Wednesday, 21st December 2016

[HindleA]

Amplified vilness of course,many people battle to maintain their employment and fight for the necessary support in the face of both employer attempts to get rid of them and/or against medical advice,this has been propagandised as being incentivised to becoming ill.

[tinyclanger2]

I have a feeling that SD was making what's known as a small joke.

[HindleA]

TC2

I thank you (in Arthur Askey voice)

[AngryAsWell]

I like that - although we mainly lean left - different people bring different ideas here. I don't see any arguments, just people expressing their personal opinion. Today we have a by-election announced and - for me - it seem logical to discuss potential outcomes from all points of view and to explain, if you feel the need, why that's your opinion.

[yahyah]

Government higher than expected again with income tax receipts slowing.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... eipts-slow" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

edited to add.....Government borrowing higher than expected.

[HindleA]

Yahyah how high is the Government expected to be?

Remember to laugh

[yahyah]

I have a feeling that SD was making what's known as a small joke.

What if your feeling was incorrect ?

[yahyah]

Yahyah how high is the Government expected to be?

Remember to laugh

Well, this lot, about .1 of a millimetre off the ground.

[was just checking to see who was awake ]

[yahyah]

I'm laughing anyway HA. It's the only thing to do at the moment.

[HindleA]

You don't know I was wearing a pink nightie with my left foot in a bucket of water and speaking in Marlon Brando's voice when I posted.

[RogerOThornhill]

Pure gold.

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[yahyah]

Get some clothes on, you'll catch a chill.

[HindleA]

(ref to Roger's post)



I am(supposedly) working in a cold store,I am warming up.(to yah yah)

[yahyah]

Pure gold.

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''Your penis is still offensive''

[StephenDolan]

"At the Xmas party again? Blimey, how many a year do they have?"
Not sure, might be an odd children's Christmas party held by them, and maybe an OAP one, but in this case I meant "again" as a reference to last years party that caused a stink.

LOL I know aaw, just me being picky.

After reading back I noticed Tubby had said "Corbyn and Burnham's", not "Corbyn's and Burnham's" so apologies for my misunderstanding.

[citizenJA]

Government higher than expected again with income tax receipts slowing.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... eipts-slow" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

edited to add.....Government borrowing higher than expected.

"Official figures showed that income tax receipts increased by only 1.1%, after several years of consistent 3%-plus growth..."

VAT and corporation tax receipts were up, according to the article.
Income-related tax down that much is regular people not being paid enough or at all.

[RogerOThornhill]

Income-related tax down that much is regular people not being paid enough or at all.

An interesting exercise which I may do after Christmas if I'm bored is to compare forecast income tax receipts and employment from previous budgets to what actually happened. Sort of thing I used to do every day...

[gilsey]

https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.c ... e-workers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don’t call people stupid for voting for Brexit, cried the Daily Mail. The Daily Express came up with the term Project Sneer to condemn anyone who suggested that working-class voters might have been duped when they voted for Brexit. They are “not thick, not racist, just poor,” wailed the Spectator.

This didn’t last long though. The tabloids have decided working-class people are stupid after all. So stupid, it seems, that they can be led passively into taking industrial action by union leaders hell-bent on destroying the country. Yes, folks, the union barons are back again and they are planning to wreck Christmas with a wave of strikes.

Let’s look at what happened in the ballots for industrial action in the run up to Christmas.*

% Turnout % ‘Yes’ vote ‘Yes’ vote as % of all entitled to vote
Virgin pilots 80 88 70
Southern Rail drivers 77 87 67
Weetabix 70 90 63
BA cabin crew 60 79 47
Post Office 50 83 42
All were backed by large majorities of those who voted and most by a majority of those eligible to vote. All were above the 40 percent threshold in the yet-to-be-implemented Trade Union Act passed earlier this year.

Look at those percentages, every one higher than the EUref leave vote. Interesting note underneath.

Simon Jones
wonders whether the EU referendum got people back into the habit of voting to change things:

We’re currently seeing a wave of industrial disputes – railways, airline staff, Post Office workers, airport baggage handlers, Weetabix factory workers. While some suggest this is some wave of 1970s style union militancy, the fact is that the majority of these disputes are over ‘old-fashioned’ pay and conditions matters, and they are overwhelming supported by affected staff in secret ballots. Perhaps the Brexit vote has convinced ‘ordinary workers’ that they can change things by voting?

[gilsey]

Income-related tax down that much is regular people not being paid enough or at all.

Partly that, and partly erosion of the tax base by increasing the personal allowance, I'd say.

[PorFavor]

Stephen...you do know that Christmas parties are held annually and the word again means once more, in addition, etc ?

Just checking. Not sure why her comment merited such a picky response.

I thought it was quite amusing, actually. But I'm easily amused . . .

[HindleA]

It's Private Eye Christmas Crossword time,half the battle is not getting cramp half way through trying to put the letters in the miniscule squares.

[AngryAsWell]

Peter Timmins and 4 others liked
Joe C. Evans ‏@joeevanswrites 10h10 hours ago
What a time to be alive. The Sec of State for Brexit just used the European Court of Justice to bring legal action against the PM.

Hughesy ‏@Hughesy53 9h9 hours ago
@johnestevens Davis achieves the seemingly impossible by simultaneously pissing inside & outside the #brexit tent...

EU's highest court delivers blow to UK snooper's charter
Indiscriminate collection of emails is illegal, court rules in response to challenge originally brought by David Davis

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/de ... rs-charter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[PorFavor]

Nigel Farage’s attack on Jo Cox’s widower is a new low. Enough
Owen Jones (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ntolerance

[tinyclanger2]

Just a few months in and I don't know how many more pictures of TM I can stomach.
The Independent has particularly bad form in this regard.

[RogerOThornhill]

Jon Pigeon ‏@PigeonJon 3h3 hours ago

My review of 2016.

Someone Died.
Someone Died.
Someone Died.
Someone Died.
Stupid Vote.
Someone Died.
Stupid Vote.
Someone Died.
Christmas.

[RogerOThornhill]

Wonder when the free market zealots and 'public sector reform' people will realise the effect of outsourcing? Time after time this happens and still they think it's the answer to everything. Utter madness.

[tinyclanger2]

Off tomorrow so have a good one.

[tinyclanger2]

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Merry Xmas PF

[tinyclanger2]

(it'll make you seethe)

[tinyclanger2]

(the punctuation, not christmas)

[Hobiejoe]

(the punctuation, not christmas)

Don't worry, I'm in training to become a multi-tasking 'kin seether. Any tips would be gratefully received.

[AngryAsWell]

Off tomorrow so have a good one.

Have a good day!

PS If you take me on as an apprentice Seether, can you claim a grant from the government?

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA