Wednesday 25th January 2017
Posted: Wed 25 Jan, 2017 7:11 am
Morning all.
What constitutes "hand-to-hand combat" in parliament,Labour has threatened to wage "hand-to-hand combat" with the Government on Brexit after the Supreme Court ordered that Parliament must have the final say on triggering withdrawal from the European Union.
Sensible quotes provided there.55DegreesNorth wrote:Morning folks,
North-East MPs reveal how they intend to vote on triggering A50.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor ... r-12500549
So...grammars are lobbying for more money because, ironically enough, they don't take as many FSM pupils as comps; and now this.Middle and low attainers perform worse under a selective school system, rather than a comprehensive system, according to a new report which also details the extremes of the tutoring industry that has grown up around grammar schools.
The new report says that fewer middle and low attainers in the selective country of Buckinghamshire achieved good GCSEs, compared with non-selective Hampshire.
The analysis from King’s College London reveals that the 2015 average capped GCSE score of middle attainers was 298 in Hampshire, compared with 293 in Buckinghamshire. And the average score of low attainers was 188 in Hampshire, compared with 167 in Buckinghamshire.
What's this about, AK?AnatolyKasparov wrote:I see that "fake news" is now a thing in the Stoke Central by-election. Labour Leave are a genuinely disgraceful organisation.
I have to say I'm not averse to a bit of fighting talk.tinybgoat wrote:http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk ... 96254.htmlWhat constitutes "hand-to-hand combat" in parliament,Labour has threatened to wage "hand-to-hand combat" with the Government on Brexit after the Supreme Court ordered that Parliament must have the final say on triggering withdrawal from the European Union.
Two falls, a submission of a knockout?
I thought they had lines on the floor, to prevent this type of thing.
(Also, on a similar vein, has Corbyn denied planning an assassination yet?)
I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty certain once you have mould, 'lifestyle' changes aren't going to make much difference. Not hanging wet clothes inside and opening windows can help reduce the likelihood of getting mould, but it's not going to get rid of it, it has to be professionally dealt with. In my younger days I often lived with wet clothes hanging and little heating and I never got mould so I find it unlikely it would be a sole cause. If a bathroom has no opening window, doesn't it have to have an extractor fan by law, for instance?HindleA wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/di ... ar_twitter
Disabled woman told mould flat problem is because of her 'lifestyle' and she should hang her clothes outside
Indeed,given the popularity of Trump in the UK.Willow904 wrote:Theresa May just pointed out that Corbyn will never have a "special relationship" with Donald Trump. Oddly enough I happen to think this is one of Corbyn's stronger points.
Yes, not expected surely?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow. May concedes White Paper on Brexit.
Then "some" are a bit over-excitable and need to calm down. A white paper is just sensible parliamentary procedure and has no bearing on what kind of Brexit we have. I'm not surprised she jumped on this before she was pushed as this was the one which would have got sufficient Tory rebel backing to embarrass her. After all, she has already given her ultimate aims away in her recent speech, so it's not a big concession.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, not expected surely?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow. May concedes White Paper on Brexit.
Indeed, some were pushing the line only yesterday that MPs voting for that would amount to "rejecting A50" and trigger a snap election.
Looking forward to Starmer etc making Davis look even more of a fool over this.Willow904 wrote:Then "some" are a bit over-excitable and need to calm down. A white paper is just sensible parliamentary procedure and has no bearing on what kind of Brexit we have. I'm not surprised she jumped on this before she was pushed as this was the one which would have got sufficient Tory rebel backing to embarrass her. After all, she has already given her ultimate aims away in her recent speech, so it's not a big concession.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, not expected surely?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow. May concedes White Paper on Brexit.
Indeed, some were pushing the line only yesterday that MPs voting for that would amount to "rejecting A50" and trigger a snap election.
She made David Davis look a bit silly though, he was still asserting a white paper had to be avoided as it would give our negotiating stance away to the other side just this morning
Edited to change David David to David Davis.....stupid predictive text......
I was surprised. Soubry asked about it last week and not much of reaction. Looked to me like the line was "we didn't shoot any supreme Court judges, what more do you want?"AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, not expected surely?Tubby Isaacs wrote:Wow. May concedes White Paper on Brexit.
