Monday 28th November 2016
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Monday 28th November 2016
Morning all.
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God I hate getting up at 6 for work
Did we do Watson on Saturday?
http://labourlist.org/2016/11/watson-mo ... n-eu-vote/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I loved Corbyn's comment about how Fidel has outlasted so many US Presidents.
What was the secret oh his being in power so long I wonder?
I love the fake left. So funny.
Did we do Watson on Saturday?
http://labourlist.org/2016/11/watson-mo ... n-eu-vote/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I loved Corbyn's comment about how Fidel has outlasted so many US Presidents.
What was the secret oh his being in power so long I wonder?
I love the fake left. So funny.
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Morning
Watson I think we did do.
On the other hand Caroline Lucas I think not
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-reckless" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note that Lucas doesn't say she's against Brexit per se, she says she's against it because the government hasn't provided a plan so it would be reckless to vote for it.
This actually sounds quite close to the Labour position to me. Here's how she sees the difference in position
Watson I think we did do.
On the other hand Caroline Lucas I think not
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-reckless" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note that Lucas doesn't say she's against Brexit per se, she says she's against it because the government hasn't provided a plan so it would be reckless to vote for it.
This actually sounds quite close to the Labour position to me. Here's how she sees the difference in position
Though I’m proud to have fought as hard as I could to stop Britain from leaving the EU, I’m not one of the MPs who immediately pledged to vote against article 50 after the high court’s ruling on the issue earlier this month. In the heat of the moment it would have been easy to offer an immediate kneejerk refusal to trigger article 50 in any circumstance. Similarly rash is the response of those, like the Labour leadership, who have gone too far other way – making an early promise to support the government in beginning the Brexit process. By doing so they’ve given away any bargaining power they had – and given the government’s agenda a real boost.
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Yes. The Greens are the only ones talking sense. (The Lib Dems are too soft on art 50, and as for Labour it is compromised by Lexiters like Corbyn, or pragmatists like Watson who are scared of Ukip).PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning
Watson I think we did do.
On the other hand Caroline Lucas I think not
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-reckless" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note that Lucas doesn't say she's against Brexit per se, she says she's against it because the government hasn't provided a plan so it would be reckless to vote for it.
This actually sounds quite close to the Labour position to me. Here's how she sees the difference in positionThough I’m proud to have fought as hard as I could to stop Britain from leaving the EU, I’m not one of the MPs who immediately pledged to vote against article 50 after the high court’s ruling on the issue earlier this month. In the heat of the moment it would have been easy to offer an immediate kneejerk refusal to trigger article 50 in any circumstance. Similarly rash is the response of those, like the Labour leadership, who have gone too far other way – making an early promise to support the government in beginning the Brexit process. By doing so they’ve given away any bargaining power they had – and given the government’s agenda a real boost.
Greens have my support, and I am not a natural fit for them.
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God I hate repeats.SpinningHugo wrote:God I hate getting up at 6 for work
Did we do Watson on Saturday?
http://labourlist.org/2016/11/watson-mo ... n-eu-vote/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I loved Corbyn's comment about how Fidel has outlasted so many US Presidents.
What was the secret oh his being in power so long I wonder?
I love the fake left. So funny.
When you post as many posts attacking the Tories as you do attacking Labour, I'll believe you're not a troll.
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Re: Monday 28th November 2016
Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... r-ministerPension age may be about to rise again, says former minister
Steve Webb says government considering faster timetable for higher state pension age of 70, affecting millions of workers
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I'll never forgive Fidel Castro for giving us Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine.SpinningHugo wrote:God I hate getting up at 6 for work
Did we do Watson on Saturday?
http://labourlist.org/2016/11/watson-mo ... n-eu-vote/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I loved Corbyn's comment about how Fidel has outlasted so many US Presidents.
What was the secret oh his being in power so long I wonder?
I love the fake left. So funny.
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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... r-ministerPension age may be about to rise again, says former minister
Steve Webb says government considering faster timetable for higher state pension age of 70, affecting millions of workers
Amazing (to me) that French retirement age is 62. Fillon proposing to change.
Fillon v Le Pen.
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I hear Tom Lehrer's decided to retire again.SpinningHugo wrote: I love the fake left. So funny.
