Sat 5 and Sun 6 November 2016
Posted: Sat 05 Nov, 2016 7:15 am
hell. handbasket.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 99086.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
‘Unforgivable’ David Cameron put Tory interests first with referendum, says Jeremy Paxman
Prime Minister ‘put the country's identity up for grabs, and made no case for staying in Europe’, says former Newsnight presenter
I genuinely feel rather sorry for the man.Stephen Phillips MP: 'I can no longer live with being labelled a Tory'
In a letter to George Clark, chairman of the Sleaford and North Hykeham Conservative Association, Phillips said: “Some will label me a quitter or, no doubt, worse. Those are labels with which I can live. The label Conservative no longer is.” (Guardian)
Not so's you'd notice (apart from the news on the ohsocynical front).yahyah wrote:The Telegraph claim the Cabinet has discussed 'preparing for a snap election'.
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Any good news ?
I don't. They've run rough-shod over parliamentary procedure for the last 6 years and not a peep from him.PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
I genuinely feel rather sorry for the man.Stephen Phillips MP: 'I can no longer live with being labelled a Tory'
In a letter to George Clark, chairman of the Sleaford and North Hykeham Conservative Association, Phillips said: “Some will label me a quitter or, no doubt, worse. Those are labels with which I can live. The label Conservative no longer is.” (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... it-process
The Canadian military has investigated a mysterious pinging sound coming from the sea floor in a remote region of the Arctic, officials have told the BBC.
“I think we have to call this out and say ‘not in my name’.” [some of the media is] “inciting hatred … It needs somebody like Boris Johnson to step up and speak out. He’s our foreign secretary and he knows what the reaction of the rest of the world is as they look at our great country and are horrified. What message are we sending out to the rest of the world? Probably that this nation is in grave danger of losing the plot – and I think we might have done.”
Fair comment, but its maybe understandable that he feels particularly betrayed by what has just happened.refitman wrote:I don't. They've run rough-shod over parliamentary procedure for the last 6 years and not a peep from him.PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
I genuinely feel rather sorry for the man.Stephen Phillips MP: 'I can no longer live with being labelled a Tory'
In a letter to George Clark, chairman of the Sleaford and North Hykeham Conservative Association, Phillips said: “Some will label me a quitter or, no doubt, worse. Those are labels with which I can live. The label Conservative no longer is.” (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... it-process
Too late!JonnyT1234 wrote:I should have forewarned people about that last link. The politician being interviewed is the odious turd Fallon, not giving a 'straightforward answer' to a very straightforward couple of questions.
And he insisted that all UK businesses should be given “assurances” over the impact of Brexit to match those made by the Government to Japanese car-maker Nissan before its announcement of new investment in Sunderland.
“We can’t have secret deals on Brexit, company by company,” Corbyn said.
It's good stuff.JonnyT1234 wrote:Jeremy Corbyn Wants To Hear Theresa May's Brexit Plans 'Without Delay' - The Huffington Post - UK
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Front foot. Attack, attack, attack.
And he insisted that all UK businesses should be given “assurances” over the impact of Brexit to match those made by the Government to Japanese car-maker Nissan before its announcement of new investment in Sunderland.
“We can’t have secret deals on Brexit, company by company,” Corbyn said.
“I suspect the Government opposes democratic scrutiny of its plans because - frankly - there aren’t any plans, beyond the hollow rhetoric of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.”
And I thought you were having a dig at Anatoly for not doing his round upyahyah wrote:Before anyone manufactures a motive for my posting that, I did it because I've just seen in on the Western Mail website when checking Welsh news and that's the headline reporting of it. Labour also held a seat in Wales this week.
From the BBCLabour has urged the government to come out and defend the three judges behind the controversial High Court ruling on the process of leaving the EU.
"The first duty of the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, is to protect the independence of the judiciary, and to be frank her silence on this is embarrassing, and she's letting down the British judiciary and the British legal system. Giving judges a roasting isn't part and parcel of any healthy democracy."
Ms Truss has made no comment yet.
Also on the BBC was an interview with Dominic Grieve. He's not happy,PaulfromYorkshire wrote:From the BBCLabour has urged the government to come out and defend the three judges behind the controversial High Court ruling on the process of leaving the EU.
"The first duty of the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, is to protect the independence of the judiciary, and to be frank her silence on this is embarrassing, and she's letting down the British judiciary and the British legal system. Giving judges a roasting isn't part and parcel of any healthy democracy."
Ms Truss has made no comment yet.
Indeed.PorFavor wrote:Also on the BBC was an interview with Dominic Grieve. He's not happy,PaulfromYorkshire wrote:From the BBCLabour has urged the government to come out and defend the three judges behind the controversial High Court ruling on the process of leaving the EU.
"The first duty of the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, is to protect the independence of the judiciary, and to be frank her silence on this is embarrassing, and she's letting down the British judiciary and the British legal system. Giving judges a roasting isn't part and parcel of any healthy democracy."
Ms Truss has made no comment yet.
And yet people still keep insisting there is no opposition right now.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:From the BBCLabour has urged the government to come out and defend the three judges behind the controversial High Court ruling on the process of leaving the EU.
"The first duty of the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, is to protect the independence of the judiciary, and to be frank her silence on this is embarrassing, and she's letting down the British judiciary and the British legal system. Giving judges a roasting isn't part and parcel of any healthy democracy."
Ms Truss has made no comment yet.
Saying “We say please and thank you here in Great Britain.” in some snotty fashion is so polite and pleasant and friendly isn't it.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-vote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After ordering a beer, the barmaid told her off for failing to acknowledge traditional English pleasantries. She was bluntly told: “We say please and thank you here in Great Britain.” For Janz it was indicative of a changed atmosphere after the referendum. “Maybe I didn’t order in the most friendly way, but things like this never ever happened to me before,” she recalls. “I am more often reminded of the fact that I am a foreigner.”
Indeed. The opposition is being effective at the moment. And reasonably united. Here's Cooper:RogerOThornhill wrote:And yet people still keep insisting there is no opposition right now.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:From the BBCLabour has urged the government to come out and defend the three judges behind the controversial High Court ruling on the process of leaving the EU.
"The first duty of the Lord Chancellor, Liz Truss, is to protect the independence of the judiciary, and to be frank her silence on this is embarrassing, and she's letting down the British judiciary and the British legal system. Giving judges a roasting isn't part and parcel of any healthy democracy."
Ms Truss has made no comment yet.
Lead story right now on the BBC is the one you've just posted from.
What more do people want?
Yes. Exactly.[May] should avoid demonising Parliament or judges or whichever half of the population she disagrees with.
Yes but they're unelected. Like policemen and doctors and teachers and spouses and children and parents and jugglers and TV presenters and fishermen and life boat volunteers and charity workers and care workers and .....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 99356.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bar Council calls on Liz Truss to condemn 'serious and unjustified attacks on the judiciary' after Brexit ruling
'A strong independent judiciary is essential to a functioning democracy and to upholding the rule of law'
Mr Christ (Jesus to his friends) passed away some time ago I'm afraid.SpinningHugo wrote:So what has JC been up to during this week of high drama?
Anyone know?
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed. The opposition is being effective at the moment. And reasonably united. Here's Cooper:RogerOThornhill wrote:And yet people still keep insisting there is no opposition right now.PaulfromYorkshire wrote: From the BBC
Lead story right now on the BBC is the one you've just posted from.
What more do people want?Yes. Exactly.[May] should avoid demonising Parliament or judges or whichever half of the population she disagrees with.
He was giving a speech (rousing some say) at the CLASS think tank this morning.SpinningHugo wrote:So what has JC been up to during this week of high drama?
Anyone know?
According to SkySpinningHugo wrote:So what has JC been up to during this week of high drama?
Anyone know?
In a speech to the Class think-tank, he called for the Government's negotiating terms be transparent and accountable to Parliament.
Mr Corbyn also insisted all UK businesses should be given "assurances" over the impact of Brexit to match those apparently made by the Government to Japanese car-maker Nissan.
He said: "We accept and respect the decision of the British people to leave the European Union. But there must be transparency and accountability to Parliament about the Government's plans."
Or, more accurately 51.9% of 72.2 % being 37.5%. What I would call "less than 40%". But I'm no expert ...PorFavor wrote:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Indeed. The opposition is being effective at the moment. And reasonably united. Here's Cooper:RogerOThornhill wrote: And yet people still keep insisting there is no opposition right now.
Lead story right now on the BBC is the one you've just posted from.
What more do people want?Yes. Exactly.[May] should avoid demonising Parliament or judges or whichever half of the population she disagrees with.
Cleverly pointing out that it is half (or very nearly) of the population.
Or, more accurately 51.9% of 72.2 % being 37.5%. What I would call "less than 40%". But I'm no expert ...[/quote]tinyclanger2 wrote:
Cleverly pointing out that it is half (or very nearly) of the population.
And in actual fact, Labour's vote share held up pretty well in the seat they lost - and dropped quite a bit more in the one they heldyahyah wrote:Before anyone manufactures a motive for my posting that, I did it because I've just seen in on the Western Mail website when checking Welsh news and that's the headline reporting of it. Labour also held a seat in Wales this week.
Yeah, pretty pathetic isn't it?tinyclanger2 wrote:Saying “We say please and thank you here in Great Britain.” in some snotty fashion is so polite and pleasant and friendly isn't it.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-vote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After ordering a beer, the barmaid told her off for failing to acknowledge traditional English pleasantries. She was bluntly told: “We say please and thank you here in Great Britain.” For Janz it was indicative of a changed atmosphere after the referendum. “Maybe I didn’t order in the most friendly way, but things like this never ever happened to me before,” she recalls. “I am more often reminded of the fact that I am a foreigner.”
Proud to be British? My. Arse.
He voted against this. What did Saving Labour do?SpinningHugo wrote:mobile.twitter.com/itvnews/status/794876532799848448
Here he is.
What a pro.