Friday 4th November 2016

Post by **refitman** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 5:57 pm

Some good news:

Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray 23h23 hours ago

So grateful for the brilliant nurses & doctors at Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading. Husband has just been declared clear of cancer.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:02 pm

Excellent

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:07 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ref ... 97741.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It does not seem surprising, therefore, that the British media has chosen to ignore the shipwrecks of last night. 240 people drowned far away from our shores, far away from where we can see them. Those in Calais pose a greater threat to us. They have the potential to cross our borders and seek safety within our land. Those who died last night represent the failure of Europe to protect people in the most desperate situations, in countries ripped apart by militant authorities and chemical weapons.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:11 pm

we're bastards.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:15 pm

Trump supporters are getting desperate. Now they are trying to link Clinton to a satanic cult.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:16 pm

"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

That's why I have to cling on to the belief that, somehow, we'll beat 'em.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:17 pm

yahyah wrote:Trump supporters are getting desperate. Now they are trying to link Clinton to a satanic cult.

Good grief.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:20 pm

yahyah wrote:Trump supporters are getting desperate. Now they are trying to link Clinton to a satanic cult.

The Republican Party?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:27 pm

Also some scam about texting your vote.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:30 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ll-florida" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Woman who gave birth in her car gets $7,400 bill for hospital delivery room

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:33 pm

4
days to go...
...and the number of times Donald Trump’s businesses have filed for bankruptcy

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:34 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... osion-risk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Samsung recalls 2.8m washing machines after reports of explosions
First it was phones, now washing machines – US consumer safety regulator ordered the recall after more than 700 complaints and several injuries

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:37 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... osion-risk

Samsung recalls 2.8m washing machines after reports of explosions
First it was phones, now washing machines – US consumer safety regulator ordered the recall after more than 700 complaints and several injuries

Does anyone know why they still use top loading washing machines in the States ?
I always wonder when you see them in films and tv shows. Or why we use front loaders and not top loaders ?
Seems odd when so many electrical goods are standard across the world now.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:45 pm

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-American- ... ont-loaded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Why are American washing machines usually top-loaded while European are almost exclusively front-loaded

Partially because of where people usually have them ie.in separate room/under work surface in kitchen.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:45 pm

yahyah wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... osion-risk

Samsung recalls 2.8m washing machines after reports of explosions
First it was phones, now washing machines – US consumer safety regulator ordered the recall after more than 700 complaints and several injuries

Does anyone know why they still use top loading washing machines in the States ?
I always wonder when you see them in films and tv shows. Or why we use front loaders and not top loaders ?
Seems odd when so many electrical goods are standard across the world now.

Top loading washing machines use up resources faster. Water, gas, electricity blow right through them all must use up everything faster

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:46 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.quora.com/Why-are-American- ... ont-loaded

Why are American washing machines usually top-loaded while European are almost exclusively front-loaded

Was I right? I can't bear to look.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:50 pm

yahyah wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... osion-risk

Samsung recalls 2.8m washing machines after reports of explosions
First it was phones, now washing machines – US consumer safety regulator ordered the recall after more than 700 complaints and several injuries

Does anyone know why they still use top loading washing machines in the States ?
I always wonder when you see them in films and tv shows. Or why we use front loaders and not top loaders ?
Seems odd when so many electrical goods are standard across the world now.

I don't really know but I'd guess it's more a case of why Europeans switched to front loaders and I think it's because they are smaller, to fit into our smaller houses, and more energy and water efficient to comply with our stricter environmental regulations. I might be wrong, but I think top loaders are more basic machines, cheaper to build, but more expensive to run, doing the job more quickly but without as much sophistication.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 6:51 pm

Oh, I see we've answered that one already.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:00 pm

Twin tub remembrance day.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:01 pm

Electric mangle non of that manual nonsense.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:01 pm

It's actually quite fascinating. Front loaders made some inroads into the US market in the early 2000's but top loaders are currently fighting back with more efficient machines. The price difference is surprisingly substantial, about $200, so when space isn't a problem and energy costs are cheaper than in Europe, the continuing popularity of top loaders makes a lot of sense:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014 ... /17204535/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:03 pm

I hand wash most of mine,not through choice,the machine recoils at the very sight of them.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:04 pm

I thought top-loaders were less hard-wearing on the bearings (poetry thrown in) - thus longer-lasting. Also, you can add washing as you go along. Although I think you can do that now with some front-loaders. Don't know about the energy consumption comparisons.

I used to have a top-loader (years ago) and I was very impressed. It got things very clean (also, I think, on account of the orientation of the drum - ie not sideways on).

Edited for just about everything

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:10 pm

HindleA wrote:Twin tub remembrance day.

Wooden washing tongs (DC).

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:35 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/social-care ... experience" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Social care co-ops draw on first-hand experience
Care recipients and their families should be allowed to ‘lead the care sector’

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:41 pm

A quite extraordinary row has broken out between Vince Cable and the MoD over arm sales to Saudi Arabia. Will be interesting to see if this story develops:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ince-cable" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

MoD seriously misled me on Saudi arms sales, says Vince Cable

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 7:43 pm

refitman wrote:Some good news:
Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray 23h23 hours ago

So grateful for the brilliant nurses & doctors at Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading. Husband has just been declared clear of cancer.