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He couldn't, possibly, be this dim?
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Someone like Jarvis might be thought to be after the votes of a Bitterite like me, but he clearly isn't
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Awful
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Morning all.
Government services seem to be creaking under the strain, so much that they're making the news. March is a long way off, that's a lot of time to have the mother of all distractions sucking up resources.
Government services seem to be creaking under the strain, so much that they're making the news. March is a long way off, that's a lot of time to have the mother of all distractions sucking up resources.
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Good-morning, everyone.
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I see that Paul Nuttall is being tipped to be UKIP's next leader when the result is announced later. When reminding myself from his wiki biog these two bits stand out:
A perfect choice for UKIP leader!
andFollowing his studies and before entering politics, Nuttall lived and worked in Barcelona before returning to Merseyside to lecture in history at Hugh Baird College and then at Liverpool Hope University.
So not only does he want to deprive British people from doing what he himself did, he's also a lazy sod who didn't fulfill his role as an MEP but still claims the cash for doing nothing even after the Brexit vote.Nuttall was found to place 736th out of 756 MEPs in terms of attendance in the European Parliament,[5] Nuttall defended his record, stating "I have no interest sitting all day in Brussels committees enacting job-killing, democracy-destroying legislation inspired by the EU".[6]
A perfect choice for UKIP leader!
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Nonetheless, the Labour "core vote" is going to decamp to UKIP en masse once he is leader because he has a scouse accent. Didn't you know?
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Technically he's not a scouser, Bootle is part of SeftonAnatolyKasparov wrote:Nonetheless, the Labour "core vote" is going to decamp to UKIP en masse once he is leader because he has a scouse accent. Didn't you know?
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Stuart Lee on 'Paul Nuttall of the UKIPS'
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As you know, the accent stretches out rather more widely than the city itselfStephenDolan wrote:Technically he's not a scouser, Bootle is part of SeftonAnatolyKasparov wrote:Nonetheless, the Labour "core vote" is going to decamp to UKIP en masse once he is leader because he has a scouse accent. Didn't you know?
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See Andy "I'm a Northerner" Burnham.AnatolyKasparov wrote:As you know, the accent stretches out rather more widely than the city itselfStephenDolan wrote:Technically he's not a scouser, Bootle is part of SeftonAnatolyKasparov wrote:Nonetheless, the Labour "core vote" is going to decamp to UKIP en masse once he is leader because he has a scouse accent. Didn't you know?
Prison suicides. Another way in which we see the basic civilising things getting worse.
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Not really a surprise. Especially as Farage referred to "he" when talking earlier about the new leader before correcting himself.Britain Elects @britainelects 22s23 seconds ago
Paul Nuttall MEP has been elected leader of UKIP.
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Though some of us still hoped Rees-Evans would win for the comedy value.
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Ukip leadership election -
Not many voted, then?Some3[sic] 32,757 ballot papers were sent out, and 15,405 were returned.
Here are the results.
Paul Nuttall: 9,622 - 62.6%
Suzanne Evans: 2,973 - 19.3%
John Rees-Evans: 2,775 - 18.1% (Politics Live, Guardian)
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That is a pretty humiliating result for Evans actually.
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PorFavor wrote:Ukip leadership election -
Not many voted, then?Some3[sic] 32,757 ballot papers were sent out, and 15,405 were returned.
Here are the results.
Paul Nuttall: 9,622 - 62.6%
Suzanne Evans: 2,973 - 19.3%
John Rees-Evans: 2,775 - 18.1% (Politics Live, Guardian)
Contrast Labour of course. I can't see Ukips being much of a force from here on. The Tories will hoover them up.
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PorFavor wrote:Ukip leadership election -
Not many voted, then?Some3[sic] 32,757 ballot papers were sent out, and 15,405 were returned.
Here are the results.
Paul Nuttall: 9,622 - 62.6%
Suzanne Evans: 2,973 - 19.3%
John Rees-Evans: 2,775 - 18.1% (Politics Live, Guardian)
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I did actually point out long before the referendum that it didn't matter which way the vote went, UKIP would be finished.SpinningHugo wrote: I can't see Ukips being much of a force from here on.