Indeed, some were pushing the line only yesterday that MPs voting for that would amount to "rejecting A50" and trigger a snap election.
Tristram Hunt had the right idea about this bunch of Tories - stop their funding.Mike Crowhurst, who used to teach history in a school in Birmingham, has been appointed as head of education at Number 10.
He is set to move from his role of director of education at free-schools charity the New Schools Network (NSN). Nick Timothy, Ms May’s joint chief of staff, also came from NSN as a director.
Mr Crowhurst taught history at Kingsbury School and Sports College, a comprehensive school in Birmingham, as part of the Teach First programme, before joining the charity in 2011.
It was understood that Ms May would not have a dedicated adviser on education policy after founding director of NSN, Rachel Wolf, stepped down from the adviser role last summer.
But Mr Crowhurst, who used to work for Conservative MP Mike Penning, has now been given the role of head of education in Downing Street.
andThe future of a troubled academy trust that runs nine schools in north-west England could be in jeopardy if it cannot defer the payment of million of pounds it owes the government.
The latest financial accounts for the Bright Futures Educational Trust (BFET) warn that there are “material uncertainties” about its future and also reveal that the trust was a victim of a £16,000 fraud.
The accounts say that failure to agree a new action plan with the government's Education Funding Agency (EFA) would “cast doubt on the ability to proceed on a going concern basis”.
So where did he come from?John Stephens, who took over as BFET chief executive from Dame Dana Ross-Wawrzynski on 1 January, said working with the EFA “to reach a satisfactory conclusion on all of the points raised” was his priority.
I doubt that's a coincidence...academy trust in trouble, DfE gets in a panic, insists on a change at the top, and sticks its own man in there.Bright Futures Educational Trust (BFET) is delighted to announce the appointment of its new Chief Executive Officer, Dr John Stephens CBE. John joins the Trust from his role as a senior civil servant in the Department for Education, leading on teaching schools and system leaders in the National College for Teaching and Leadership
That won't be too hard tbfStephenDolan wrote:Looking forward to Starmer etc making Davis look even more of a fool over this.Willow904 wrote:Then "some" are a bit over-excitable and need to calm down. A white paper is just sensible parliamentary procedure and has no bearing on what kind of Brexit we have. I'm not surprised she jumped on this before she was pushed as this was the one which would have got sufficient Tory rebel backing to embarrass her. After all, she has already given her ultimate aims away in her recent speech, so it's not a big concession.AnatolyKasparov wrote: Yes, not expected surely?
Indeed, some were pushing the line only yesterday that MPs voting for that would amount to "rejecting A50" and trigger a snap election.
She made David Davis look a bit silly though, he was still asserting a white paper had to be avoided as it would give our negotiating stance away to the other side just this morning
Edited to change David David to David Davis.....stupid predictive text......
Private landlords letting sub-standard homes trouser £2.3billion in housing benefit annually, according to an analysis by Labour
Perhaps they cant be arsed with snide passive aggressive bullshit poisoning their discourse. I often wonder why I bother reading here anymore.yahyah wrote:No flybyattacksvisits from another place yet ? Don't forget to bring cakes this time, particularly the 'back up' man who flies in to help his failing comrade. Ta. Only polite to bring gifts.
Good point well madeHindleA wrote:Because of the excellent overnight tennis coverage?
It's more like smoking - a dirty habit I haven't quite kicked yetHindleA wrote:Because of the excellent overnight tennis coverage?
Kuenssberg. Brave woman that she is, staying impervious to the leftie BBC indoctrination program.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Strange how none of these repeated concessions "really matter" - if so, why do they invariably have to be literally dragged out of HMG??
(who wrote that btw, though I can hazard a few guesses)
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Tracey Magee
@Tracey_utv
Oh dear Jeremy Corbyn gets it badly wrong. Expresses condolences to police officer who "lost his life" in Belfast
I was wondering the same about whether we automatically leave the single market. It looks like membership of it is incompatible with wanting to negotiate trade deals outside the EU, so leaving it was always likely to happen, but the actual process seems a mystery.Willow904 wrote:I have to say I'm not averse to a bit of fighting talk.tinybgoat wrote:http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk ... 96254.htmlWhat constitutes "hand-to-hand combat" in parliament,Labour has threatened to wage "hand-to-hand combat" with the Government on Brexit after the Supreme Court ordered that Parliament must have the final say on triggering withdrawal from the European Union.
