Saturday 28th & Sunday 29th January 2017

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:02 pm

"collective narcissism" down to 973
https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q= ... 5&as_vis=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would have made that a starting point.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:04 pm

yahyah wrote:@JA Did you see the pic of Corbyn, his wife, and Ruth Smeeth eating oat cakes in a cafe ?
Not strictly baked goods, but nearly.

No, I'm way over my baked goods photographic intake for the month as it is.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:05 pm

Trump petition now over 200,000.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:11 pm

I didn't see it,but it was definately offside.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:21 pm

There was a map shown (on Peston?) which illustrated that the countries affected by Donald Trump's travel ban do not include (despite their "eligibility" in other respects) any in which he has business interests. I'm surprised that this hasn't be made more of.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:24 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... escue-plan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steelworkers to vote on Port Talbot rescue plan

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:26 pm

Administration officials weren’t immediately sure which countries’ citizens would be barred from entering the United States. The Department of Homeland Security was left making a legal analysis on the order after Trump signed it. A Border Patrol agent, confronted with arriving refugees, referred questions only to the President himself, according to court filings. (Guardian live blog - my emphasis)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:32 pm

According to CNN Trump’s travel ban on people from seven mainly Muslim countries maybe just the start.

It has just published a report which suggests the administration is considering asking all foreign visitors “to disclose all websites and social media sites they visit, and to share the contacts in their cell phones.”
(Guardian live blog)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:39 pm

well done America.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:39 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ul-age-bbc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In praise of David Coleman, Grandstand and a slower, more peaceful age
Rob Smyth

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:47 pm

He is mentally unfit for office, isn't he? Or am I just being over-sensitive?

Edited to add -

I am, of course, referring to Donald Trump - not the late David Coleman. HindleA might have caused a bit of confusion. (I feel it's important to spread the blame in an even-handed fashion . . .)

Edited to add an "e"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 2:57 pm

""And the line-up for the final of the women's 400 metres hurdles includes three Russians, two East Germans, a Pole, a Swede and a Frenchman."

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:07 pm

HindleA wrote:""And the line-up for the final of the women's 400 metres hurdles includes three Russians, two East Germans, a Pole, a Swede and a Frenchman."

The US presumably acting as a proxy for East Germany?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:11 pm

Coleman's revenge:"One nil"

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:13 pm

Was Theresa May the first foreign leader to visit the US because nobody else wanted to be? I'm starting to think that that might be the case.

Edited to add -

But she certainly had a calming effect . . .

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:16 pm

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:16 pm

(and a half)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:28 pm

FIASCO²

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:37 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:(and a half)

Not 'alf!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:40 pm

The Press Association has just filed this:

Prime minister Theresa May has ordered foreign secretary Boris Johnson and home secretary Amber Rudd to telephone their American counterparts to make representations about the US travel ban, Downing Street has said. (Guardian live blog)

Leave it, Boris! 'E's not worf it!

Edited - to insert a space

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:47 pm

Guardian political editor Anushka Asthana has a bit more on the statement from number 10.

She says Boris Johnson will speak to two of Trump’s most senior advisers Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner and make it clear the UK wants an exemption from this travel ban for its citizens.
(Guardian live blog)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:50 pm

Exemption

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 3:52 pm

dictatorships & imperialists
not fair, free or democratic

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:00 pm

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/w ... itics.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

United Kingdoms unofficial leader of the opposition.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:02 pm

PorFavor wrote:

Guardian political editor Anushka Asthana has a bit more on the statement from number 10.

She says Boris Johnson will speak to two of Trump’s most senior advisers Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner and make it clear the UK wants an exemption from this travel ban for its citizens.
(Guardian live blog)

An exemption?

That's disgraceful. If it's good enough for other nations then it's good enough for the British and if it's not good enough then Theresa May should ruddy well say so and tell Trump where to go.

Our PM is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:04 pm

Willow904 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:

Guardian political editor Anushka Asthana has a bit more on the statement from number 10.

She says Boris Johnson will speak to two of Trump’s most senior advisers Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner and make it clear the UK wants an exemption from this travel ban for its citizens.
(Guardian live blog)
An exemption?

That's disgraceful. If it's good enough for other nations then it's good enough for the British and if it's not good enough then Theresa May should ruddy well say so and tell Trump where to go.

Our PM is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

Agreed.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:10 pm

Does anyone here know the latest petition tally, please?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:18 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 51756.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
4 hours ago it was 250,000

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:18 pm

368,601 signatures

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:18 pm

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/th ... s-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Theresa May has been tangoed, well that's one way of looking at it, another is that she has so few options she has to to grovel to a despot.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:19 pm

369,504 signatures

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:19 pm

370,261 signatures

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:20 pm

james at the link above wrote:I'm pretty sure leftists are more outraged over this ban than they were about recent terrorist attacks. Whose side are they on? Just goes to say, THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

Part of me hates social media.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:20 pm

Hundreds of signatures added every minute at this point

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:22 pm

What a "to do" list that is.

a) grovel to despot

anything else?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:25 pm

~~375,277 signatures~~
376,180 signatures

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:25 pm

Brexit

Tax cuts

Destroy the NHS

(Not necessarily in that order)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:26 pm

thousands of signatures added within a couple of minutes

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:26 pm

Willow904 wrote:Brexit

Tax cuts

Destroy the NHS

(Not necessarily in that order)

hydraulic fracturing

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:28 pm

a) grovel to despot
b) sell NHS to despot's mates
c) sell country to despot's mates
d) buy shoes

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:31 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
james at the link above wrote:I'm pretty sure leftists are more outraged over this ban than they were about recent terrorist attacks. Whose side are they on? Just goes to say, THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
Part of me hates social media.

Me also, it's basically soul destroying bile spewed up repeatedly, I avoid, today I spent an hour taking part in the RSPB bird count thingy, 20+ Siskins at one time and 12 Long Tailed Tits, oh and 9 Goldfinches, I feed birds on one of my walks, around 8 robins fed at one time in between squabbling on Friday, in these days of constant negatativity little things keep me going 'cos the big things do my swede in.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:37 pm

Very wise, limiting exposure to ugliness

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:43 pm

There's only one thing worse than going through hell.
Going through hell without love, solidarity

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:46 pm

Hey! The days are getting longer. Anyone for tea?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:48 pm

The petition is going apace. I'd like to think that it would attract similar support even if the Quing's finer feelings hadn't been thrown into the mix.

Edited to add -

Thanks, citizenJA, for the link.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:51 pm

At least 140 people have been taken to hospital after incidents at JD Sports’s controversial warehouse in Rochdale in the last four years.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... e-rochdale" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:53 pm

Travel ban will no longer apply to green-card holders (Guardian live blog)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 4:57 pm

PorFavor wrote:
Travel ban will no longer apply to green-card holders (Guardian live blog)

It's a power-brokers' strategy not a meaningful concession

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 5:07 pm

Why a travel ban at all?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 29 Jan, 2017 5:08 pm

Brr, brr brr brr
Busy li-ine