When the only policy people know about is Brexit and that's done by 2020 (probably) then they have no reason to exist apart from picking up the populist nationalist vote.
Their big chance for Commons seats was last time round.
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Not sure. Their name now is certainly irrelevant. But that's the main thing that makes them yesterday's news.RogerOThornhill wrote:I did actually point out long before the referendum that it didn't matter which way the vote went, UKIP would be finished.SpinningHugo wrote: I can't see Ukips being much of a force from here on.
When the only policy people know about is Brexit and that's done by 2020 (probably) then they have no reason to exist apart from picking up the populist nationalist vote.
Their big chance for Commons seats was last time round.
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Abbott putting Jarvis in his place on wato.
It was good to hear the vox pops of Bootle dismissing Ukip. Poor Martha, she sounded gutted.
It was good to hear the vox pops of Bootle dismissing Ukip. Poor Martha, she sounded gutted.
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Re: Monday 28th November 2016
2h2 hours ago
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Working class people are not all the same, they don't all like and think the same thing.STOP PATRONISING THEM AND LOOKING DOWN ON THEM!!!!!!
Indeed. It's freaking ridiculous that to do so is perfectly acceptable. Contrast with the Thornberry photo outrage.
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Working class people are not all the same, they don't all like and think the same thing.STOP PATRONISING THEM AND LOOKING DOWN ON THEM!!!!!!
Indeed. It's freaking ridiculous that to do so is perfectly acceptable. Contrast with the Thornberry photo outrage.
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Fidel Castro Put Gay Men in Labor Camps. His Niece Mariela Is Leading Cuba’s LGBTQ Revolution
"It helps, too, that toward the end of his life Fidel Castro expressed regret about the labor camps, calling them “a great injustice” and accepting blame for their terrible conditions. The socialist who once thought of homosexuality as a creation of the bourgeoisie experienced something of a late-in-life conversion."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016 ... _cuba.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"It helps, too, that toward the end of his life Fidel Castro expressed regret about the labor camps, calling them “a great injustice” and accepting blame for their terrible conditions. The socialist who once thought of homosexuality as a creation of the bourgeoisie experienced something of a late-in-life conversion."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016 ... _cuba.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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oh the irony
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -on-to-nhs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The NHS and social care are at risk of being downgraded as a priority by a government distracted by Brexit unless there is a major public health crisis, the former chief executive of the NHS has warned.
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https://infacts.org/single-market-legal ... ys-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The latest legal challenge to Theresa May’s Brexit plans threatens to put a cat among her pigeons. It is based on the argument that leaving the EU does not automatically mean that we quit the single market because we are a member of that by virtue of a completely separate treaty – the Agreement on the European Economic Area. The EEA treaty creates a single market encompassing EU states and three non-EU ones – Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein.
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In answer to SH's question.Labour has announced that Jeremy Corbyn will not attend Fidel Castro’s funeral in Cuba tomorrow. Even though Corbyn was an admirer of Castro, the party will be represented by Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary. Sir Alan Duncan, the minister for the Americas, will represent the government.
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Samuel Miller @Hephaestus7
DWP: soon to be renamed Department for Work and No Pensions.
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Willow904 wrote:Samuel Miller @Hephaestus7
DWP: soon to be renamed Department for Work and No Pensions.
I take it that's not a joke . . .
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Aw, he's no fun - the frothing right have been wetting themselves all day at the thought of Corbyn attending.Willow904 wrote:In answer to SH's question.Labour has announced that Jeremy Corbyn will not attend Fidel Castro’s funeral in Cuba tomorrow. Even though Corbyn was an admirer of Castro, the party will be represented by Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary. Sir Alan Duncan, the minister for the Americas, will represent the government.
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Well it wouldn't have been a joke for David Bowie or Alan Rickman if the retirement age had been 70 for them, as they both died aged 69. Of course there are always people who don't make it to retirement. The real point is that regardless of how long people are living, 70 is still pretty old. Fewer and fewer people will be physically able to work until they get their pension, pushing more and more people out of the politically sensitive bracket of deserving pensioners, into the political punching bag category of sick and disabled scroungers.PorFavor wrote:Willow904 wrote:Samuel Miller @Hephaestus7
DWP: soon to be renamed Department for Work and No Pensions.
I take it that's not a joke . . .
