Monday 14th November 2016

[tinyclanger2]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EU ministers to discuss plan to charge Britons to visit Europe after Brexit

But will we be paying to visit Europe - or leave Britain I wonder.

[HindleA]

And the former won't be under UC.

[tinyclanger2]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 16971.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK to leave Europe and then:

1) opt in to Europol

[tinyclanger2]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 16091.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2) a third of British companies will scrap investment plans worth 65.5 billion

[tinyclanger2]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/eu- ... 15936.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

3) Brits pay a fee to be an associate European citizen

[tinyclanger2]

evening.

[tinyclanger2]

(again, fact)

[PorFavor]

I've just read the news that Leon Russell has also died.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Britons with no passport struggling to rent due to immigration checks
Survey shows 43% of private landlords say right to rent scheme has made them less likely to let to those without a UK passport

[citizenJA]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EU ministers to discuss plan to charge Britons to visit Europe after Brexit

But will we be paying to visit Europe - or leave Britain I wonder.

I told everyone last night Tory government going to draft us all into service.
Visions of feudalism

[StephenDolan]

"Breitbart has consistently backed Ukip massively. Steve and Nigel speak and text almost daily, probably to that degree,” Banks said."

PM betraying national interest by rejecting my Trump offer, says Farage

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ays-farage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[55DegreesNorth]

From John Oliver

“Our president-elect has, at various times, said he would bomb civilians, loot oil and waterboard, which isn’t a military strategy so much as the series of words that Donald Rumsfeld mutters so he can stay hard while he’s masturbating,” he said.

Oliver went on to say: “We are faced with the same questions as a guy that woke up the day after a Vegas bachelor party, deep in the desert, naked, tied to a cactus and a dead clown. Namely, how the fuck did we get here and what the fuck do we do now?”

He also discussed a common Republican response since the result: pundits and politicians telling us to give him a chance and see what happens.

“It’s like we’re on a plane and we just found out our pilot is a wombat,” he said. “I don’t like this, I don’t understand how it happened and I’m pretty sure we’re heading for disaster but what the hell, come on, batty, prove me wrong!”

He also believes that this can be a dangerous frame of mind to have. “Optimism is nice if you can swing it but you’ve got to be careful because it can feed into the normalization of Donald Trump, and he is not normal,” he said. “He is abnormal. He is a human ‘what is wrong with this picture?’”

Evening folks,
Thanks for that Adam, HBO have put the whole 30 mins on YouTube, but I had to watch using a VPN, as it's not released for the uk. Very funny and very much to the point. Is there a link that gets straight there?

[citizenJA]

"Breitbart has consistently backed Ukip massively. Steve and Nigel speak and text almost daily, probably to that degree,” Banks said."

PM betraying national interest by rejecting my Trump offer, says Farage

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ays-farage" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"According to those present, Trump did not know the names of many UK politicians but understood the issues around Brexit, including immigration."

[Willow904]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EU ministers to discuss plan to charge Britons to visit Europe after Brexit

But will we be paying to visit Europe - or leave Britain I wonder.

[tinyclanger2]

It's from last week, but I missed it. Sorry if I missed it here also:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/don ... 10066.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We’re getting used to these nights now. There could be a referendum on whether everyone in Britain should have a red hot poker up their arse, and all the polls could show not a single person wanted a red hot poker up their arse, and you know around 2.30 in the morning Dimbleby would be gasping, “What an extraordinary night. Just look at that result from Worcester, 72 per cent in favour of a red hot poker up the arse. What on earth do you make of this, Paddy Ashdown?”

Mark Steel.

Includes:

Who better to solve America’s problems than a deranged sociopath?

[tinyclanger2]

I could see she was as cross as I get when one of my deer escapes from my estate in Oxfordshire.”

[tinyclanger2]

Hilary Benn will announce, “If Labour wishes to reconnect with our core voters, we have to be realistic and grab a woman’s pussy. Of course we must do this in a fair and measured way, in line with Labour’s traditional values, and our grabbing will be fully costed and at no expense to the taxpayer. I have raised this with Jeremy Corbyn, suggesting he starts with Dame Shirley Williams, but sadly have as yet received no reply.”