Two falls, a submission of a knockout?
I thought they had lines on the floor, to prevent this type of thing.
(Also, on a similar vein, has Corbyn denied planning an assassination yet?)
I'm not sure how parliament can have a final say, or "meaningful vote" as Keir Starmer put it, on the exit deal, though. If the Tories pull us out of the single market and customs union during exit talks and a parliament vote rejects that deal, the government have said they will take us out anyway. Even if article 50 is revocable, the government has to decide to revoke it. What if they don't? And article 50 might not be revocable. Why was May's timetable for invoking it so meekly accepted before these questions have been answered? Will Labour amend the article 50 bill so it can only be invoked once it's been established it's revocable? I highly doubt it.
Do we automatically leave the single market on invoking article 50 or do we negotiate leaving it (if we so desire) during the 2 year period?
That's another question I'd like an answer to.
Hard to know if Labour have a plan or are just waffle without knowing these things. Voting against article 50 may be the only opportunity those wishing to stay in the single market get to express their displeasure at May's hard Brexit.
...and that is that it depends on the age profile as to whether it is a real problem or not.Martin George @geomr 25m25 minutes ago
10m people in the UK do not have the basic digital skills required by modern jobs - @halfon4harlowMP
I did earlier. I was very surprised though others here weren't.StephenDolan wrote:No mention of May and the white paper, Tubby?
Yes, I know. I really had to stop listening at that point. And so early on in the proceedings, too . . .Tubby Isaacs wrote:Dear O Lord.
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Tracey Magee
@Tracey_utv
Oh dear Jeremy Corbyn gets it badly wrong. Expresses condolences to police officer who "lost his life" in Belfast
I know it might seem a bit pedantic, but there is surely a difference between actively negotiating our way out of the single market alongside negotiating exit terms from the EU, and being automatically flung out of the EEA no matter what happens in exit negotiations and always facing having to join anew. The reason it's important is that the first, to my mind, is a choice that is open to the government in charge of exit negotiations, whereas if the latter, May isn't really in the position to offer to take us out of the single market as such. There will have to be a GE before she can complete that process. Though I guess the nature of the exit deal could create conditions favourable to one type of Brexit over another.tinybgoat wrote:I was wondering the same about whether we automatically leave the single market. It looks like membership of it is incompatible with wanting to negotiate trade deals outside the EU, so leaving it was always likely to happen, but the actual process seems a mystery.Willow904 wrote:I have to say I'm not averse to a bit of fighting talk.tinybgoat wrote:http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk ... 96254.html What constitutes "hand-to-hand combat" in parliament,
Two falls, a submission of a knockout?
I thought they had lines on the floor, to prevent this type of thing.
(Also, on a similar vein, has Corbyn denied planning an assassination yet?)
I'm not sure how parliament can have a final say, or "meaningful vote" as Keir Starmer put it, on the exit deal, though. If the Tories pull us out of the single market and customs union during exit talks and a parliament vote rejects that deal, the government have said they will take us out anyway. Even if article 50 is revocable, the government has to decide to revoke it. What if they don't? And article 50 might not be revocable. Why was May's timetable for invoking it so meekly accepted before these questions have been answered? Will Labour amend the article 50 bill so it can only be invoked once it's been established it's revocable? I highly doubt it.
Do we automatically leave the single market on invoking article 50 or do we negotiate leaving it (if we so desire) during the 2 year period?
That's another question I'd like an answer to.
Hard to know if Labour have a plan or are just waffle without knowing these things. Voting against article 50 may be the only opportunity those wishing to stay in the single market get to express their displeasure at May's hard Brexit.
Presumably it's not like changing a tv/phone package, we keep the bits we want & change some others - but that's kind of how it was sold in brexit. (I.e. would sir/madam like to consider the Norwegian options)
Or is it it automatically a renegotiation from scratch, ie; degree of access to single market has to be negotiated along with everything else.?
"Will the Prime Minister tell President Trump that she is not prepared to lower our food and safety standards, or to open our health systems to privatisation, or does she believe this is a price worth paying for a UK-US trade deal."