Tuesday 7th February 2017
Posted: Tue 07 Feb, 2017 7:10 am
Morning all.
Little sign of any amendments getting passed so far.However, the House of Commons opposed a Labour amendment that would have forced May to make regular reports back to parliament every two months by 333 to 284 – a majority of 49 for the government.
Another Labour amendment calling for the leaders of the devolved administrations to be consulted and have their views taken into account before any final Brexit deal also failed by 333 votes to 276 – an even bigger government majority of 57.
Trade, not poverty, could become focus of £1.3bn UK aid pot, watchdog warns
Some, probably the one about non-UK EU citizens who reside here being allowed to stay, will pass before the House of Lords, but will be defeated in the Commons.Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -tells-mps
Little sign of any amendments getting passed so far.However, the House of Commons opposed a Labour amendment that would have forced May to make regular reports back to parliament every two months by 333 to 284 – a majority of 49 for the government.
Another Labour amendment calling for the leaders of the devolved administrations to be consulted and have their views taken into account before any final Brexit deal also failed by 333 votes to 276 – an even bigger government majority of 57.
Voting for this bill could well be the end of any parliamentary involvement in the Brexit process at the rate we're going.
It seems to be NC99 about the final vote where there could be some traction in the Commons. Later today I think.Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -tells-mps
Little sign of any amendments getting passed so far.However, the House of Commons opposed a Labour amendment that would have forced May to make regular reports back to parliament every two months by 333 to 284 – a majority of 49 for the government.
Another Labour amendment calling for the leaders of the devolved administrations to be consulted and have their views taken into account before any final Brexit deal also failed by 333 votes to 276 – an even bigger government majority of 57.
Voting for this bill could well be the end of any parliamentary involvement in the Brexit process at the rate we're going.
I'm clutching at straws here, but If all the amendments are rejected, then there will effectively be a list of ways in which parliamentary scrutiny/involvement has been blocked & some confirmations that 'promises' such as extra money for NHS won't materialise. This could be useful for highlighting some of the shortcomings of brexit.Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -tells-mps
Little sign of any amendments getting passed so far.However, the House of Commons opposed a Labour amendment that would have forced May to make regular reports back to parliament every two months by 333 to 284 – a majority of 49 for the government.
Another Labour amendment calling for the leaders of the devolved administrations to be consulted and have their views taken into account before any final Brexit deal also failed by 333 votes to 276 – an even bigger government majority of 57.
Voting for this bill could well be the end of any parliamentary involvement in the Brexit process at the rate we're going.
Oh, the irony of sponsors not willing to take on failing schools when the policy was designed to get sponsors to take on failing schools...For Easingwold faces an uncertain future. Last November an academy trust started taking over, but confirmation of the takeover has now been put back until late March at the earliest, leaving parents worried.
Easingwold is one of 60 “orphan” schools that, at least six months after a failed inspection, still have no certainty over who will be running them. In 12 cases, two years have passed since a failed inspection, without a sponsor being found.
The National Union of Teachers describes these cases as symptomatic of “chaotic” changes to education that are letting pupils down.
Yes. I didn't like to mention it . . .Lost Soul wrote:Febraury?
With our economy in such poor shape, leaving the EU will be especially painful. It's really quite staggering how much damage a Tory majority government has managed to do in such a short length of time.IFS warns of steep cuts and tax rises to fill £40bn black hole
Other misspellings are available:Lost Soul wrote:Febraury?
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https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... icai-warnsTrade, not poverty, could become focus of £1.3bn UK aid pot, watchdog warns
Independent Commission for Aid Impact says new prosperity fund is ‘not sufficiently transparent’, as critics warn that it fails to prioritise reducing poverty (Guardian)
It certainly is. Every time there is one, I age another yearPorFavor wrote:Yes. I didn't like to mention it . . .Lost Soul wrote:Febraury?
Febraury is (contrary to popular belief) the cruellest month.
£40bn? Easy peasy for the chancellor, he filled a defence £25bn blackhole with the stroke of a pen.Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ck-hole-uk
With our economy in such poor shape, leaving the EU will be especially painful. It's really quite staggering how much damage a Tory majority government has managed to do in such a short length of time.IFS warns of steep cuts and tax rises to fill £40bn black hole
Indeed!PorFavor wrote:@pk1
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I think there's quite a bit of creative thinking going on that enables people to convince themselves that what they want, which is tax cuts etc for themselves, is actually in the best interests of the country. Strong, effective leaders give people what they need, not what they want. Giving people Brexit, despite no proven, factual evidence that it is beneficial, is a failure of democracy, IMO. The art of the politician is to persuade with effective arguments that what is in the national interest is also in the individual's interest. We, as a nation, have become monumentally crap at that and a survival of the fittest free for all has resulted. There are great examples of pooling of resources for the benefit of everyone at the local level, but at the national level, devolution is being used to reverse the pooling of national resources. In the long run this will be to the detriment of everyone, not just the poorer areas left to go it alone. Our withdrawal from the EU is part of the same pattern. The pooling of resources across the EU has been beneficial to all its members, on the whole. The idea of everyone putting in for tea and biscuits used to be so common it the was an obvious thing to do. Now we've turned into a nation of biscuit hoarders, jealously labelling our jammy dodgers for our use only. No more communal cake for the us. It's just so horribly mean spirited and depressing.StephenDolan wrote:£40bn? Easy peasy for the chancellor, he filled a defence £25bn blackhole with the stroke of a pen.Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ck-hole-uk
With our economy in such poor shape, leaving the EU will be especially painful. It's really quite staggering how much damage a Tory majority government has managed to do in such a short length of time.IFS warns of steep cuts and tax rises to fill £40bn black hole
It's not staggering to me. What *is* staggering to me is the lack of linking cause and effect by Joe public.
As you know, I voted for Creasy (as you did IIRC)SpinningHugo wrote:"I'm sorry. Are you really saying that Cooper and Kendall were the best candidates in 2015?"
Yes, of course they were.Not perfect by any means, but far better than the male alternatives.
Creasy, Flint and Eagle were also all better than Watson, but were also heavily defeated
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 64861.htmlLawyer behind petition calling for cancelling Donald Trump's UK state visit could be disciplined by CPS
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Labour MPs will be ordered to vote for the article 50 bill at third reading tomorrow, PoliticsHome’s Kevin Schofield reports.
Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor)
BREAKING: Shadow Cabinet agree a 3-line whip for Labour MPs to vote for Article 50 tomorrow night. Over to you Clive and Diane ...
February 7, 2017 (Politics Live, Guardian)
Thank youPorFavor wrote:o 11:25
Labour MPs will be ordered to vote for the article 50 bill at third reading tomorrow, PoliticsHome’s Kevin Schofield reports.
Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor)
BREAKING: Shadow Cabinet agree a 3-line whip for Labour MPs to vote for Article 50 tomorrow night. Over to you Clive and Diane ...
February 7, 2017 (Politics Live, Guardian)
??????People are more likely to think Brexit will be good for Britain than bad for Britain, even though they are also more likely to think it will be bad for the economy than good for the economy. (Politics Live, Guardian)
RobertSnozers wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oft-brexit
If you think Corbyn’s wrong on Labour’s Brexit policy, voters say otherwise
Anthony Wells
Is that their position though? It's not clear to me.For now, however, Labour’s current position of accepting Brexit but pushing for single-market membership afterwards appears to be the one likely to win the widest (if not the most enthusiastic) support.
Does no one worry about losing their jobs, anymore?!!PorFavor wrote:??????People are more likely to think Brexit will be good for Britain than bad for Britain, even though they are also more likely to think it will be bad for the economy than good for the economy. (Politics Live, Guardian)
I think other polls have shown that the economy is not leavers first priority, if it was they probably wouldn't be leavers.PorFavor wrote:??????People are more likely to think Brexit will be good for Britain than bad for Britain, even though they are also more likely to think it will be bad for the economy than good for the economy. (Politics Live, Guardian)
gilsey wrote:I think other polls have shown that the economy is not leavers first priority, if it was they probably wouldn't be leavers.PorFavor wrote:??????People are more likely to think Brexit will be good for Britain than bad for Britain, even though they are also more likely to think it will be bad for the economy than good for the economy. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Britain is not only it's economy.
The perceived and real changes of the make-up of the population.PorFavor wrote:gilsey wrote:I think other polls have shown that the economy is not leavers first priority, if it was they probably wouldn't be leavers.PorFavor wrote: ??????
Britain is not only it's economy.
What in Britain (apart from the weather) is not ultimately dependent upon the economy?
StephenDolan wrote:This is written by SH and I claim my £5.
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Sure there may be some racism here, but also the period of greater EU integration has coincided with a significant increase in inequality in the UK. So, many people won't really feel the EU has helped them even if they can acknowledge in the abstract that the economy has benefited.PorFavor wrote:gilsey wrote:I think other polls have shown that the economy is not leavers first priority, if it was they probably wouldn't be leavers.PorFavor wrote: ??????
Britain is not only it's economy.
What in Britain (apart from the weather) is not ultimately dependent upon the economy?
Are there?AnatolyKasparov wrote:There is some talk that despite a 3-line whip, the leadership may make this an "exceptional case" that means front benchers can vote against/abstain without losing their jobs.
Apparently there are precedents for this?
They might want to take a walk around their neighbourhood, town, city and see how many EU flag stickers there are on all manner of infrastructure.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Sure there may be some racism here, but also the period of greater EU integration has coincided with a significant increase in inequality in the UK. So, many people won't really feel the EU has helped them even if they can acknowledge in the abstract that the economy has benefited.PorFavor wrote:gilsey wrote: I think other polls have shown that the economy is not leavers first priority, if it was they probably wouldn't be leavers.
Britain is not only it's economy.
What in Britain (apart from the weather) is not ultimately dependent upon the economy?