some order.

[HindleA]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... ld-trumps/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


US population would overtake Earth's in 12 weeks if Donald Trump's latest immigration claim against Hillary Clinton were correct

[HindleA]

Sounds plausible to me.

[AngryAsWell]

Nissan assurances over Brexit cannot be published, says business secretary

The government’s letter to Nissan promising to keep the car industry competitive after Brexit cannot be published because of commercial sensitivity, Greg Clark, the business secretary, has said.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SApp_Other" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... mouldering" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


'Burning injustice' of Orgreave is left smouldering
David Conn

[HindleA]

what is the role of government in bringing about positive change to our attitudes to disabled people and people with health conditions?


Their taking the piss.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Steve Bell on the ruling out of an Orgreave inquiry

[PaulfromYorkshire]

“Some examples of areas of concern of Japanese companies include validity of the single passport system, the free movement of skilled workers between the UK and different parts of Europe and whether the continuation of the current environment of uncertainty will lead the Japanese companies to postpone further investment decisions,”
#NissanGate

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ng-experts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Benefit cap will hit 116,000 of poorest families, say experts

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... ds-turn-60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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