[tinyclanger2]

Or maybe the way we settle things is wait until the Mexicans have built the wall. Then get the Canadians to build one on the other side, we all chip in to stick a roof over the top and lock the bastards in.

[Hobiejoe]

With regard to earlier discussions about whether Trump will be as bad as we fear, I offer this in the spirit of judging a man by the company he keeps. In this case a senior member of his campaign and transition team, who openly describes himself as a Leninist in his desire to smash the state.

And in case our usual suspect would like to suggest that Bannon has any connection whatsoever with Jeremy Corbyn because "Leninist", I'd just like to say how very much you would be belittled by doing so. Still wouldn't put it past you though, Hugo.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... inist.html

Edited for a comma, and why wouldn't you?

[JonnyT1234]

It isn't just Trump, it's a completely unfettered Republican Tea Party. There are precisely zero checks and balances on the stupid things they can and will now proceed to do. Total control of the Senate, the House and - soon - the Supreme Court. They'll wreak havoc. War. Hate. Denial. It's all coming.

Would Rubio, Cruz or any of the others (with the possible exception of Kasich) have been any better? No. probably worse. But the issue isn't just who is president.

[AngryAsWell]

Watch this teen give a passionate speech on the voting age in Youth Parliament

http://www.thenationalstudent.com/Natio ... ament.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I love watching the Youth Parliment days, they give me hope. If our grown up MP's had his passion we would all be in a better place

[Womble44]

It isn't just Trump, it's a completely unfettered Republican Tea Party. There are precisely zero checks and balances on the stupid things they can and will now proceed to do. Total control of the Senate, the House and - soon - the Supreme Court. They'll wreak havoc. War. Hate. Denial. It's all coming.

Would Rubio, Cruz or any of the others (with the possible exception of Kasich) have been any better? No. probably worse. But the issue isn't just who is president.

Hopefully the Democrat voters that sat this one out won't next time. Trump is not unbeatable by any means.

[NonOxCol]

BBC response to complaints about Marr/Le Pen:

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Might as well save you the time and tell you it's smug, hopeless and consists mainly of a long verbatim quote from their own "journalist".

[NonOxCol]

Meanwhile:

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[NonOxCol]

Another total failure to hold anyone to account, then, along with starstruck tweets from Katz and bollocks like this:

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[citizenJA]

Clinton wins New Hampshire

[citizenJA]

That’s correct – New Hampshire has only just now been called. Clinton picks up 4 additional electoral votes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 05c52f503d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

Michigan ain't been called yet either.

[citizenJA]

...Michigan, with its 16 electoral votes, has yet to be called. Trump appeared to be about 10,000 votes ahead of Clinton in the state
with an unknown number of provisional ballots, absentee ballots and other outstanding ballots to be counted (or recounted).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... 05c52f503d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[citizenJA]

whatever
they're only votes

goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

[JonnyT1234]

Meanwhile:

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Katz also leapt to the defence of Rob Burley and the Marr Show. He's a complete and utter knob (and Newsnight has also been shit since he took over, so it's not like he's got any actual talent to make up for his idiocy).

[JonnyT1234]

PM 'will not hit' one million new homes target - BBC News
https://apple.news/A-51yQym_StCOQm8682x9Tg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

One is that housebuilders deliberately constrain supply to keep prices - and their profits - high.
The government is considering bringing in financial sanctions for housebuilders that do not develop land quickly enough.

Gosh, doesn't that sound familiar. I wonder which party proposed doing something like that. Called Stalinist etc for it.

[JonnyT1234]

Hague prosecutors say U.S. forces may have committed war crimes - Reuters
https://apple.news/AgE36Q-DuSFKs1iRPGDHS4A" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court in The Hague said on Monday there were preliminary grounds to believe U.S. forces committed war crimes in Afghanistan and at secret detention facilities elsewhere in 2003 and 2004.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ss-at-risk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Dilapidated military bases 'putting UK armed forces readiness at risk'
Official report says poor state of bases, now managed by Capita, is harming armed forces’ ability to react to military threats


https://www.nao.org.uk/report/deliverin ... ce-estate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... new-normal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Don't let Donald Trump become the new normal