Brilliant indeed. So glad to hear this, thanks for posting

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 8:03 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
refitman wrote:Some good news:
Diane Rayburn ‏@dimayray 23h23 hours ago

So grateful for the brilliant nurses & doctors at Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading. Husband has just been declared clear of cancer.
Brilliant indeed. So glad to hear this, thanks for posting

Yes, very pleased to hear this

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 8:18 pm

Night night, everyone.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 8:41 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night, everyone.

Goodnight, PorFavor

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 8:46 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... P=soc_3156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Martin Rowson on newspapers' reaction to the Brexit high court ruling

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 8:49 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... P=soc_3156

Martin Rowson on newspapers' reaction to the Brexit high court ruling

Whoa.

ChrisDean · Post by **ChrisDean** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 9:40 pm

My first washing machine was a top loader...with an automatic mangle. (Gosh wasn't I posh).

First in were the tea towels, followed by other towels, then the bedsheets. Nappies were always washed on a separate "boil" cycle., as were vests and pants.

Surely "handwash" or "quickwash" are the most used cycles on washing machines these days?

Only towels, flannels or tea towels require a higher water temperature.

Nappies go to land fill, don't they?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 9:49 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 98461.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit ‘spinning out of control’, top bosses warn
Exclusive: Martin Sorrell among UK business leaders to issue urgent alarm call about the devastating cost of new EU uncertainty

Cameron and Farage. Thank you so much for your efforts.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 9:49 pm

ChrisDean wrote:My first washing machine was a top loader...with an automatic mangle. (Gosh wasn't I posh).

First in were the tea towels, followed by other towels, then the bedsheets. Nappies were always washed on a separate "boil" cycle., as were vests and pants.

Surely "handwash" or "quickwash" are the most used cycles on washing machines these days?

Only towels, flannels or tea towels require a higher water temperature.

Nappies go to land fill, don't they?

Towels only in this household, everything else is either quick wash or 30°C. Two young boys mean that the washing machine takes a bit of a pounding.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 9:58 pm

I've developed skin and respiratory sensitivities within the last couple of years. I'll use a higher water temperature setting and gentle detergent for towels and clothing. The dust and dirt accumulation a couple of adults manage to get into in my household is astonishing.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 9:59 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:03 pm

Ouch.

Liz Truss is unfit for office and should resign

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/11/ ... ld-resign/

And so what of our Lord Chancellor? How long did it take her to step out of the shadows and call for calm? To remind us all – populace, media, Parliament and executive – that due process to challenge the judges’ decision is taking place, and that the vicious, misinformed and unwarranted rage on display represents a dangerous and unjustified threat to the foundations of our democracy?

How long did it take her, after the Prime Minister pusillanimously refused to acknowledge that there was a problem, to stand up to the PM and release a statement defending the right of judges to carry out their vital constitutional function without being gratuitously abused and threatened?

Nothing by lunchtime. The calls came louder. Shadow Lord Chancellor Richard Burgon released a statement condemning the behaviour and urging the Lord Chancellor to join him. The Lib Dems did likewise.

And as the clamour grew, as the legal profession watched on expectantly, waiting for the self-styled guardian of the judiciary to step into public view and remind her Parliamentary colleagues, fellow ministers and the media of the centrality of judicial independence to our constitution, and of the inherent danger in misrepresenting and hounding judges in these terms, there was the deafening sound of silence.

The Lord Chancellor said nothing. Not a single word.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:09 pm

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:11 pm

Let's face it they are all at the very least useless.
(not the Clangers I hasten to add)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:14 pm

frightful_oik wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
refitman wrote:Some good news:
Brilliant indeed. So glad to hear this, thanks for posting
Yes, very pleased to hear this

Diane is of course Ohsocynical in case anyone was wondering

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:14 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/n ... 0-years-on" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

War, love and weirdness: A Matter of Life and Death – 70 years on

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:21 pm

feels like the world is hanging on by a thread

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:21 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 97061.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit: UK car industry faces ‘death by a thousand cuts’, industry leader warns
British car exporters could face tariffs of up to 10 per cent if Britain failed to conclude a free trade deal with the rest of the EU

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:28 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/n ... 0-years-on

War, love and weirdness: A Matter of Life and Death – 70 years on

First time I saw this was in the 80s and I switched on some way through and wondered what on earth was going on. Took a few years before I saw it again (probably at the NFT) and then it all made sense.

One of my favourites...and look at the run of P&P films.

The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
A Canterbury Tale
I Know Where I'm Going!
A Matter of Life and Death
Black Narcissus
The Red Shoes
The Small Back Room
Gone to Earth

About as good a run as any director has ever done.

Blimp, Red Shoes and this in my top 10 without question.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:53 pm

I;m not going to bother linking it because it's just nonsense but the Telegraph as a story about the possibility of a general election.

Except that there's not one mention of the Fixed Term Parliament Act.

How is that possible? It's a pretty important consideration!

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 11:44 pm

Ian Fraser
‏@Ian_Fraser
Over on Facebook, Neale from Chipping Norton is calling for a military coup #Article50

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 11:50 pm

#Larry The Cat

I feel it's necessary to point out that I don't have Liz Truss' tongue...
#wheresLizTruss

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 11:57 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Ian Fraser
‏@Ian_Fraser
Over on Facebook, Neale from Chipping Norton is calling for a military coup #Article50

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frank crisp ‏@frankiecrisp1 12h12 hours ago

@Ian_Fraser what a fucking cabbage get him some medication
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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 11:58 pm

Matthew Stockwell
‏@aawguide
Police are becoming increasingly concerned about the whereabouts of this lady, feared abducted by gay fencing club's members #wheresLizTruss

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:lol!: