Sat 10th and Sun 11th December 2016
Posted: Sat 10 Dec, 2016 6:22 am
Morning fledglings.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 66301.htmlJeremy Corbyn considering radical plan to ban petrol car sales
The bold proposal would mean only zero- or low-carbon vehicles being sold after a set cut-off date, dramatically reducing air pollution and potentially saving thousands of lives.
The move would form part of a broader and revolutionary package of measures to transform Britain into a low-carbon nation.
Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Encouraging.Dear members
This is to let you know I am cancelling our December meeting as it is too near to Christmas and at the last meeting only 4 members attended out of a 200 membership list. (my emphasis)
Am with him on this - but only if the electrical power used for electrical cars is produced from non-fossil sources etc etchttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 66301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jeremy Corbyn considering radical plan to ban petrol car sales
Electric cars are only low carbon when the electricity they are run on comes from renewables rather than burning gas, surely? I think I would prefer to push for cleaner energy infrastructure and supporting the electric car industry so it can become more affordable. The above is a rather authoritarian approach.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Quite surprised that 35% can'd decide between May and Corbyn. At least there's some hope....
You must be a bit disappointed that Jez is outflanking your new party on low-carbon cars though!
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... t-dignitasMan urges MPs to back assisted dying before ending his life at Dignitas
Andrew Barclay, 65, who died on Thursday, called for change in law before taking lethal dose of drugs in apartment near Zurich (Guardian)
Avoiding authoritarian approaches has got us where we are now.Willow904 wrote:Electric cars are only low carbon when the electricity they are run on comes from renewables rather than burning gas, surely? I think I would prefer to push for cleaner energy infrastructure and supporting the electric car industry so it can become more affordable. The above is a rather authoritarian approach.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Quite surprised that 35% can'd decide between May and Corbyn. At least there's some hope....
You must be a bit disappointed that Jez is outflanking your new party on low-carbon cars though!
Thats impressive, £70,000 targetBonnylad wrote:https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/brexit-for-the-100/
(see bonnylad above)http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 66761.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit: Lawyers seek new legal challenge to Article 50 in Irish courts
Campaign is also trying to find out if leaving the European Economic Area would require an entirely separate negotiation
Lawyers are trying to raise £70,000 in public donations to fund a new court case over Article 50 and the Brexit process.
Good morning (just)tinyclanger2 wrote:Morning fledglings.
https://www.quora.com/If-electric-cars- ... -emissionsWillow904 wrote:Electric cars are only low carbon when the electricity they are run on comes from renewables rather than burning gas, surely? I think I would prefer to push for cleaner energy infrastructure and supporting the electric car industry so it can become more affordable. The above is a rather authoritarian approach.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Quite surprised that 35% can'd decide between May and Corbyn. At least there's some hope....
You must be a bit disappointed that Jez is outflanking your new party on low-carbon cars though!
No green is unhappy with that. we want to save civilisation, if labour the tories or the devil himself is prepared to help us they are welcome, Ill evven take our tesco value troll's vote.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Quite surprised that 35% can'd decide between May and Corbyn. At least there's some hope....
You must be a bit disappointed that Jez is outflanking your new party on low-carbon cars though!
As I said yesterday, if I were an MP, I would want to have definitive answers to these questions before considering whether and when to vote for article 50. No doubt the government has consulted lawyers who have expressed opinions on the matter, but I'm assuming opposition MPs wouldn't be privy to this information and besides, representatives of the EU may have other opinions. Given article 50 hasn't been tested, I think a ruling on the basics from a court that all parties adhere to would be beneficial. Taking a leap into the dark without even taking the trouble to ask questions about very basic points, is not responsible political representation in my view. Knowing, for instance, whether we would automatically remain in the EEA or would have to reapply, is very basic information that every single citizen in this country has a right to know and in reality should have been told before the referendum was held.Bonnylad wrote:https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/brexit-for-the-100/
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ia-protestPeter Tatchell disrupts Jeremy Corbyn speech with Syria protest
Campaigner shouts over Labour leader, demanding he do more to condemn actions of Russia in conflict
(Guardian)
Bit OTT, isn't it? What does he want Corbyn to do? There are no Western journalists in Aleppo, so we have no accurate information as to what is happening, so condemnation of Russian bombing would be based on supposition rather than facts confirmed by objective observers, making it difficult to make anything but general statements in support of a peaceful settlement. Certainly the UK government could do more to help refugees and support peace talks, but I'm not sure what practical steps the opposition could take to improve the situation.PorFavor wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ia-protestPeter Tatchell disrupts Jeremy Corbyn speech with Syria protest
Campaigner shouts over Labour leader, demanding he do more to condemn actions of Russia in conflict
(Guardian)
I reckon Eisteddfodd, would have been good name,yahyah wrote:Meanwhile, as the country and the world goes to hell in a convoy of turbo-charged handcarts, we in Wales are being consulted on the issue of renaming the Welsh Assembly.