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Labour’s heartlands will turn to Ukip, and we will not fail them
Douglas Carswell
"we will lead an anti-oligarch insurgency"
Labour’s heartlands will turn to Ukip, and we will not fail them
Douglas Carswell
"we will lead an anti-oligarch insurgency"
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Well, quite. Suddenly, "the elderly" so beloved of the press (when it suits their storyline), will cease to exist. People will be spring chickens one day and dead from old age the next.Willow904 wrote:Well it wouldn't have been a joke for David Bowie or Alan Rickman if the retirement age had been 70 for them, as they both died aged 69. Of course there are always people who don't make it to retirement. The real point is that regardless of how long people are living, 70 is still pretty old. Fewer and fewer people will be physically able to work until they get their pension, pushing more and more people out of the politically sensitive bracket of deserving pensioners, into the political punching bag category of sick and disabled scroungers.PorFavor wrote:Willow904 wrote:
I take it that's not a joke . . .
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I think the idea of the frothers merely wetting themselves over the prospect would be to seriously over-estimate their capacity for self-control.RogerOThornhill wrote:Aw, he's no fun - the frothing right have been wetting themselves all day at the thought of Corbyn attending.Willow904 wrote:In answer to SH's question.Labour has announced that Jeremy Corbyn will not attend Fidel Castro’s funeral in Cuba tomorrow. Even though Corbyn was an admirer of Castro, the party will be represented by Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary. Sir Alan Duncan, the minister for the Americas, will represent the government.
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It’s time to challenge the Brexit Pollyannas
Nick Cohen
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/ti ... ollyannas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nick Cohen
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Sigh, if only there were even a remote prospect of a change of government
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Rigged election: 87,000 people in Michigan supposedly voted, but not for President
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I can't even pretend to understand the USA voting system, so I'm posting this because I know some of you do and will be interested in it. Is this as significant as it made out to be? or is it just bad eggs?
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ri ... ident/262/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can't even pretend to understand the USA voting system, so I'm posting this because I know some of you do and will be interested in it. Is this as significant as it made out to be? or is it just bad eggs?
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In the USA the ballot papers are incredibly long, covering the presidential election down to the election of the dogs' home warden (I over-simplify).AngryAsWell wrote:Rigged election: 87,000 people in Michigan supposedly voted, but not for President
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ri ... ident/262/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can't even pretend to understand the USA voting system, so I'm posting this because I know some of you do and will be interested in it. Is this as significant as it made out to be? or is it just bad eggs?
Seems as though all these voters turned out to vote just for the dogs' home warden, or anything inbetween, skipping the boring bit relating to the next US President. So why did they bother to turn out?
But, having cast a vote (any vote) they are counted as having voted. Which, of course, they had.
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Quiet here, innit?
Is everybody still reeling from so many of the punditocracy HOT TAKES on Nuttall's election??
Is everybody still reeling from so many of the punditocracy HOT TAKES on Nuttall's election??
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AngryAsWell wrote:It’s time to challenge the Brexit Pollyannas
Nick Cohen
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/ti ... ollyannas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The conservative political and media classes are in a nationalist hysteria that shuttles from denial to rage and back again. They treat serious questions about our future as a kind of treason. Wonder where we are going and how we are going to make a living in the world, and you become an opponent of democracy and an enemy of the people.
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I fear it's to do with gravity and critical mass.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Quiet here, innit?
Is everybody still reeling from so many of the punditocracy HOT TAKES on Nuttall's election??
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Today, btw, there was a local byelection - for Angus council in Scotland. You do get them occasionally on other days than Thursday but a Monday election is very rare indeed.
But you know that old saying about buses? Because there is another one next Monday - and its in Angus again
But you know that old saying about buses? Because there is another one next Monday - and its in Angus again
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Emily Thornberry on Marr (sorry if we've had it already).https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She said the priority in negotiating a Brexit deal should be the economy, but appeared to also support greater controls on immigration, saying: “Now, do I think that too many people at the moment come into this country? I think that yes, I think they do.”
I suspect the issue more the overall carrying capacity of the planet.
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involuntarily reaches for forelock/capThere is still a strong tendency for us to defer to the confident and well-spoken, no matter how ridiculous their views
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