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From what I could gather from the snippet of the interview I heard, Peter Tatchell believes that Jeremy Corbyn is not as vociferous in his condemnation of Russia and its allies as he has been, in the past, in regard to other states (eg USA re Vietnam). He also feels that not enough has been done in the Commons.Willow904 wrote:Bit OTT, isn't it? What does he want Corbyn to do? There are no Western journalists in Aleppo, so we have no accurate information as to what is happening, so condemnation of Russian bombing would be based on supposition rather than facts confirmed by objective observers, making it difficult to make anything but general statements in support of a peaceful settlement. Certainly the UK government could do more to help refugees and support peace talks, but I'm not sure what practical steps the opposition could take to improve the situation.PorFavor wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ia-protestPeter Tatchell disrupts Jeremy Corbyn speech with Syria protest
Campaigner shouts over Labour leader, demanding he do more to condemn actions of Russia in conflict
(Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... iatriciansAcutely ill children waiting nine hours for beds in intensive care
Some paediatric units now at 150% capacity, warns doctors’ body (Guardian)
Tories going up 3 points immediately after Richmond does feel a bit funny, tbh.yahyah wrote:25% ? Yikes. Hopefully an outlier.
Thanks. I wondered if something was amiss.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Tories going up 3 points immediately after Richmond does feel a bit funny, tbh.yahyah wrote:25% ? Yikes. Hopefully an outlier.
Lovely. Thanks for the link.AngryAsWell wrote:Valerio De Cesaris @ValerioDeC 36s36 seconds ago
This year in the famous Sand Crib in #Salerno, Italy, Mary and Joseph are #migrants, on a boat, where Jesus will born
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The irony is that post truth politics, that the Leave campaign used so relentlessly, is partly inspired by the received wisdom that Blair is the ultimate lying politician.I accept the mandate of the referendum. And if it can be ‘made to work’ and the Government comes through with a solution which protects the British economy and our influence over things Europe does which affect us, then even though I will still disagree with leaving, frankly I will have to lump it. But many approached this referendum on the basis not of ideology but because they believed it was more gain than pain to Leave. They thought, because they were told, there would be more money for the NHS. Immigration would be curtailed. We would ‘take back control’ and would do it without financial downside.
Suppose the gain/pain ratio shifts. Suppose it becomes clear that there isn’t more money for the NHS but actually less; that more jobs will go than come; that most of the immigration will stay and so will the loss of growth and the drop in the value of the currency. In other words, supposing when people see the actual proposition of Leave, where facts have replaced claims, they think this is not a good idea.
All I am arguing is that in those circumstances they should have the right to say: what you told us has turned out to be wrong and so we have changed our mind.
Though none of this detracts from the fact that Labour's polling is currently appalling, and that is something that needs to improve markedly in 2017.yahyah wrote:Thanks. I wondered if something was amiss.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Tories going up 3 points immediately after Richmond does feel a bit funny, tbh.yahyah wrote:25% ? Yikes. Hopefully an outlier.
It does make me rethink my feelings about Labour at the moment. If I was really detached from the party I'd not give a stuff how they were polling. In 2020 they'll need every vote they can get.
Aren't you writing a book? How is that helping our species survive? How was you moaning about Ed Miliband's Labour helping?Temulkar wrote:No green is unhappy with that. we want to save civilisation, if labour the tories or the devil himself is prepared to help us they are welcome, Ill evven take our tesco value troll's vote.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Not great.SpinningHugo wrote:https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/12/09/vo ... lowest-le/
Quite surprised that 35% can'd decide between May and Corbyn. At least there's some hope....
You must be a bit disappointed that Jez is outflanking your new party on low-carbon cars though!
4 degrees is locked in, 2/3 of all life on earth is going through local extinction events, we are ffacing the greatest extinction event in global history, more species than the dinosaurs are dying faster than ever. Normal extinction events play out over millenia, the anthropecene extinction event is happening in three decades.
We really are fucked, but carry on complaining about labour and brexit, its really helping our species survive.
Quite a double take to see that Sir Mike isn't Wilshaw in this case.AngryAsWell wrote:Exclusive: Ministers warned they have 'no powers' to deal with repeat of Trojan Horse scandal
Will Hazell
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